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just do it · 11-11-2013 07:19PM

stanflt wrote: »

a bit of drainage and ditch cleaning

I notice the way he's piled the spoil well in from the ditch. I'll be getting my man to do it that way any more as tracking it in along by the ditch only causes an obstacle to surface water trying to run into the ditch.

jaymla627 · 11-11-2013 07:24PM

Timmaay wrote: »

Stan mentioned before that the shed is only costing him 18k, with the milkprice like it is now that sort of money would be very manageable straight from cashflow with his volume of milk. Actually Stan do ya mind giving a rough breakdown of what the rest the job will cost, if you have worked that far forward yet!

The sheds only a after-thought when you go dropping concrete and digging out tanks/slats etc thats where the money add-up, we put in 90 cubicle spaces into an existing shed this year came to 20,000 all-in but that was just for cubicles/mats/concrete for cubicle beds and passageway with us doing all the labour except for a local lad that done the finishing on the concrete

td5man · 11-11-2013 07:26PM

just do it wrote: »

I notice the way he's piled the spoil well in from the ditch. I'll be getting my man to do it that way any more as tracking it in along by the ditch only causes an obstacle to surface water trying to run into the ditch.

It also means you can clean any bits that gather up in the bottom with tracking the other stuff allover the place

jersey101 · 11-11-2013 07:27PM

Sharpshooter82 wrote: »

Inside and nice a cosy for a few months

where did you get the trough sharp? If you dont mind me asking.
Been looking for one like that.

limo_100 · 11-11-2013 07:29PM

jersey101 wrote: »

where did you get the trough sharp? If you dont mind me asking.
Been looking for one like that.

it looks like an 8foot gibney one cause i have one

jersey101 · 11-11-2013 07:33PM

limo_100 wrote: »

it looks like an 8foot gibney one cause i have one

seen tge plastic jfc ones and there 80 euro.

bob charles · 11-11-2013 07:34PM

Timmaay wrote: »

Stan mentioned before that the shed is only costing him 18k, with the milkprice like it is now that sort of money would be very manageable straight from cashflow with his volume of milk.

irrespective I still like to keep my cash for running the business, if next year came as a disaster (hope not) then you can be really caught with your pants down. Funding capital with cash will get up the noses of lots of financial buffs:rolleyes:. I can think of better things to do with cash that will generate money at farm level than pouring it into the ground, this is what I use long term loans for. The longer the better. I have never found sheds to build expensive its whats underground or the fit out that cost the serious bucks. I priced up a tank last week 120* 28 and its costing €50k incl vat all in for full spec, allowing 6k for digging and rock breaking and 2k for engineer/insurance, which must be on the money as it works out similar price to 200 a foot that stan gave.

limo_100 · 11-11-2013 07:35PM

jersey101 wrote: »

seen tge plastic jfc ones and there 80 euro.

the gibney is around 50 or 60 and the 4foot one is 35 so there good value i think. JFC are very expensive for everything

just do it · 11-11-2013 08:07PM

jersey101 wrote: »

where did you get the trough sharp? If you dont mind me asking.
Been looking for one like that.

Only for use with light stock though like in the picture. I speak from experience :rolleyes:

Sharpshooter82 · 11-11-2013 08:15PM

jersey101 wrote: »

where did you get the trough sharp? If you dont mind me asking.
Been looking for one like that.

its a gibney 8ft trough, cost 50 euro so good value. As mentioned before it is a little light and wouldnt take a 400-500kg animal landing on it but not bad for the money in fairness and asyou see the pen aint too tight so the weanlings shouldnt be on top of it

Bodacious · 11-11-2013 10:48PM

Bodacious wrote: »

No hopefully hold out into December anyway depending on the weather. just threw 8 cows onto another part of it, ran single strand of temporary electric fence and make them eat it, furze taking over.. only try them out for 2 weeks .. if they start to melt ill take them in off of it as wouldn't let them go backwards these time of year and couple of them (one in pic) start calving mid january

they still sticking it well:)

Muckit · 11-11-2013 10:57PM

Bodacious wrote: »

they still sticking it well:)

God you have them in great order. Be interesting to post a picture next spring to see how they fair out

J DEERE · 11-11-2013 11:03PM

bob charles wrote: »

irrespective I still like to keep my cash for running the business, if next year came as a disaster (hope not) then you can be really caught with your pants down. Funding capital with cash will get up the noses of lots of financial buffs:rolleyes:. I can think of better things to do with cash that will generate money at farm level than pouring it into the ground, this is what I use long term loans for. The longer the better. I have never found sheds to build expensive its whats underground or the fit out that cost the serious bucks. I priced up a tank last week 120* 28 and its costing €50k incl vat all in for full spec, allowing 6k for digging and rock breaking and 2k for engineer/insurance, which must be on the money as it works out similar price to 200 a foot that stan gave.

Everything we do is funded by cash flow. Keeps the mattress from getting too lumpy and uncomfortable:D

Conmaicne Mara · 11-11-2013 11:10PM

Bodacious wrote: »

they still sticking it well:)

You have a good piece of hill for them.

F.D · 12-11-2013 09:40AM

bob charles wrote: »

irrespective I still like to keep my cash for running the business, if next year came as a disaster (hope not) then you can be really caught with your pants down. Funding capital with cash will get up the noses of lots of financial buffs:rolleyes:. I can think of better things to do with cash that will generate money at farm level than pouring it into the ground, this is what I use long term loans for. The longer the better. I have never found sheds to build expensive its whats underground or the fit out that cost the serious bucks. I priced up a tank last week 120* 28 and its costing €50k incl vat all in for full spec, allowing 6k for digging and rock breaking and 2k for engineer/insurance, which must be on the money as it works out similar price to 200 a foot that stan gave.

Depends on how much loans etc you have already, on a good year it might be easier crack on with the cash you have rather than trying to beg the bank to lend you more, and missing the chance at a point in time, but i see your point because we have done it a few years ago with a shed and it left things harder the following year, but at the same time its one loan less now

F.D · 12-11-2013 09:43AM

stanflt wrote: »

tank is 200euro a foot including slats

Stan does this work out better value than your overground tank you have in place already, would it be cheaper to put up a second tank and scraped passage?

Bodacious · 12-11-2013 10:30AM

Muckit wrote: »

God you have them in great order. Be interesting to post a picture next spring to see how they fair out

ill hold them there for only 3 weeks to stretch out the winterage where I usually feed them, I don't plan on feeding them in it as place is too awkward to ferry lots of bales up to them and I wouldn't want to let them slip conditionwise this time of year either as all I feed is haylage and avoid feeding concentrates to cows, I only feed a Fr X rearing twins

ive bales put up high in another place for few 1.5 year bulling heifers.

Bodacious · 12-11-2013 10:36AM

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

You have a good piece of hill for them.

hi Con,

its very bad with furze now as a result of undergrazing, no sheep ever on it ever just few ponies and cattle years back, cannot burn furze as probably a hundred or more household water pipes heading to the lake = disaster!!!!

few grand on grazon 90 and knapsacks or a team of men with thick gloves and loppers, neither likely to happen!

redzerologhlen · 12-11-2013 01:16PM

Bodacious wrote: »

ill hold them there for only 3 weeks to stretch out the winterage where I usually feed them, I don't plan on feeding them in it as place is too awkward to ferry lots of bales up to them and I wouldn't want to let them slip conditionwise this time of year either as all I feed is haylage and avoid feeding concentrates to cows, I only feed a Fr X rearing twins

ive bales put up high in another place for few 1.5 year bulling heifers.

We are gone the other way with the winterages around here, only feed concentrates and dont bother with hay or silage to the cows any more. I suppose our winterages would be a lot drier alright though.

Conmaicne Mara · 12-11-2013 03:09PM

Bodacious wrote: »

hi Con,

its very bad with furze now as a result of undergrazing, no sheep ever on it ever just few ponies and cattle years back, cannot burn furze as probably a hundred or more household water pipes heading to the lake = disaster!!!!

few grand on grazon 90 and knapsacks or a team of men with thick gloves and loppers, neither likely to happen!

Yeah, same as a lot of other places. The pipes are a pain, the cops were around here last year or the year before when a big piece of the hill was burnt and pipes with it.

I saw a yoke on DD, a robotic flail mower specially for slopes, any use

Bodacious · 12-11-2013 06:21PM

redzerologhlen wrote: »

We are gone the other way with the winterages around here, only feed concentrates and dont bother with hay or silage to the cows any more. I suppose our winterages would be a lot drier alright though.

yours is a great scheme .. was reading up on it from the start. Wish they could invent a similar scheme for these commonages, looks like they saying in farming indo today that there will be something down the line to make/reward shareholders in such commonages to work together for the common good in such tracts of land.

my old neighbour /advisor tells me if they leaving big high healthy shxts after them that they are doing alright!!

he used to graze the life out of it with cows/calves and keep the good ground for grazing yearlings and 2 year olds for selling

I might have to sell the commercials and try out a herd of dexters and a bull on it and keep our own land for finishing/producing silage!! start up my own brand of dexter!

onyerbikepat · 12-11-2013 06:41PM

Bodacious wrote: »

my old neighbour /advisor tells me if they leaving big high healthy shxts after them that they are doing alright!!

The vioce of experience.;)

limo_100 · 12-11-2013 07:29PM

Bodacious wrote: »

yours is a great scheme .. was reading up on it from the start. Wish they could invent a similar scheme for these commonages, looks like they saying in farming indo today that there will be something down the line to make/reward shareholders in such commonages to work together for the common good in such tracts of land.

my old neighbour /advisor tells me if they leaving big high healthy shxts after them that they are doing alright!!

he used to graze the life out of it with cows/calves and keep the good ground for grazing yearlings and 2 year olds for selling

I might have to sell the commercials and try out a herd of dexters and a bull on it and keep our own land for finishing/producing silage!! start up my own brand of dexter!

were can you read up on the winterage that redzer has sounds interesting theres notting like that in these parts pity cause you'd probably end up with much healthier livestock

redzerologhlen · 12-11-2013 07:57PM

limo_100 wrote: »

were can you read up on the winterage that redzer has sounds interesting theres notting like that in these parts pity cause you'd probably end up with much healthier livestock

Its called the Burren Farming for Conservation programme. If you google it you will get plenty of hits and articles from papers. The website is here http://www.burrenlife.com/

Short youtube clip about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5jZnwXcSMQ

Conmaicne Mara · 12-11-2013 08:08PM

redzerologhlen wrote: »

Its called the Burren Farming for Conservation programme. If you google it you will get plenty of hits and articles from papers. The website is here http://www.burrenlife.com/

Short youtube clip about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5jZnwXcSMQ

I hear good things about it. There are, and will be more in the future, Agri Environmental schemes based loosely on it. I say loosely as there is no one size fits all scheme for every type of environment.

limo_100 · 12-11-2013 08:16PM

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

I hear good things about it. There are, and will be more in the future, Agri Environmental schemes based loosely on it. I say loosely as there is no one size fits all scheme for every type of environment.

can you not use conmaicne mara in the same way or do i not not have a clue what im talking bout??

Sharpshooter82 · 12-11-2013 08:18PM

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

Yeah, same as a lot of other places. The pipes are a pain, the cops were around here last year or the year before when a big piece of the hill was burnt and pipes with it.

I saw a yoke on DD, a robotic flail mower specially for slopes, any use

Have ya sorted lad....Ill call in the combat engineers

Conmaicne Mara · 12-11-2013 08:23PM

limo_100 wrote: »

can you not use conmaicne mara in the same way or do i not not have a clue what im talking bout??

Most of the Burren, I believe, is fenced. Most of the uplands of Connemara, aren't

Schemes so far would see Winter grazing in the Burren, while Summer grazing would probably be favoured on the hills. Am open to correction on any of that

redzerologhlen · 12-11-2013 08:37PM

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

Most of the Burren, I believe, is fenced. Most of the uplands of Connemara, aren't Schemes so far would see Winter grazing in the Burren, while Summer grazing would probably be favoured on the hills. Am open to correction on any of that

What makes it so successful is that ever farm has it's on individual plan tailored specifically for it. There is no one size fits all like reps or aeos. They encourage summer grazing on some of the better winterages to stop them getting too strong.

darragh_haven · 12-11-2013 08:40PM

Sharpshooter82 wrote: »

Have ya sorted lad....Ill call in the combat engineers

You'd have full time work arond here with that machine sharpshooter. She'd make land where god failed I'd say.

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