25% of Irish men in their 20s have slept with another man

Muahahaha

http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/men-are-more-likely-to-have-samesex-experiences-29749603.html

I'm usually loathe to reproduce anything by the Indo but in this instance it was a poll of 1,000 people so therefore statistically significant.

Results show that 13% of Irish men in their thirties have slept with another man. For Irish men in their 20s that rises to 25%, one in every four.

The poll doesn't specify exactly what is meant, it just says that 25% of Irish men in their 20s have had a sexual encounter with another man. I suppose in theory that could cover men who have had threesomes with another man and a girl.

Still though pretty surprising results, you big pack of dirty dogs !

endacl

Why 'dirty'?

Muahahaha

endacl wrote: »

Why 'dirty'?

Don't take yourself so seriously, this is AH

policarp

Don't knock it if you haven't tried it, that's my motto. . .

aN.Droid

I highly doubt those figures stand for the country.

Canis Lupus

Were they polling people coming out of the George?

ruthloss

Typical, they sleep with them but they won't marry them.:rolleyes:

racso1975

Canis Lupus wrote: »

Were they polling people coming out of the George?

I think thats normally what happens to people coming out of the george...........lucky fukers

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy

Canis Lupus wrote: »

Were they polling people coming out of George?

FYP

Galwayguy35

theblaqueguy wrote: »

I would sleep with a shemale
If s/he was like 75% women and 25% man any more man that its too much of a man for me

I'd say once ya saw the swinging dick it might put ya off :pac:

deco nate

Any holes a goal....

It brings to mind Patrick Kavanagh and his "wink and elbow language of delight" from Inisjeen Road.

The immaturity and sniggering of Irish people with regard to homosexuality knows no boundaries and still thrives

Muahahaha

Limericks wrote: »

I highly doubt those figures stand for the country.

If a telephone pollster asked you if you had slept with another man and you hadn't why would you lie about it ? What is there to be gained ?

It's more likely that people who have slept with the same sex would lie about it and deny it than likely that the other way around IMO.

Baked.noodle

While only six per cent of Britons define their sexual orientation as homosexual or bisexual, more than twice that number (13 per cent) of Britons have had some form of sexual contact with someone of the same sex.

Sixteen per cent of women have had sexual contact with another woman, while 10 per cent of men have had sexual contact with another man.

It seems that much of this can be attributed to youthful sexual experimentation as 23 per cent of the 16-24 age group have had sexual contact with someone of the same sex.

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2008/oct/26/relationships

crusher000

Does that mean 25% of them work for RTE ?

The_Mask

I find these figures absurd....think about your male group of friends can you really imagine 1/4 have slept with a man. I don't believe these stats.

Fratton Fred

Does having your knob tickled in confession count?

suicide_circus

wow so apparently i'm mad for the waven

wendell borton

Thread needs poll.

Corvo

I wonder when my time to sleep with a man is. Today, tomorrow, next week?

And will I be pitching or catching?

Karl Stein

It says 'same sex experience'. That could be anything from another dude hitting on you to playing hide-the-sausage.

Lies, damned lies, and statistics.

anncoates

ruthloss wrote: »

Typical, they sleep with them but they won't marry them.:rolleyes:

That's not been a gender specific course of action since the 50s to be fair.

Plazaman

Crikey, in the last 40 years, homosexuality has gone from being illegal to immoral to tolerable to acceptable to legal. Ye don't mind if I might leave before it becomes compulsory.

Ah no, nothing against it myself however I do apply the same rule to it as I do to Fair City : As long as I don't have to watch it, pay for it or participate in it, then I've no problem.

Grayson

was this survey performed on georges street at 2am on a saturday morning?

Czarcasm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It brings to mind Patrick Kavanagh and his "wink and elbow language of delight" from Inisjeen Road.

The immaturity and sniggering of Irish people with regard to homosexuality knows no boundaries and still thrives

Yes, how dare anyone mock some ball of shìte survey by some rag newspaper and a crap radio station. The one or two people getting up on their high horses about this crap is what's immature.

The figures are hardly surprising when you drill down into them (I've read the full survey in last weeks Sunday Independent), and a couple of same sex experiences does not a gay man nor lesbian woman make!

I don't see any issue here tbh, you think some silly survey of 1,000 people purporting to be representative of Irish opinion warrants serious discussion?

That's about as valid as saying a couple of people having a laugh about a ridiculous statistic and how it's interpreted, is representative of Irish people's attitudes to sex.

frag420

Well speaking as a lesbian trapped in a handsome mans body..................

JustAddWater

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It brings to mind Patrick Kavanagh and his "wink and elbow language of delight" from Inisjeen Road.

The immaturity and sniggering of Irish people with regard to homosexuality knows no boundaries and still thrives

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lzREqEHMM0

munchkin_utd

suppose theres 2 fellas banging one chick.
Without even having to stretch the meaning of the question, the 2 fellas are both having a sexual encounter involving another man despite having a chick in between.

Lies lies and damn vague questions.

LuckyLloyd

Seems like a deliberately open ended (ohh err) question designed to produce as sensationalist and inflammatory a result as possible.

Muahahaha

Baked.noodle wrote: »

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2008/oct/26/relationships

The_Mask wrote: »

I find these figures absurd....think about your male group of friends can you really imagine 1/4 have slept with a man. I don't believe these stats.

The stat of 25% of 20 something olds in Ireland having a sexual encounter with another man is pretty consistent with the stats from the Guardian survey in the UK which found that 23% of 16-24 year olds in the UK have done the same.

Just because none of your mates haven't told you they've been with another man doesn't mean it hasn't happened. When you think about it they are a lot more likely to tell an anonymous telephone pollster than they are to tell one of their friends, especially if their friends display any signs of homophobia.

The survey also says much higher numbers in urban areas have experimented with the same sex than have in rural areas so that plays a part too.

Micky Dolenz

3somes and group sex would count. Thought it would be higher than 25%

ancapailldorcha

In a country where the population is a few million, I would hesitate to call 1,000 a statistically significant study population.

Dyr

Couldnt care less what men are doing, why arent they asking de wimminz this question?

Stuart085

What difference does it make? There isn't anything wrong with it, it isn't anything to take offence over. Each to their own.

Dyr

Czarcasm wrote: »

and a couple of same sex experiences does not a gay man nor lesbian woman make!

"I'm taking it up the swiss off another fella but I'm not gay"

fair enough

ancapailldorcha

Bambi wrote: »

Couldnt care less what men are doing, why arent they asking de wimminz this question?

That'd be sexist.

Czarcasm

Bambi wrote: »

Couldnt care less what men are doing, why arent they asking de wimminz this question?

Bambi wrote: »

"I'm taking it up the swiss off another fella but I'm not gay"

fair enough

You didn't read the article linked in the OP then?

It shows that 15pc of men in their thirties – or one in seven – had a same-sex experience, but just 4pc identify themselves as homosexual. For women, 13pc had a same-sex encounter, but just 1pc identified themselves as lesbian.

Overall, 87pc of the 1,000 people surveyed said they were straight (82pc of men and 91pc of women), another 3pc said they were gay (4pc of men and 1pc of women) while 4pc were bisexual (4pc of men and 3pc of women).

Dyr

Czarcasm wrote: »

You didn't read the article linked in the OP then?

I'm noty clicking on an indo link :P

Why would they identify as homosexual/lesbian if they're bi anyway

folan

ride whoever you want, i dont care.

Baked.noodle

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Grayson

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

In a country where the population is a few million, I would hesitate to call 1,000 a statistically significant study population.

http://www.surveysystem.com/sscalc.htm

With a population of 4 million you need 384 polled to be 95% accuract with a confidence of 5%

mathie

endacl wrote: »

Why 'dirty'?

Poop-chute sex.

Next question.

DeVore

Grayson wrote: »

http://www.surveysystem.com/sscalc.htm

With a population of 4 million you need 384 polled to be 95% accuract with a confidence of 5%

This.

General election polls are run on sample sizes of 500-1000 people. You'd be very surprised how quickly a question with a simple answer (like this) converges to a high accuracy and confidence.

oppenheimer1

DeVore wrote: »

This.

General election polls are run on sample sizes of 500-1000 people. You'd be very surprised how quickly a question with a simple answer (like this) converges to a high accuracy and confidence.

The problem is though the question doesn't have a simple answer. The answer is open to interpretation, what exactly is a same sex experience?

Czarcasm

Grayson wrote: »

http://www.surveysystem.com/sscalc.htm

With a population of 4 million you need 384 polled to be 95% accuract with a confidence of 5%

DeVore wrote: »

This.

General election polls are run on sample sizes of 500-1000 people. You'd be very surprised how quickly a question with a simple answer (like this) converges to a high accuracy and confidence.

The full Survey itself was published in the Sunday Independent last week, makes for interesting reading, but it's the way the data is being interpreted to create headlines is a bit funky tbh.

Summary of findings relating to the topic of Sex and Relationships & No Strings:

• 90% of 30 somethings are interested in having a lasting relationship

• 35% of 30 somethings think that it is appropriate for young people to begin having sex at 17 years or younger and 33% think that 18 years of age is more appropriate. 14% of 30 somethings think young people should wait until 19 years of age or older.

• The average 30 something has had 8.5 sexual partners, with just over 1 in 10 of them claiming more than 20 partners thus far

• Roughly 1 in 7 of 30 somethings have had a same sex experience of some type in the past

• 87% of 30 somethings identify themselves as Heterosexual, 7% described themselves as either Gay or Bi-sexual, 1% as Asexual and 2% currently uncertain as to their own sexuality; 3% would rather not say

• 54% of Ireland’s 30 somethings acknowledge that they received adequate guidance from their parents about life, love, work and sex

• When it comes to celebrity ‘no strings, actors beat the singers hands down. Our female 30 somethings singled out the likes of Brad Pitt, George Clooney and Johnny Depp, and their male counterparts picked Angelina Jolie, Mila Kunis, Scarlett Johannson and Sandra Bullock

The results of this survey are based upon a representative sample of 1,005 Irish adults aged 20-49 years.

As such, the results can be deemed to be accurate to within plus or minus 3.2 percentage points at the 95% confidence level.

Fieldwork was conducted over the period 18th – 24th October 2013, with interviewing carried out through the B&A Acumen, and Research Now online panels.

The sample was quota controlled by age, gender, social class (ABC1; C2DE) and region (Dublin; outside Dublin).

The results were subsequently weighted to known population estimates, based on the most recently available Central Statistics Office (CSO) population estimates.

All aspects of the survey were conducted in accordance with the technical and ethical guidelines set down by the Association of Irish Market Research Organisations (AIMRO) and European Society for Opinion and Market Research (ESOMAR)

Source: Summary of findings relating to the topic of Sex and Relationships & No Strings (From the Today FM Website, I can't find the full survey published online)

RDM_83 again

DeVore wrote: »

This.

General election polls are run on sample sizes of 500-1000 people. You'd be very surprised how quickly a question with a simple answer (like this) converges to a high accuracy and confidence.

Its easy to make the figure statistically significant, its harder to have achieve an actually representative sample population.

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

3somes and group sex would count. Thought it would be higher than 25%

The survey is just says a sexual experience so I presume it would include a man having kissed another man, which IMO probably makes the figures believable.

the article does say this

"Some 15pc of those in higher income categories had a night with someone of the same sex, compared with 13pc from lower incomes"

which is higher than I'd have thought but not massively e.g I'd have thought 10% of the population would be bi or gay.

what surprises a lot me is that more men than woman responded yes to this perhaps the fact its more social acceptable for woman/girls to have a snog means that the respondents didn;t even consider it a sexual encounter.

For the record

CrazyRabbit

Hey, stop looking at my groin!

Dirty AH fecker's.

:P

Wacker The Attacker

Muahahaha wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/men-are-more-likely-to-have-samesex-experiences-29749603.html

I'm usually loathe to reproduce anything by the Indo but in this instance it was a poll of 1,000 people so therefore statistically significant.

Results show that 13% of Irish men in their thirties have slept with another man. For Irish men in their 20s that rises to 25%, one in every four.

The poll doesn't specify exactly what is meant, it just says that 25% of Irish men in their 20s have had a sexual encounter with another man. I suppose in theory that could cover men who have had threesomes with another man and a girl.

Still though pretty surprising results, you big pack of dirty dogs !

I doubt it. Particularly when it comes to admitting that youve have gay sex in a national newspaper srticle.

JohnnyChimpo

Lot of people who've never taken a stats course in their lives in this thread, going off their "gut feeling" and fear of the ghey

Czarcasm

JohnnyChimpo wrote: »

Lot of people who've never taken a stats course in their lives in this thread, going off their "gut feeling" and fear of the ghey

Questioning the statistical method is homophobic now? When did that happen?

Or are you just making assumptions based off your own gut feeling? There's a term for that -

In psychology and cognitive science, confirmation bias (or confirmatory bias) is a tendency to search for or interpret information in a way that confirms one's preconceptions, leading to statistical errors.

Source: Science Daily