Sean O'Rourke Today Show

IvyTheTerrible · 13-11-2013 11:26AM

constitutionus wrote: »

WTF ?

i lost a stone just by cutting out the soft drinks and getting off the bus half an hour's walk earlier from the house.

thats mad stuff for someone to come out with. i missed the show but hope sean ripped into them.

decided to listen to sean today. pats going on about IVF, which while i know is an emotive issue, means feck all to me so im off him today.

He said something like 'the message of eating less and exercising more is not working because it/we're not engaging with people'. I suppose 8000 euro is engaging?

Callan57 · 13-11-2013 02:42PM

IvyTheTerrible wrote: »

He said something like 'the message of eating less and exercising more is not working because it/we're not engaging with people'. I suppose 8000 euro is engaging?

8000 would certainly get my attention. If he gives me 8000 I'll loose the weight I promise you.

georgesstreet · 13-11-2013 02:53PM

Callan57 wrote: »

8000 would certainly get my attention. If he gives me 8000 I'll loose the weight I promise you.

loose?

mickydoomsux · 14-11-2013 10:48AM

This maniac on about transgender people at the moment is everything that's wrong with our touchy feely PC world.

She's saying that gender shouldn't be on birth certificates and children will know they're trans at the age of eight or nine and should be allowed to make a decision to live as their other gender at that stage with no problems.

I have zero problems with transgender people but this woman is genuinely ****ing insane.

touts · 14-11-2013 11:00AM

mickydoomsux wrote: »

This maniac on about transgender people at the moment is everything that's wrong with our touchy feely PC world.

She's saying that gender shouldn't be on birth certificates and children will know they're trans at the age of eight or nine and should be allowed to make a decision to live as their other gender at that stage with no problems.

I have zero problems with transgender people but this woman is genuinely ****ing insane.

She was winning the discussion while she was making it about adults. But the moment she started to talk about children as young as 5 being allowed to make decisions about their sexuality and gender she lost it. Anytime you bring children into a sexuality debate you will lose the debate.

Callan57 · 14-11-2013 11:20AM

HSE managers getting allowances to pay their private health insurance - you couldn't make this up! :rolleyes:

Ciaran_B · 14-11-2013 11:25AM

Good report from Valerie Cox here.

CorsendonkX · 14-11-2013 11:30AM

touts wrote: »

She was winning the discussion while she was making it about adults. But the moment she started to talk about children as young as 5 being allowed to make decisions about their sexuality and gender she lost it. Anytime you bring children into a sexuality debate you will lose the debate.

True, but 1.7% of births are intersexed, not a topic that parents are willing to talk about at coffee mornings. A special opt out option on the birth cert until the parents, child and doctors can decide on which sex to choose might be a good idea.

http://www.thejournal.ie/readme/ireland-needs-to-re-examine-the-legal-gender-of-intersex-children-1157143-Nov2013/

SEPT 23 1989 · 14-11-2013 11:44AM

I am sure somebody somewhere is interested in this

Call me Al · 18-11-2013 10:48AM

Who is the woman involved in this argument?

Callan57 · 18-11-2013 10:49AM

Call me Al wrote: »

Who is the woman involved in this argument?

No idea but she's very patronising ... for once I think Paschal is winning though

artful_codger · 18-11-2013 10:49AM

Bit of a pointless discussion on the economy when Public Sector reform/croke park isn't mentioned.

georgesstreet · 18-11-2013 10:51AM

Callan57 wrote: »

No idea but she's very patronising ... for once I think Paschal is winning though

Does that translate as you don't like her views?

IvyTheTerrible · 18-11-2013 10:57AM

Very interesting that the money is tax free but people should be aware that no PRSI contributions are made.

touts · 18-11-2013 10:57AM

Call me Al wrote: »

Who is the woman involved in this argument?

"European taxpayers are bailing out Ireland". Yea but they are getting quite a few pounds of flesh in return and they are getting every cent back with crippling interest. AND the reason we are in this degree of trouble is because we bailed out their pension funds who gambled billions on the empty promises of private banks like Anglo Irish and Irish Nationwide. AND we were good enough to accept uneconomically low interest rates when the German economy needed it because they decided (for no good reason other than nostalgia) to reunite.

A sensible nation would have left the private banks fail. A sensible nation would have burned the gambling bondholders. A sensible nation would have vetoed German reunification. BUT we were good Europeans and we took the pain for some vague concept of a greater good of the continent. Now it's time for the rest of Europe to return the favour. A little grattitude from stuck up "experts" like that one would be appreciated.

georgesstreet · 18-11-2013 11:02AM

touts wrote: »

BUT we were good Europeans

Yes, if you think being a good European means saying "yes" to everything the other Europeans want, and then we can get a nice pat on the head and told we are "good boys", like many good and faithful dogs who carry out their masters bidding.

imme · 18-11-2013 09:29PM

RTE are running an ad for the Sean O'Rourke radio show.

blah, blah, blah...... then something about Sean "putting the boot in"

Then they have O'Rourke saying something like "ah now, hold the bell a minute".

Is that putting the boot in.

Savaged by a dead sheep and all that. :rolleyes:

Loafing Oaf · 19-11-2013 10:10AM

Both SOR and PK starting the show with chats with Irish Times 'correspondents'. How will radio current affairs shows fill up the hours if the IT ever goes bust?

constitutionus · 19-11-2013 10:22AM

simple.

theyll just hire em part time for peanuts !

georgesstreet · 19-11-2013 10:35AM

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Both SOR and PK starting the show with chats with Irish Times 'correspondents'. How will radio current affairs shows fill up the hours if the IT ever goes bust?

If you do the maths, the Irish Times is unlikely to be around for much longer, and its more a case of "when" rather than "if".

Loafing Oaf · 19-11-2013 10:50AM

constitutionus wrote: »

simple.

theyll just hire em part time for peanuts !

Actually experienced print journalists often make good broadcasters: I believe SOR himself worked for years at the Press (although the peanuts clearly don't apply in his case:P). Newtalk's business guy Ian Guider, taken on after the Trib folded, is excellent. Doubt RTE and Newstalk will be able to provide homes for all the out of work IT hacks when the day comes though...

serfboard · 19-11-2013 12:39PM

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Both SOR and PK starting the show with chats with Irish Times 'correspondents'.

I think Harry McGee has an ISDN line into his house, for this very reason. He was on the radio one morning and you could hear his kids in the background

spank_inferno · 20-11-2013 10:12AM

So, am I right in saying that now the state has put the burden of failing private sector pensions onto the taxpayer??

(I just want to confirm that I am now paying public sector pensioners & now DB private pension holders.... While not being able to afford 1c for my own pension).

Expunge · 20-11-2013 10:52AM

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Newtalk's business guy Ian Guider, taken on after the Trib folded, is excellent.

He may be a good journalist, but he has a terrible radio presence - Dis, dat dese and dose and has a raspy voice - not suitable to speak on national radio.
Same goes for another print refugee - Brian Dowling on Radio 1. Again awful, awful to listen to.

IvyTheTerrible · 20-11-2013 10:56AM

Alcohol is responsible for some suicides but not all. It's a dangerous thing to assume that getting rid of alcohol will get rid of suicide.
When my brother committed suicide, lots of locals were going round saying he had a drinking problem. The postmortem did not find a trace of any drug, legal or otherwise in his system.

Callan57 · 20-11-2013 11:22AM

IvyTheTerrible wrote: »

Alcohol is responsible for some suicides but not all. It's a dangerous thing to assume that getting rid of alcohol will get rid of suicide.
When my brother committed suicide, lots of locals were going round saying he had a drinking problem. The postmortem did not find a trace of any drug, legal or otherwise in his system.

Absolutely agree but I guess naturally enough parents etc want desperately to find someone or something they can blame. It is difficult to accept that your child simply found life too difficult to cope with & made a decision to opt out of it.
I do however agree the "glorification" and OTT funerals is a major issue & I believe the Facebook generation do not fully appreciating the finality of death but have a view of death as not unlike emigration. Sorry if that offends but I have experience of suicide and I have heard teenagers talk as though they could still "facebook" the deceased - seriously divorced from reality IMO.

IvyTheTerrible · 20-11-2013 03:04PM

Callan57 wrote: »

Absolutely agree but I guess naturally enough parents etc want desperately to find someone or something they can blame. It is difficult to accept that your child simply found life too difficult to cope with & made a decision to opt out of it.
I do however agree the "glorification" and OTT funerals is a major issue & I believe the Facebook generation do not fully appreciating the finality of death but have a view of death as not unlike emigration. Sorry if that offends but I have experience of suicide and I have heard teenagers talk as though they could still "facebook" the deceased - seriously divorced from reality IMO.

Oh I agree it's natural to want to find a reason. We have ideas but to be honest we'll never know for sure.

I know what you mean by OTT funerals. We had a very large funeral (just because of the number of people my brother knew), but we tried to keep it low key. There was only one "speech", from my other brother. His friends don't talk of admiring him or anything else. Perhaps because they were'nt teenagers?

artful_codger · 21-11-2013 12:01PM

Not sure if that last guests microphone was cutting out, or his brain.

RayM · 21-11-2013 05:38PM

Expunge wrote: »

He may be a good journalist, but he has a terrible radio presence - Dis, dat dese and dose and has a raspy voice - not suitable to speak on national radio.
Same goes for another print refugee - Brian Dowling on Radio 1. Again awful, awful to listen to.

You'd really think ability to speak properly would be a fairly basic prerequisite on national radio. RTE has some truly awful voices that shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a microphone. I don't care how good they are at their jobs - if you can't be bothered learning to pronounce the most basic words (this, that, these, those, etc), you should probably remain behind the scenes.

georgesstreet · 22-11-2013 08:38AM

RayM wrote: »

You'd really think ability to speak properly would be a fairly basic prerequisite on national radio. RTE has some truly awful voices that shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a microphone. I don't care how good they are at their jobs - if you can't be bothered learning to pronounce the most basic words (this, that, these, those, etc), you should probably remain behind the scenes.

I disagree, and find the vernacular charming.

My personal favourite and commonplace in ORE-TE is the vowel strangulation which proliferates. Thus "father" becomes "fore-ther" and so on, and words like "diabetes" come out "dia-bait-ees". This has become so commonplace that a village called Kilternan, and often mispronounced by strangling the "e" to come out as "Kil-tier-nan" , was honoured in recent times by the M50 motorway signs all being misspelled as "Kiltiernan" and all had to be taken down and redone to reflect the correct spelling.

Spotting the strangled vowels is often the cause of great merriment in our family.

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