25% of Irish men in their 20s have slept with another man

Galwayguy35 · 15-11-2013 08:42PM

Czarcasm wrote: »

Not necessarily GG. Many gay and lesbian people will have had heterosexual experiences, but that doesn't mean they're heterosexual or even bisexual. There's a lot more to it than merely the sexual act. There are probably just as many gay and lesbian virgins as there are heterosexual virgins, proportionally speaking obviously. Then there are asexuals, who have no interest in sex with either men or women.

Point being, a person can have sex with another person or persons of the same sex, but that doesn't necessarily mean they're automatically gay/lesbian/bisexual.

True, I suppose I was just thinking about it from my own point of view.

hotmail.com · 15-11-2013 08:42PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

So you think that if a straight man has too many beers he could end up in bed with another fella and be 100% straight?

A lot of drunk straight blokes will take a blow job off a man or a woman. They don't care.

Vito Corleone · 15-11-2013 08:44PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

A lot of drunk straight blokes will take a blow job off a man or a woman. They don't care.

lol

oldyouth · 15-11-2013 08:46PM

I don't give a swinging fluck what other people do. Get on with your own business is my belief. However, I don't think homosexuality is as prominent in reality as modern culture would suggest. I just think those who are that way inclined promote themselves stronger than others did in the past, which is fair enough

Galwayguy35 · 15-11-2013 08:46PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

A lot of drunk straight blokes will take a blow job off a man or a woman. They don't care.

Yeah :rolleyes:

hotmail.com · 15-11-2013 08:47PM

oldyouth wrote: »

I don't give a swinging fluck what other people do. Get on with your own business is my belief. However, I don't think homosexuality is as prominent in reality as modern culture would suggest. I just think those who are that way inclined promote themselves stronger than others did in the past, which is fair enough

How exactly is it prominent?

There is no 'out' Hollywood actor for example. Only 3 TDs in the Dail are 'out' is another. How is this prominent?

hotmail.com · 15-11-2013 08:48PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Yeah :rolleyes:

Yeah what?

mr_edge_to_you · 15-11-2013 08:50PM

1/4 of all surveys are bull shlt.

stimpson · 15-11-2013 08:51PM

Wacker The Attacker wrote: »

I doubt it. Particularly when it comes to admitting that youve have gay sex in a national newspaper article.

That's a funny place to have gay sex.

poundapunnet · 15-11-2013 08:51PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

How exactly is it prominent?

There is no 'out' Hollywood actor for example. Only 3 TDs in the Dail are 'out' is another. How is this prominent?

Zachary Quinto is pretty hollywood.

There's portia/ellen, wentworth miller, neil patrick harris, Raven, Frank Ocean. I'm sure there are way more in the closet still but even compared to ten years ago there's an incredible amount of people out and a tiny amount of fuss about it. The shít poor Ellen de Generes got back in the day

Galwayguy35 · 15-11-2013 08:51PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

Yeah what?

Your raving thats what.

I like a blowjob as much as anyone else but would i want one off a man, no way.

Pug160 · 15-11-2013 08:55PM

Czarcasm wrote: »

mango I know that, and you know that, but Pug doesn't seem to know that

mango salsa wrote: »

Doh - I didn't read pugs posts properly - wtf?

I acknowledged that sexuality is not always black and white. That was why I posted that in the first place. One of my own friends admitted to me that he had a relationship with a pre op transsexual, even though he is seemingly straight and only has eyes for girls usually. I was just pointing out a technicality, one which cannot be denied. No need to patronise.

The Diabolical Monocle · 15-11-2013 08:58PM

Muahahaha wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/men-are-more-likely-to-have-samesex-experiences-29749603.html

I'm usually loathe to reproduce anything by the Indo but in this instance it was a poll of 1,000 people so therefore statistically significant.

Results show that 13% of Irish men in their thirties have slept with another man. For Irish men in their 20s that rises to 25%, one in every four.

The poll doesn't specify exactly what is meant, it just says that 25% of Irish men in their 20s have had a sexual encounter with another man. I suppose in theory that could cover men who have had threesomes with another man and a girl.

Still though pretty surprising results, you big pack of dirty dogs !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaG5SAw1n0c

hotmail.com · 15-11-2013 09:00PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Your raving thats what.

I like a blowjob as much as anyone else but would i want one off a man, no way.

That's for you, but not every man is the same. Duh...

The Big Smoke · 15-11-2013 09:03PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj3VphK9AMk

Annasopra · 15-11-2013 09:05PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Well if he had sex with girls as well as fellas he would be bisexual, wouldn't he?

Not necessarily no.

Czarcasm · 15-11-2013 09:05PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

A lot of drunk straight blokes will take a blow job off a man or a woman. They don't care.

Ehh, no, they won't actually, and yes, they do care. Just because a survey says 25% of men in their 20s have had same sex encounters, that doesn't mean we should allow gay and lesbian people to lose the run of themselves and start projecting their fantasies as fact.

Annasopra · 15-11-2013 09:06PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

So you think that if a straight man has too many beers he could end up in bed with another fella and be 100% straight?

Yes

A.Partridge · 15-11-2013 09:07PM

So, what they're saying is that one in four of us has dropped anchor in Pooh Bay?

NO WAY, I TELL YA.

NO WAY. :mad:

Galwayguy35 · 15-11-2013 09:09PM

mango salsa wrote: »

Yes

In your opinion, which like mine is only that, no gaurantee either of us is right.

Annasopra · 15-11-2013 09:09PM

A.Partridge wrote: »

So, what they're saying is that one in four of us has dropped anchor in Pooh Bay?

NO WAY, I TELL YA.

NO WAY. :mad:

Did you come out of the 1970s with that offensive "joke" as well?

You remind of some of the late late show clips with hysterical claims that gay men are obsessed with back passages.

Guess what? many gay men dont have anal sex.

Pug160 · 15-11-2013 09:09PM

poundapunnet wrote: »

I dunno you'd have to ask him what I'm saying is that just because somebody has or has had same sex experiences doesn't mean they're gay or bi. People try things out and don't like them or just get a notion after a few drinks or whatever, doesn't give anyone the right to call them liars for saying they're straight, just coz you're standing in a barn doesn't make you a horse like. There's probably hundreds of gay people in this country alone with children from previous marriages, it doesn't mean they're bisexual.

I agree with that in theory. But in my opinion, if someone is curious enough to actually try something out, they must feel some sort of attraction. I don't buy the whole ''experimenting just for the hell of it'' viewpoint. To me, that's not logical, as if you're not attracted to someone there simply won't be any interest in the first place. As I said, I appreciate the fact that sexuality is not as simple as some people make out, but most people need some degree of attraction.

Annasopra · 15-11-2013 09:10PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

In your opinion, which like mine is only that, no gaurantee either of us is right.

The person who identifies themselves is right.

tayto lover · 15-11-2013 09:10PM

"25% of Irish men in their 20s have slept with another man"

Anyone know who he is?

beks101 · 15-11-2013 09:12PM

Thinking about sexuality in black and white terms is very naive tbh. It's not just the Kinsey Scale that will tell you otherwise, if you observe the people around you all throughout your life you'll see it's not always as simple as "100% straight" or "100% gay".

I've got a lot of gay friends, many of whom had hetero relationships during their teens - a few of them not even as a cover, they were genuinely attracted to their gfs at the time. They had sex with women, now they have sex with men, some of them switch over and back over time.

A close female friend of mine recently fell in love with a woman, after spending her whole life dating men exclusively. She's "straight acting" whatever that means, an absolute stunner and her new girlfriend is equally beautiful with a similar sexual history. Just two beautiful friends who fell head over heels for each other out of the blue.

Personally, I'm straight, but have had same sex encounters as have many of my female friends. I've always appreciated how sexually & physically attractive women can be, but have as yet, not been emotionally attracted or in desire of any kind of relationship with a woman. I can't imagine changing, but equally know that I'd be naive to think that it couldn't.

TLDR; We are all sexual beings. For many/most of us, that sexuality is on a continuum and not as simple as "I'm only into men or women and that will never change"

Galwayguy35 · 15-11-2013 09:14PM

mango salsa wrote: »

The person who identifies themselves is right.

Did you know that guy you mentioned was married?

Annasopra · 15-11-2013 09:15PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Did you know that guy you mentioned was married?

Yes

poundapunnet · 15-11-2013 09:19PM

Pug160 wrote: »

I agree with that in theory. But in my opinion, if someone is curious enough to actually try something out, they must feel some sort of attraction. I don't buy the whole ''experimenting just for the hell of it'' viewpoint. To me, that's not logical, as if you're not attracted to someone there simply won't be any interest in the first place. As I said, I appreciate the fact that sexuality is not as simple as some people make out, but most people need some degree of attraction.

I'd imagine that most of these experiences took place early enough in life though, especially in your teens friendships can be very intense, your hormones are everywhere, and it'd be easy for physical affection to turn into something else. I've a couple of male friends who went to boarding schools and they have some strange stories, the sexual tension amongst any group of adolescents is raging, if that happens to be a single sex environment I can easily see how things could happen between two straight people. when you're as randy as most teenagers I'd imagine that in the heat of the moment attraction mightn't be as important as the physical sensation. So for example boy a IS attracted to boy b, and after a certain point boy b could be likely to just go with it.

hotmail.com · 15-11-2013 09:19PM

Czarcasm wrote: »

Ehh, no, they won't actually, and yes, they do care. Just because a survey says 25% of men in their 20s have had same sex encounters, that doesn't mean we should allow gay and lesbian people to lose the run of themselves and start projecting their fantasies as fact.

How do you know?

FTA69 · 15-11-2013 09:21PM

mango salsa wrote: »

Guess what? many gay men dont have anal sex.

Don't be silly. Sure that's how you catch the gay in the first place.

25% of Irish men in their 20s have slept with another man

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