Love/Hate

lahalane · 11-11-2013 04:46PM

SV wrote: »

The point is if you can only play one kind of character then you're one dimensional. That's the key sign of a bad actor.

But unless hes tried and failed at another character how can we say hes unable?

I disagree with your logic by the way. If you can play a specific type of character really well then you may be called a limited actor but a bad actor seems a bit unfair?

camel jockey · 11-11-2013 04:48PM

mauzo! wrote: »

Trish is where its at, her hair this season is awful though.

Trish would be the one I least fancy, always think she looks a bit skanky.

Riskymove · 11-11-2013 04:49PM

mauzo! wrote: »

My boyfriend fancies Debbie, the red head. I hate her, terrible actress and nothing great to look at either.

Trish is where its at, her hair this season is awful though.

the Dental Nurse beat them all....

The One Who Knocks · 11-11-2013 04:50PM

MrStuffins wrote: »

What?

You might as well have called this thread "Spark plugs" or "Dishwasher".

"I've never used a dishwasher before, but has anyone ever seen the tv show Magnum P.I.?"

I hear "free beer" is another good one!

SV · 11-11-2013 05:14PM

lahalane wrote: »

But unless hes tried and failed at another character how can we say hes unable?

I disagree with your logic by the way. If you can play a specific type of character really well then you may be called a limited actor but a bad actor seems a bit unfair?

I don't agree with the claim that he is one dimensional, was just explaining the train of thought there.

Yeah well ok but in terms of acting being limited would count as being bad. Being very good at a certain type of character doesn't mean you're a good actor.

lertsnim · 11-11-2013 05:19PM

Fake Healer wrote: »

I do give out about it because it is a waste of my licience fee

This is the main problem. It is not just your licence fee. I pay it too and I enjoy the "murder porn" as you call it. Evidentially lots of other licence fee payers watch it too so you think that because you don't like it, that it should be scrapped?

Give over.

Fake Healer · 11-11-2013 05:26PM

Riskymove wrote: »

the Dental Nurse beat them all....

I'd turn lesbian for her. And I'd certainly experiment with Tommy's squeeze. And if I was to deffo to give up on the shlong, maybe Debbie because she is so dirty -- forbidden fruit you try once then deny it lol.

Fake Healer · 11-11-2013 05:39PM

lertsnim wrote: »

This is the main problem. It is not just your licence fee. I pay it too and I enjoy the "murder porn" as you call it. Evidentially lots of other licence fee payers watch it too so you think that because you don't like it, that it should be scrapped?

Give over.

Yes. I'd ban all shows made in Ireland that has excessive violence. Many of us don't want to see such messages portrayed to impressionable lower class youths. The lessers in society have it hard enough without these images being beamed into their living rooms giving their kids the idea that crime is great fun.

lahalane · 11-11-2013 05:53PM

Fake Healer wrote: »

Yes. I'd ban all shows made in Ireland that has excessive violence. Many of us don't want to see such messages portrayed to impressionable lower class youths. The lessers in society have it hard enough without these images being beamed into their living rooms giving their kids the idea that crime is great fun.

I think X-Factor and shows like that have a worse influence on children but I wouldn't call for them to be banned. The majority of viewers seem to like it though so it would be selfish of me to expect them to get rid of it.

Collie D · 11-11-2013 05:56PM

Fake Healer wrote: »

Yes. I'd ban all shows made in Ireland that has excessive violence. Many of us don't want to see such messages portrayed to impressionable lower class youths. The lessers in society have it hard enough without these images being beamed into their living rooms giving their kids the idea that crime is great fun.

Ridiculous and patronising post

patmac · 11-11-2013 06:04PM

I really enjoyed Love/Hate best thing RTE done in ages, hated Glenroe.

Fake Healer · 11-11-2013 06:05PM

lahalane wrote: »

I think X-Factor and shows like that have a worse influence on children but I wouldn't call for them to be banned. The majority of viewers seem to like it though so it would be selfish of me to expect them to get rid of it.

Hardly selfish to moot the promotion of good moral fiber. Xfactor is a vile show as well, another bad influence. No wonder the younger generation are such a drug/ alcohol/ loose moral addicted lot. Less pornography and a return to good decent values, I say.

lahalane · 11-11-2013 06:09PM

Fake Healer wrote: »

Hardly selfish to moot the promotion of good moral fiber. Xfactor is a vile show as well, another bad influence. No wonder the younger generation are such a drug/ alcohol/ loose moral addicted lot. Less pornography and a return to good decent values, I say.

Not selfish no, just pointless. You could oppose the X-Factor with the resurrected help of Che Guevara, John Lennon, Gandhi and Genghis Khan and you'd still get nowhere in your pursuit of ridding it from our screens.

Now that I mentioned Genghis Khan, I was just wondering what kind of TV shows were being shown that encouraged him to go a little bit mad that time?

Fake Healer · 11-11-2013 06:10PM

Collie D wrote: »

Ridiculous and patronising post

Is it really so patronizing to care, is it? I care. I care. True, I forage a lonely path in the battle against societies desperation for cheap thrills, easy drugs and promiscuous ways -- but even a lonely swimmer must swim through the swirling waves to reach the shore.

BuilderPlumber · 11-11-2013 06:20PM

Irish Guitarist wrote: »

The Glenroe theme tune struck fear in my heart. It signified that the weekend was pretty much over and I would soon have to go to bed before getting up the next morning for another week of school.

No one in my house liked it but for some reason known only to my father he turned on RTE at about 8.20 PM to be ready for the 9.00 PM news.

Love/Hate is an excellent show and especially season 3 was very very brave coming from here.

I thought Glenroe was a pretty poor effort even back then. Yet everyone watched it at the time ... in the company of Miami Vice, Hill St Blues, Dallas, TJ Hooker, etc, etc, etc. ALL shows far closer to Love/Hate than Glenroe!!

If Ireland had written a show like Love/Hate in the 1980s, it would not get into production here. Yet, while Ireland was happy to show the violent American shows, it never toyed with the idea of doing one themselves back then.

Yet, Glenroe was the Love/Hate of its time regarding being Sunday's most popular programme.

Fake Healer · 11-11-2013 06:21PM

lahalane wrote: »

Not selfish no, just pointless. You could oppose the X-Factor with the resurrected help of Che Guevara, John Lennon, Gandhi and Genghis Khan and you'd still get nowhere in your pursuit of ridding it from our screens.

Now that I mentioned Genghis Khan, I was just wondering what kind of TV shows were being shown that encouraged him to go a little bit mad that time?

He was a fan of avant garde violent (pre road) street theater. Many eminent historical scholars would agree that this was the earliest form of television without a screen. During some of the most hideous blood letting shows the young Genghis - or Ghengo, as his Irish pen pals called him, the young Mongolian would let his mind get drawn into the fantasy being played out in front of him. Prior to that Ghengo played with dolls and planned a Forest Gump style run to promote world peace. Sadly the violent plays warped his mind, and it wasn't long before he was chopping off actors heads and impaling them on sticks if they came out with Fran like wooden performances.

I am pie · 11-11-2013 06:22PM

Fake Healer wrote: »

Is it really so patronizing to care, is it? I care. I care. True, I forage a lonely path in the battle against societies desperation for cheap thrills, easy drugs and promiscuous ways -- but even a lonely swimmer must swim through the swirling waves to reach the shore.

Some good foraging under bridges I hear...

lahalane · 11-11-2013 06:23PM

Fake Healer wrote: »

He was a fan of avant garde violent (pre road) street theater. Many eminent historical scholars would agree that this was the earliest form of television without a screen. During some of the most hideous blood letting shows the young Genghis - or Ghengo, as his Irish pen pals called him, the young Mongolian would let his mind get drawn into the fantasy being played out in front of him. Prior to that Ghengo played with dolls and planned a Forest Gump style run to promote world peace. Sadly the violent plays warped his mind, and it wasn't long before he was chopping off actors heads and impaling them on sticks if they came out with Fran like wooden performances.

God, that's awful. Imagine how bad he would have been if he had been on drugs, watching pornography and drinking alcohol like all youngsters are today. We're lucky in a way.

I am pie · 11-11-2013 06:29PM

Disappointing season for me, 1,2 & 3 improved steadily but the plot in this one wasn't well developed. It felt like the premise was to have everything close in and around Nidge and have him emerge triumphantly in an insane sort of paranoid way but with big trouble ahead. All based on keeping the series going. I just felt that Carolan didn't totally pull it off this time, I reckon more episodes would have helped him develop it better, or setting up the main storyline quicker, episodes 4 &5 just felt like things were starting to get interesting, ep 6 comes along and it's all over. The pace of this series was a bit off.

I did enjoy it, but remain slightly disappointed.

Fake Healer · 11-11-2013 06:36PM

lahalane wrote: »

God, that's awful. Imagine how bad he would have been if he had been on drugs, watching pornography and drinking alcohol like all youngsters are today. We're lucky in a way.

Well, it was more peaceful back then. The youngsters were more evolved than they are today. I blame Ming Flanagan TBH.

Ash.J.Williams · 11-11-2013 06:39PM

mauzo! wrote: »

My boyfriend fancies Debbie, the red head. I hate her, terrible actress and nothing great to look at either.

Trish is where its at, her hair this season is awful though.
I was delighted when Debbie died

you should murder every girl your fella looks at or even mentions!

BuilderPlumber · 11-11-2013 06:47PM

patmac wrote: »

I really enjoyed Love/Hate best thing RTE done in ages, hated Glenroe.

I agree 100%. I think that Glenroe is the fallout from having too many morals when it comes to drama. Glenroe would not have gained any attention whatsoever in any other marketplace. It was tame beyond belief.

The themes in that series included 2 farmers arguing about an open farm, a farmer dumping spuds against an office door, and various characters proposing and waiting to see if it is accepted! That was the idea of a season finale cliffhanger to rival who shot JR, etc.!!

Love/Hate was made without any of those constraints. Other attempted like The Big Bow Wow were tame because of the Glenroe curse: Irish TV did not allow one to go too far!! Season 3 of Love/Hate blew such barriers away.

Of course, in the real world the violence portrayed is terrible. But, it happens! Gangland killings like those shown through the 4 seasons of Love/Hate where such favourite characters as Darren, John Boy, Dano, Wayne, Stumpy, and Git all received violent ends reflect exactly what happens in the real gangland world.

Glenroe was really The Riordans updated. There was some tenuous character link between the two through some intermediate show that also featured the Dinny and Miley characters. But while even British similar soaps like Emmerdale updated, Glenroe seemed stuck in an era even before its time.

Fake Healer · 11-11-2013 06:47PM

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

you should murder every girl your fella looks at or even mentions!

Nice body on Trish, but the lower class accent on her would turn milk sour.

Sunnyisland · 11-11-2013 06:49PM

Fake Healer wrote: »

Nice body on Trish, but the lower class accent on her would turn milk sour.

Lower class accent :pac: who the the **** are you, yer highness.

lertsnim · 11-11-2013 06:49PM

Fake Healer wrote: »

Hardly selfish to moot the promotion of good moral fiber. Xfactor is a vile show as well, another bad influence. No wonder the younger generation are such a drug/ alcohol/ loose moral addicted lot. Less pornography and a return to good decent values, I say.

I bet you blame Marilyn Manson for the shootings at Columbine.

Fake Healer · 11-11-2013 06:50PM

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

I agree 100%. I think that Glenroe is the fallout from having too many morals when it comes to drama. Glenroe would not have gained any attention whatsoever in any other marketplace. It was tame beyond belief.

The themes in that series included 2 farmers arguing about an open farm, a farmer dumping spuds against an office door, and various characters proposing and waiting to see if it is accepted! That was the idea of a season finale cliffhanger to rival who shot JR, etc.!!

Love/Hate was made without any of those constraints. Other attempted like The Big Bow Wow were tame because of the Glenroe curse: Irish TV did not allow one to go too far!! Season 3 of Love/Hate blew such barriers away.

Of course, in the real world the violence portrayed is terrible. But, it happens! Gangland killings like those shown through the 4 seasons of Love/Hate where such favourite characters as Darren, John Boy, Dano, Wayne, Stumpy, and Git all received violent ends reflect exactly what happens in the real gangland world.

Glenroe was really The Riordans updated. There was some tenuous character link between the two through some intermediate show that also featured the Dinny and Miley characters. But while even British similar soaps like Emmerdale updated, Glenroe seemed stuck in an era even before its time.

OMG!!!! You just mentioned the Big Bow Wow - I was addicted to all 13 episodes it was so bad. It was supposed to portray the new modern Celtic Tiger Ireland, and what puked onto the screen was the most pathetic, pretentious pile of garbage so terrible, it made FAIR CITY look good. I'd love RTE to do a rerun of that: its so awful its brilliant.

poundapunnet · 11-11-2013 06:53PM

Fake Healer wrote: »

Nice body on Trish, but the lower class accent on her would turn milk sour.

Nordy accent in real life apparently

I think her hair is class

lertsnim · 11-11-2013 06:56PM

poundapunnet wrote: »

Nordy accent in real life apparently I think her hair is class

Indeed. So she must be doing a great job if Mary Whitehouse is put off by her lower class Dublin accent.

Fake Healer · 11-11-2013 06:59PM

lertsnim wrote: »

I bet you blame Marilyn Manson for the shootings at Columbine.

No, I blame Dylan Klebald and Eric Harris for that little stunt.

Fake Healer · 11-11-2013 07:07PM

realies wrote: »

Lower class accent :pac: who the the **** are you, yer highness.

No, just somebody fortunate to have been born to a middle class birth. I was not putting down lower class types, but it is possible for them to take elocution lessons; its not illegal. My brother knew this lovely looking lower class girl who wanted to get into stage acting; she was very good by all accounts, but she had this dreadful "Howaya" accent that proved a major obstruction for her. Long story short, she was advised to take elocution lessons to learn how to speak normally and pronounce her words. Like for example: "Are you working today, Samantha?" not "Airr yis wookin today or wha, Sammy?" Worked out well for her, I believe.

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