North Korea Publicly Execute Folk for watching South Korean TV

RobertKK · 11-11-2013 03:06PM

If we lived in North Korea we would put on the charade we adore the leadership, because we would be thinking of our lives and rather die naturally than be machine gunned to death or spend the rest of our lives in a concentration camp.

It is horrific what the ordinary people of that country have to endure, while over the border in the South they have one of the most advanced countries on Earth.

Just so sad and there is nothing we can do, without making things far worse.

WindSock · 11-11-2013 03:36PM

Meanwhile, it's Chocolate Stick Remembrance day in South Korea.

11-11-2013 05:48PM

http://newfocusintl.com/soap-operas-north-korea/

Interesting website by people who have escaped.. One of many articles on South Korean media.

humbert · 11-11-2013 06:02PM

Having seen South Korean tv I can kind of understand.

11-11-2013 06:05PM

ugh

"Relatives of those executed and implicated in their alleged crimes were reportedly sent to prison camps."

Grayson · 11-11-2013 08:40PM

Specialun wrote: »

They even brought the public in to watch..were they selling popcorn too

Like they have popcorn in north korea.

NuckingFacker · 11-11-2013 08:50PM

Could the US not just slap a hellfire down on him as he does a walkabout, justify it on grounds of him being a fcuking dwarf hypocrite? Or whatever. fcuk it, say it was an accident?Then when Kim jung pung the fifth or whatever incarnation of little bollix inherits the mantle, zap him too. Keep zapping them till they get the hint. If the Russians or Chinese object, tell them to ask me bollix? In this case, I reckon it's more than justified. Put the bloody drones to some good use for a change.

My name is URL · 11-11-2013 09:37PM

NuckingFacker wrote: »

Could the US not just slap a hellfire down on him as he does a walkabout, justify it on grounds of him being a fcuking dwarf hypocrite? Or whatever. fcuk it, say it was an accident?Then when Kim jung pung the fifth or whatever incarnation of little bollix inherits the mantle, zap him too. Keep zapping them till they get the hint. If the Russians or Chinese object, tell them to ask me bollix? In this case, I reckon it's more than justified. Put the bloody drones to some good use for a change.

That would be a terrible terrible idea and of literally no benefit to anyone.

For a start, you're assuming that Kim is the one running things, which is frankly absurd.. it's like saying that Queen Lizzy runs the whole show in GB, and not a very carefully planned out hierarchy. They have about 10,000,000 people available for military service, the majority of which would likely be forced to take up arms following such an event.

What happens then? Just bomb the entire populace because they're a threat to the South or its Western influences? Can you imagine the fallout from such a thing... if opposition to the war in Iraq was bad, opposition to the slaughter of millions of innocent people would be unimaginable. It'd be mutually assured destruction for all involved.. politically or otherwise.

Amirani · 11-11-2013 09:42PM

He's probably the saddest excuse for a human being that exists on this planet right now.

Zebra3 · 11-11-2013 09:52PM

c_man wrote: »

It actually has huge amounts of rare natural minerals, one company last year reckoned on six trillion dollars worth.

You'll need another stick with which to beat the west.

Yeah, there's a lot of wealth under NK, but the US learned a valuable lesson from Vietnam. Only fight wars you're fairly certain you're gonna win easily.*

NK has serious weaponry that could blow the shit out of SK and Japan, two of America's allies (before its inevitable defeat).

*Of course, nobody could account for the stupidity of those in the Bush II regime.

Infini · 11-11-2013 09:59PM

My name is URL wrote: »

They have about 10,000,000 people available for military service, the majority of which would likely be forced to take up arms following such an event.

Doesnt matter how many they got the truth is their military is antiquated soviet junk that wouldnt stand a chance against a modern army like the US if they were truly serious. Some of their equipment is so out of date that if there really WAS a war theyd be bulldozed easily. This is one of the reasons that they went for nukes as a scare factor more than anything else but even those wouldnt help em and would probably bring about their demise if actually used.

My name is URL wrote: »

What happens then? Just bomb the entire populace because they're a threat to the South or its Western influences? Can you imagine the fallout from such a thing... if opposition to the war in Iraq was bad, opposition to the slaughter of millions of innocent people would be unimaginable. It'd be mutually assured destruction for all involved.. politically or otherwise.

North ("best") Korea is probably one of the few anomalies left over from the cold war. The only reason it still exists is simply because the chinese want it because they dont want the US on their doorstep (which is ironic since the US only stayed there in the first place cos North Korea STARTED the Korean War). It wouldve collapsed outright years ago if not for them. Even so theyre a loose cannon that even the chinese wont want forever. Dont know bout western allies invading at all in the near future with the exception of a rogue nuke goin off which WOULD bring them down for certain.

Much as it would annoy everyone nothing can be done about this bat****crazy waster state even South Korea wouldnt wanna actually go to war or do anything about it in the nearterm unless

1) It eventually collapses from antiquacy and corruption
2) The chinese get fed up with them and their BS and move in and sort it out
3) They let a nuke slip out and detonate somewhere which would lead to a complete kerbstomping by the west.
4) Reunification with south korea over time as they realise being the rogue state doesnt benefit them and is leading them to their demise.

There is oppositon to war and all but god forbid if a NK nuke went off anywhere like a major population centre and it was traced to them then public support for removing that state would be practically carte blanche.

Mike 1972 · 11-11-2013 10:27PM

In the interest of balance it should be pointed out that is is also illegal for South Koreans to receive Northern broadcasts albeit with far less draconian punishment.

Deleted User wrote: »

They'e probably as bad as Nazi Germany was, but at least the Nazis were slightly good to most Germans (at least if you weren't Jewish, gay, black, etc. etc.). There's likely much much worse atrocities against their own people that aren't being leaked.

German citizens were being thrown into camps for listening to foreign radio in 1939 by 1945 they were being executed so the Nazi analogy is perfectly valid. Atrocities are no more/less atrocious when committed against ones own people.

biko wrote: »

We should have that here too, for watching English soaps.

Why English soaps specifically ? Are indigenous versions of the genre somehow more intellectually uplifting ?

Heroditas · 11-11-2013 10:31PM

danniemcq wrote: »

nope no you didn't.

I would gladly live a hundred years in this country with bertie and Biffo running the country than spending a day in a prison camp in North Korea

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Escape-Camp-14-remarkable-odyssey/dp/0330519549/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1384173204&sr=8-1&keywords=escape+from+camp+14

Good grief, what a horrible life he led until he escaped.

ectoraige · 11-11-2013 10:37PM

Niiice

NuckingFacker · 11-11-2013 10:37PM

Heroditas wrote: »

Good grief, what a horrible life he led until he escaped.

He's back, as a management consultant.

:pac:

Howard Juneau · 11-11-2013 10:41PM

"Team America, fck yeah!"

Pat Mustard · 11-11-2013 11:20PM

My name is URL wrote: »

For a start, you're assuming that Kim is the one running things, which is frankly absurd.. it's like saying that Queen Lizzy runs the whole show in GB, and not a very carefully planned out hierarchy.

Lizzie is a figurehead monarch, so the comparison isn't fair.

Kim Jong-un is the Supreme Leader of North Korea and Supreme Commander of its armed forces. The CIA notes North Korean government as a 'communist state one-man dictatorship' under Kim Jong-un.

Media reports tend to support this:

Top U.S. intelligence officials say North Korea's new leader is trying to show the world and his people that he is in charge, rather than trying to trigger military conflict.

Kim Jong-un is in charge of North Korea. He is ultimately responsible for the regime that executes its own people.

Like Nuckingfacker said, it'd be nice to drop a hellfire missile on his fat ass. Probably won't do any good, like you say, but it sure would be satisfying.

Not G.R · 11-11-2013 11:32PM

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NuckingFacker · 11-11-2013 11:45PM

Not G.R wrote: »

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I for one would like to inform Kimmy, as he well knows it, that he is a psycho, self-serving depraved little maggot who deserves to die wriggling on a large hook. I also reckon he's reading this - Kims an avid Boardsie. He's always posting in the Football forum. He's a nutter for Newcastle. Loves the Magpies.

Jonny7 · 12-11-2013 12:41AM

He's the supreme leader, and yup he is ultimately responsible - but in reality it most likely operates akin to a very high stakes juggling act between the elite, the top military brass and of course the "son of a deity" himself - all of whom know how mortal they and their families are should the **** hit the fan

Much like any cult, they have to keep the act going - the iconography, the carefully cultivated history, the portrayal of leaders as gods and so on

The bottom line is that the people are controlled effectively by fear (thanks also to modern tech) and the top level probably live in a paranoid world we can't even begin to imagine, better known generals are offed in "accidents", less known are made example of with mortars or explosives. A good purge every once in awhile seems to do wonders for extending the life of the dynasty

Famines are prob one of the few threats to the regime, however a well-timed nuclear tantrum or international incident means Pyongyang gets some lobster via private train delivery service and the intl community/whoever ships in tons of food. Although recently China along with others has put the foot down (they control virtually all gas into the country as well as 70% of trade) - so things are a little muted at the moment, hence only a small tantrum over the denial of Swiss ski lifts

Personally I see little chance of revolution -almost zero (only a dim possibility during a famine), as people are paranoid even within their own families.

Military intervention? very unlikely, even if heavily provoked would be very undesirable for obvious reasons

A coup? possible, but I would imagine things are far too controlled at the top for that. It's like Kaizer Soze, what if you miss? every generation of your family would be going to death camps. Not even Saddam had close to this level of control, although he had a penchant for chucking people alive into bags with starved feral cats which was pretty effective in itself.

Looks like the regime will just have to make moves itself to come in from the cold.

On a lighter note, marvel at the baseball sized calcium deposit on the back of Il Sung's neck that the NK press were terrified to ever photograph
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpqdyo5cbo1r1u3azo1_500.jpg

Pat Mustard · 12-11-2013 01:11AM

Jonny7 wrote: »

On a lighter note, marvel at the baseball sized calcium deposit on the back of Il Sung's neck that the NK press were terrified to ever photograph
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpqdyo5cbo1r1u3azo1_500.jpg

Holy sh1t!

'I shall call him... mini me.'

RobertKK · 12-11-2013 01:44AM

bluewolf wrote: »

ugh

"Relatives of those executed and implicated in their alleged crimes were reportedly sent to prison camps."

Yeah that is what they do.

It is common practice for whole families and their relations to end up in a concentration camp where one member of the family is deemed to have caused some offense.

seenitall · 12-11-2013 04:10AM

It all sounds so horribly, horribly, 1984. Stalin would be proud.

old hippy · 12-11-2013 01:34PM

NuckingFacker wrote: »

Could the US not just slap a hellfire down on him as he does a walkabout, justify it on grounds of him being a fcuking dwarf hypocrite? Or whatever. fcuk it, say it was an accident?Then when Kim jung pung the fifth or whatever incarnation of little bollix inherits the mantle, zap him too. Keep zapping them till they get the hint. If the Russians or Chinese object, tell them to ask me bollix? In this case, I reckon it's more than justified. Put the bloody drones to some good use for a change.

As has been pointed out on many occasions; this would plunge the region into chaos. Both Koreas, Japan, the US, Russia and China would all be dragged in, for starters. Then you'd have the party and military vying for control and as usual, who would bear the brunt of the suffering? The people.

BattleCorp · 12-11-2013 05:04PM

I'm curious to know if this story is actually fact or is it made up propaganda. I'm not saying it is false, but I have my doubts.

It seems ridiculous to me that people would be executed for watching a television programme.

Were they really executed for watching telly or was it for another reason.

Just for the record, I'm against all executions, no matter what the reasons, but I find it unbelieveable that somebody would be executed for such a trivial crime as watching telly.

old hippy · 12-11-2013 06:27PM

BattleCorp wrote: »

I'm curious to know if this story is actually fact or is it made up propaganda. I'm not saying it is false, but I have my doubts.

It seems ridiculous to me that people would be executed for watching a television programme.

Were they really executed for watching telly or was it for another reason.

Just for the record, I'm against all executions, no matter what the reasons, but I find it unbelieveable that somebody would be executed for such a trivial crime as watching telly.

You'd be surprised...

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/23/north-korea-reptile-media-kim-jongun

It really is difficult to tell

old hippy · 12-11-2013 06:28PM

Howard Juneau wrote: »

"Team America, fck yeah!"

Yeah, isn't that a bit tired now? Kinda like that Fr Ted quote whenever something Chinese makes the news...

MRnotlob606 · 12-11-2013 06:35PM

when will they come to their senses?

Howard Juneau · 12-11-2013 08:06PM

old hippy wrote: »

Yeah, isn't that a bit tired now? Kinda like that Fr Ted quote whenever something Chinese makes the news...

A classic never gets old....or....ahm...ah well, durka durka!

Neutronale · 12-11-2013 10:43PM

Specialun wrote: »

http://news.sky.com/story/1166848/north-korea-publicly-executes-80-peopleThis is crazy. They even brought the public in to watch..were they selling popcorn too

Beware of tabloids, they'll say any old sh1t to titillate or horrify people, all the better to sell papers.

NK is current enemy No. 1 or 2 depending on the day of the week, in WW1 they said the Germans were turning Belgian babies into soap :eek:

North Korea Publicly Execute Folk for watching South Korean TV

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