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hugo29 · 22-11-2013 10:32AM

RobinBanks wrote: »

This is a heifer I bought as a weanling. I was going to sell her before she calves because according to ICBF she is only 1 star for maternal and terminal. She is making a nice bag for a 1 star heifer. She is incalf to a blonde

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nice heifer, if ya are selling her PM me, might not be to far from you:D

Farrell · 22-11-2013 10:34AM

Would you of kept her a few years ago (when you hadn't access to the ICBF)?
Looking at my Herd's profile, Stars are really generally associated with cows with AI or Dairy history, which I find fustrating
as I've some "poor" cows on Paper, but get good prices from their calves.

J DEERE · 22-11-2013 10:49AM

I think the ICBF star ratings are being read into too much at the present time. They are good for selecting AI bulls.

Looks to be absolutely nothing wrong with that heifer. It will take 10 years for it to start reaping benefits and even at that it will only do so for lads who are consistently using AI or 5 star bulls and are consistent in record keeping

towzer2010 · 22-11-2013 10:52AM

Nothing wrong with that heifer Robin. If she was mine I wouldn't be selling her because of icbf figures. Those icbf figures annoy me anyway. My highest rated cow is only average and one of the lowest rated cows produces the best weanling every year at 365 days interval and has plenty of milk. Her calf was 350kgs at 8 months and went for €910 last week. What more do you need to have a 5* cow????

onyerbikepat · 22-11-2013 10:54AM

J DEERE wrote: »

I think the ICBF star ratings are being read into too much at the present time. They are good for selecting AI bulls.

Looks to be absolutely nothing wrong with that heifer. It will take 10 years for it to start reaping benefits and even at that it will only do so for lads who are consistently using AI or 5 star bulls and are consistent in record keeping

Exactly, and even with AI bulls I would prefer to wait untill the reliability figures are well over 70%. No one knows your cows like you do yerself.

vanderbadger · 22-11-2013 10:55AM

RobinBanks wrote: »

This is a heifer I bought as a weanling. I was going to sell her before she calves because according to ICBF she is only 1 star for maternal and terminal. She is making a nice bag for a 1 star heifer. She is incalf to a blonde

she is a good deal milkier than alot of my cows

redzerologhlen · 22-11-2013 11:04AM

I was at a breeding demo in Ennis a few years ago and one of the speakers (Doreen Corridan) I think it was said if you buy something by paper you will have to sell it by post in relation to icbf figures

A good backup to have if the animal looks the part.

hugo29 · 22-11-2013 11:13AM

redzerologhlen wrote: »

I was at a breeding demo in Ennis a few years ago and one of the speakers (Doreen Corridan) I think it was said if you buy something by paper you will have to sell it by post in relation to icbf figures A good backup to have if the animal looks the part.

id have to agree with you on that one red, you cant beat the eye

RobinBanks · 22-11-2013 11:21AM

towzer2010 wrote: »

Nothing wrong with that heifer Robin. If she was mine I wouldn't be selling her because of icbf figures. Those icbf figures annoy me anyway. My highest rated cow is only average and one of the lowest rated cows produces the best weanling every year at 365 days interval and has plenty of milk. Her calf was 350kgs at 8 months and went for €910 last week. What more do you need to have a 5* cow????

I agree Towser. She is a good heifer and I had to laugh to myself when I looked at her rating on ICBF. I would only use these ratings for selecting a bull. Also those ICBF figures can be seriously manipulated. I could turn a 1 star heifer into a 5 star fairly quickly by doctoring a few sire details when registering a calf.

As it happens i wont get a chance to sell her. she calved an hour ago. LSX heifer calf. Maybe the ICBF crowd will give this one a chance!!

Kovu · 22-11-2013 01:34PM

I was about to say Robin that she looked ready to pop with the nice bit of spring she had up:D
Throw a pic up of the calf when you get a chance. She's a nice looking heifer, actually all of them are!

RobinBanks · 22-11-2013 02:00PM

Kovu Murr wrote: »

I was about to say Robin that she looked ready to pop with the nice bit of spring she had up:D
Throw a pic up of the calf when you get a chance. She's a nice looking heifer, actually all of them are!

I will take a pic tomorrow when there is a bit of light and upload it. The other 2 heifers are a couple of weeks away from calving yet but I post pics of them closer to the time as well.

moy83 · 22-11-2013 02:06PM

RobinBanks wrote: »

I will take a pic tomorrow when there is a bit of light and upload it. The other 2 heifers are a couple of weeks away from calving yet but I post pics of them closer to the time as well.

Is the blue one for calving ? She is a chubby devil !

hugo29 · 22-11-2013 02:09PM

moy83 wrote: »

Is the blue one for calving ? She is a chubby devil !

was just going to say, keep an eye on her

moy83 · 22-11-2013 02:13PM

hugo29 wrote: »

was just going to say, keep an eye on her

I sold three nice blue heifers to a lad a couple of months ago and met him there this morning . He has them all in calf to a ch stock bull :O
I told him when he was buying them that an aa would be the right thing to start them off with . I said it again this morn and he said sure the blues will calf anything and anyhow im after buying a calving gate !

hugo29 · 22-11-2013 02:18PM

moy83 wrote: »

I sold three nice blue heifers to a lad a couple of months ago and met him there this morning . He has them all in calf to a ch stock bull :O
I told him when he was buying them that an aa would be the right thing to start them off with . I said it again this morn and he said sure the blues will calf anything and anyhow im after buying a calving gate !

:D:D after buying a calving gate

you should have said "well if thats the case you will be fine" the gate will pull them for you

moy83 · 22-11-2013 02:22PM

hugo29 wrote: »

:D:D after buying a calving gate

you should have said "well if thats the case you will be fine" the gate will pull them for you

I more or less did say that , I just know when they come to calving and trouble arrives that I'm going to get the call telling me all about it . Hopefully the vet will have put them straight first about using a ch on them

RobinBanks · 22-11-2013 02:36PM

moy83 wrote: »

Is the blue one for calving ? She is a chubby devil !

She is incalf to Queenshead altea (S593). I am worried about her even though she isn't overly muscular, but she is fat. We had a bad experience with a blue heifer years ago that a neighbours sim bull broke into. Calf had to come out the side and ended up losing both the heifer and the calf.

What I do here is restrict feed to the cows / heifers when they come within a month of calving. They get small bit of silage in the morn and then oats and soya. For the rest of the day all they have is straw. I have being able to get the excess weight off the cows prior to calving in previous years but this blue looks to be still a bit fat and is due to calf in the second week of Dec.

moy83 · 22-11-2013 02:42PM

RobinBanks wrote: »

She is incalf to Queenshead altea (S593). I am worried about her even though she isn't overly muscular, but she is fat. We had a bad experience with a blue heifer years ago that a neighbours sim bull broke into. Calf had to come out the side and ended up losing both the heifer and the calf.

What I do here is restrict feed to the cows / heifers when they come within a month of calving. They get small bit of silage in the morn and then oats and soya. For the rest of the day all they have is straw. I have being able to get the excess weight off the cows prior to calving in previous years but this blue looks to be still a bit fat and is due to calf in the second week of Dec.

What breed is queenshead ? Im not great with names , I often see names and codes here and im clueless !
The diet is the job before calving alright .
Looking at her there I would be thinking she would have been a dinger on the hook young , but I'm no expert either

reilig · 22-11-2013 02:43PM

RobinBanks wrote: »

She is incalf to Queenshead altea (S593). I am worried about her even though she isn't overly muscular, but she is fat. We had a bad experience with a blue heifer years ago that a neighbours sim bull broke into. Calf had to come out the side and ended up losing both the heifer and the calf.

What I do here is restrict feed to the cows / heifers when they come within a month of calving. They get small bit of silage in the morn and then oats and soya. For the rest of the day all they have is straw. I have being able to get the excess weight off the cows prior to calving in previous years but this blue looks to be still a bit fat and is due to calf in the second week of Dec.

Queenshead Altea is easy calved - I had 2 of them last year. They came out the size of a sheepdog but grew very fast and well. If you restrict for the few weeks before calving, you won't have a bother!

RobinBanks · 22-11-2013 03:06PM

reilig wrote: »

Queenshead Altea is easy calved - I had 2 of them last year. They came out the size of a sheepdog but grew very fast and well. If you restrict for the few weeks before calving, you won't have a bother!

Thats good to hear Relig. What breed cows / heifers were yours from?

reilig · 22-11-2013 03:07PM

RobinBanks wrote: »

Thats good to hear Relig. What breed cows / heifers were yours from?

2 pedigree limousins. 1 was a heifer.

RobinBanks · 22-11-2013 03:10PM

moy83 wrote: »

What breed is queenshead ? Im not great with names , I often see names and codes here and im clueless !
The diet is the job before calving alright .
Looking at her there I would be thinking she would have been a dinger on the hook young , but I'm no expert either

He's a LM moy.

tanko · 22-11-2013 03:29PM

RobinBanks wrote: »

He's a LM moy.

Is he 50 yoyos a straw?

Conmaicne Mara · 22-11-2013 04:49PM

Fun with matches. Only a few individual Furze bushes on the go at once. Lots of green stuff and grass not fully dry so plenty of schmoke, all under control.

Conmaicne Mara · 22-11-2013 04:53PM

Muckit wrote: »

Yes I agree. A good day driving stakes with a Mallet is what he needs..... be running back crying to use the spade and dig more drains!!

Never used a mallet, always either a bar or sledge. Though I'm gone off the sledge now as the matchsticks posting as stakes break too easy. We had a mighty bar once, must have been four inches thick and five feet long, would drive anything. So, mallet might get a chance, use half rounds so not sure would one of those two handled drivers fit over them.

who the fug · 22-11-2013 05:08PM

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

Fun with matches. Only a few individual Furze bushes on the go at once. Lots of green stuff and grass not fully dry so plenty of schmoke, all under control.

Clannad if they are still about may want that as their next Album cover. If not start selling it in the US

Username John · 22-11-2013 05:24PM

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

Never used a mallet, always either a bar or sledge. Though I'm gone off the sledge now as the matchsticks posting as stakes break too easy. We had a mighty bar once, must have been four inches thick and five feet long, would drive anything. So, mallet might get a chance, use half rounds so not sure would one of those two handled drivers fit over them.

A mallet will be les likely to split the stakes Con, in comparison to a metal sledge / bar.

moy83 · 22-11-2013 08:36PM

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

use half rounds so not sure would one of those two handled drivers fit over them.

They do , I bought one off adverts last year and wouldnt be without it for any fencing . Especially suits me as I'm a short arse and dont have the reach with the sledge for long posts

stanflt · 22-11-2013 09:01PM

its the 22nov really!!!!

Muckit · 22-11-2013 09:02PM

half barrel

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