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  • #632
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    FYI: This is Option Number Twenty-Five. Isn't this being a bit, uh, mean on the hamsters?
    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    Right up until he slaughters us.

    Beat me to it :D


  • #633
    smcgiff
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,943 ✭✭✭smcgiff


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    Right up until he slaughters us.

    For your own good don'tcha know.


  • #634
    Bannasidhe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    bumper234 wrote: »
    Beat me to it :D

    No. God beat you to it.
    Or beat you anyway.
    For your own good.
    God is looove.


  • #635
    Brian Shanahan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭Brian Shanahan


    Terrlock wrote: »
    If you wish to know more about that encounter you are free to PM me.

    You made an assertion in a public place, you back that assertion in a public place.

    Until you do so I am going to, rightly, assume that either a) you're lying through your back teeth, or far more likely b) you hallucinated the "vision" and actually have no evidence.


  • #636
    Sarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    OMG! Spoiler!
    Bannasidhe wrote:
    God is looove.
    Baby don't hurt me... don't hurt me... no more. No, seriously please stop hurting me God.


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  • #637
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    bumper234 wrote: »
    How can someone be hostile to an idea of something? Would it be possible for me to be hostile to Harry Potter? Could I be negative about Alice because she got to go to wonderland and I didn't? Would Tom Sawyer care if I called him an idiot?

    Did you really claim atheists were responsible for Columbine? What about 9-11 and Sandy Hook? Any thoughts on why your "God" would allow these things to happen?
    I have made no such claim ... the perpretrators of the school massacres had 'natural selection' motives and based their killing spree on 'eliminating the unfit' allright ... but so did Hitler ... and no grouping can or should be blamed for what extremists and psychopaths may do.


  • #638
    Terrlock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 692 ✭✭✭Terrlock


    Gordon wrote: »
    Genuine question: how old do you think the Earth is?

    more then 4.54 billion years old.


  • #639
    Sarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    OMG! Spoiler!
    Let me just link that post again, seeing as J C is trying to deny he wrote anything like it: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=74826204#post74826204

    Hell, I'll even quote it here for everyone, word for word, exclamation after redundant exclamation:
    J C wrote:
    robindch wrote:
    In case they're murdered by evolutionists?

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/scottish-backpacker-stabbed-to-death-after-creationism-row-765266.html

    Oops, got that the wrong way around. Looks like it's creationists are the dangerous ones.


    I wouldn't have gone there if I was you !!!

    ... anyway, I see that you are still having problems with facts ... this wasn't a case of murder ... but one of manslaughter as a result of a row between two people, about who knows what ultimately. The judge said he was giving the killer a relatively lenient sentence partly because of the accidental nature of the stabbing.

    ... however, the Columbine Massacre and the Finnish School Shootings were not accidents ... they were the deliberate murder of people ... and the murderers were deeply committed Evolutionists primarily motivated by a warped sense of the importance of Natural Selection!!! :(

    http://www.straight-talk.net/evolution/columbine.htm
    http://oddculture.com/deadly-finnish-school-shooting/

    This is J C, people. Isn't he just a lovely fellow?


  • #640
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    Right up until he slaughters us.
    He won't slaughter us ... but Mankind does a horrific amount of slaughtering itself.

    Love is the only antidote to evil.


  • #641
    An Riabhach
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,714 ✭✭✭An Riabhach


    J C wrote: »
    They certainly don't represent me or any orthodox branch of Christianity, that I'm aware of.

    ... and they seem to have forgotten the injunction to love our neighbour as ourselves.

    Is it not true that they worship the same god,or is it your belief that the god they worship is different to yours-in order to distinguish yerselves from them?Did they get their ideals from the same bible,or did Fred Phelps invent his own?

    Siúl leat, siúl leat, le dóchas i do chroí, is ní shiúlfaidh tú i d'aonar go deo.



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  • #642
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    FYI: This is Option Number Twenty-Five. Isn't this being a bit, uh, mean on the hamsters?
    J C wrote: »
    I have made no such claim ... the perpretrators of the school massacres had 'natural selection' motives and based their killing spree on 'eliminating the unfit' allright ... but so did Hitler ... and no grouping can or should be blamed for what extremists and psychopaths may do.

    Ah I see now....my bad....you said evolutionists were responsible.


  • #643
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 52,034 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    FYI: This is Option Number Twenty-Five. Isn't this being a bit, uh, mean on the hamsters?
    re:columbine post Sarky posted.

    looks like JC is the one showing the hostility based on that bonkers post.

    If you can read this, you're too close!



  • #644
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    FYI: This is Option Number Twenty-Five. Isn't this being a bit, uh, mean on the hamsters?
    Am still waiting for one of them to explain why their "God" is the right one. What about all of the other gods with billions of followers?


  • #645
    smcgiff
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,943 ✭✭✭smcgiff


    Terrlock wrote: »
    more then 4.54 billion years old.

    Roughly where does Genesis fit into this timescale?


  • #646
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    Sarky wrote: »
    Let me just link that post again, seeing as J C is trying to deny he wrote anything like it: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=74826204#post74826204

    Hell, I'll even quote it here for everyone, word for word, exclamation after redundant exclamation:
    ... I said that they were primarily motivated by a warped sense of the importance of Natural Selection!!!

    ... and that seems to have been their position.
    Eric David Harris wrote the following in the lead up to the Massacre:-
    "Sometime in April next year, me and V [Klebold] will get revenge and we'll kick natural selection up a few notches...It'll be like the L.A. Riots, the Oklahoma bombing, WWII, Vietnam, Duke and Doom all mixed together...I want to leave a lasting impression on the world."


  • #647
    Brian Shanahan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭Brian Shanahan


    Terrlock wrote: »
    God is indescribable, I encountered God when my spirit left my body for a few minutes.

    He came to me surrounded by an armada of angels. I could not look at his being as there was a thick cloud between him and I. I say thick cloud but it was not in fact a cloud it was just like a thick cloud.

    The reason for the cloud was because if I looked on God I would die instantly.

    I asked him hundreds of questions and he dismissed them all as folly. Man made nonsense that has no meaning at all. The only thing that matters in life is that I follow him through his Son Jesus and stay on the Good side of life.

    He told me not to leave my body again or I could die and he told me blessed are those who believe without seeing.

    I insisted on him answering some of my questions and his answers that he gave me can actually be found in the Book of Job in the bible.

    I had not read the book at the time on my encounter.

    In fact God answers anyone who questions his morality or his reasons for doing things through the book book of Job.

    I qualify my earlier statement, you were definitely hallucinating. And my guess as to the cause would either be mind-altering substances or sleep paralysis, which is often the cause of "visions" such as what you describe.


  • #648
    Sarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    OMG! Spoiler!
    That's some nice weaselling, J C. It might even have worked if you hadn't gone all apologist on the creationist who stabbed someone in the very same post.

    You should be ashamed of yourself.


  • #649
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 52,034 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    FYI: This is Option Number Twenty-Five. Isn't this being a bit, uh, mean on the hamsters?
    Please stop digging, JC :(

    If you can read this, you're too close!



  • #650
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    Sarky wrote: »
    That's some nice weaselling, J C. It might even have worked if you hadn't gone all apologist on the creationist who stabbed someone in the very same post.

    You should be ashamed of yourself.
    I didn't go apologist for anybody ... I merely pointed out the facts ... that the 'murderer' that Robin was talking about was convicted of manslaughter in some kind of drunken row.

    Terrible behaviour ... and certainly not Christian behaviour ... which is to love our neighbour as ourselves.


  • #651
    Sarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    OMG! Spoiler!
    And bam! No True Scotsman fallacy. Come on, J C, you can do better than that.

    Actually, that's not fair. We all know you can't do any better than that.


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  • #652
    Terrlock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 692 ✭✭✭Terrlock


    smcgiff wrote: »
    Roughly where does Genesis fit into this timescale?

    Time is not a constant it is a variable.

    Time itself has changed since the creation of the universe

    What time is it at the edge of the universe compared to the time on earth?

    Can you explain why there is so little Moon Dust?

    The lunar surface is exposed to direct sunlight, and strong ultraviolet light and x-rays can destroy the surface layers of exposed rock and reduce them to dust at a rate of a few then-thousandths of an inch per year. But even this minute amount during the age of the moon could be sufficient to form a layer several miles deep. But turns out this is not the case.


    There is only a few thousand years worth of dust found.


  • #653
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    The phase you highlighted is quite obviously a throwaway remark. It has no bearing on the reality,importance, or anything else of natural selection. What you've just done is similar to me claiming that someone claiming they're going to 'go biblical' on someone else is a point against religion. Its absurd on many, many levels.
    They were two very sick people ... but nonetheless they seemed to base their actions on a warped sense of Natural Selection ... and 'giving it a hand' ... one of the excuses that the Nazis also used for their massacre.
    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    What you've just done is similar to me claiming that someone claiming they're going to 'go biblical' on someone else is a point against religion. Its absurd on many, many levels.
    My post was replying to the following post by Robin ... which accused Creationists of being 'dangerous' ... based on a row and knifing between two people, one of whom claimed to be a 'Creationist'. I was just pointing out that violent people may be found across the 'origins' spectrum ... or indeed across any other spectrum of Humanity!!

    .. whereas Robin accused all Creationists of being 'dangerous' ... without any qualification, on the basis of a news report of one stabbing in a row between an 'evolutionist' and a 'creationist'.
    wrote:
    Originally Posted by robindch
    In case they're murdered by evolutionists?

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...ow-765266.html

    Oops, got that the wrong way around. Looks like it's creationists are the dangerous ones.


  • #654
    Brian Shanahan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭Brian Shanahan


    Terrlock wrote: »
    God sounds like a child who thinks they know everything and ignores the advice of a Good Parent.

    FYP.

    If you actually read the bible in proper detail, instead of getting your quote mines of AIG and Conservapedia, then you would realise that god is nothing more than a spoiled brat of a five year old who for the first time in his life has heard the word "no".

    He is in fact the Squire of Gothos, out of Star Trek:TOS, the alien named Trelane.


  • #655
    Brian Shanahan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭Brian Shanahan


    Terrlock wrote: »
    Never heard of the Phelps family, but I will have a look and let you know what my opinion is

    Westboro Baptist Church. Going by his posting history, they're the kind of christian JC would describe as "too liberal".


  • #656
    smcgiff
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,943 ✭✭✭smcgiff


    Terrlock wrote: »
    Time is not a constant it is a variable.

    Time itself has changed since the creation of the universe

    What time is it at the edge of the universe compared to the time on earth?

    Can you explain why there is so little Moon Dust?

    The lunar surface is exposed to direct sunlight, and strong ultraviolet light and x-rays can destroy the surface layers of exposed rock and reduce them to dust at a rate of a few then-thousandths of an inch per year. But even this minute amount during the age of the moon could be sufficient to form a layer several miles deep. But turns out this is not the case.


    There is only a few thousand years worth of dust found.


    The time at the edge of the universe relative to us is very different, but we're talking about the Earth, relative to itself. Moon dust strawman ignored.



    On the timescale of 4.54 Billion years. Use whatever logic you want, where does Genesis fit in?

    For example, was man created in 7 days 4.54 Billion years ago or was he created approx 6,000 years ago on an Earth 4.54 Billion years old.

    Or another possibility?


  • #657
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    Brian Shanahan wrote: »
    Westboro Baptist Church. Going by his posting history, they're the kind of christian JC would describe as "too liberal".
    Which part of the following post by me (in relation to Phelps) do you not understand?
    wrote:
    Originally Posted by J C
    They certainly don't represent me or any orthodox branch of Christianity, that I'm aware of.

    ... and they seem to have forgotten the injunction to love our neighbour as ourselves.


  • #658
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    koth wrote: »
    Please stop digging, JC :(
    You're the guys digging a hole for your ideas.

    I'm simply defending my good name from unfounded slurs.


  • #659
    Brian Shanahan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭Brian Shanahan


    J C wrote: »
    Which part of the following post by me (in relation to Phelps) do you not understand?

    Which of your 9,500 plus of your posts do you not understand?

    I have you measured exactly. I know full well what type of person you are.


  • #660
    J C
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    Brian Shanahan wrote: »
    Which of your 9,500 plus of your posts do you not understand?

    I have you measured exactly. I know full well what type of person you are.
    ... and that would be?


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  • #661
    Brian Shanahan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭Brian Shanahan


    J C wrote: »
    ... and that would be?
    Brian Shanahan wrote: »
    Westboro Baptist Church. Going by his posting history, they're the kind of christian JC would describe as "too liberal".

    Plain enough for you?


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