Love/Hate

ford fiesta

I've never watched even a second of this (which seems to glorify all that's good in Ireland today), though does anyone old enough here to remember it miss Glenroe?

wazky

Would ya feck off with Glenroe.

Tolka row was the shit.

WoollyRedHat

I remember it... god be the days when there were only 4 channels in the house.


Guy who played Miley died last year, he seemed like a lovely man.

Wattle

Dunno about glorify. Reflect a certain reality maybe. Also let's not forget that it's fictional.

Temptamperu

I don't like things so i am going to start discussing them in the hopes they go away.

MrStuffins

What?


You might as well have called this thread "Spark plugs" or "Dishwasher".


"I've never used a dishwasher before, but has anyone ever seen the tv show Magnum P.I.?"

Birroc

I have noticed that many Dubs have developed a distaste for Love/Hate in the last season or so because it portrays the capital as a bit of a dump.

I really like the show now even though I had to catch up on season 1 & 2 when I started watching season 3. Excellent acting all round.

Glenroe was good too!

Duiske

ford fiesta wrote: »

though does anyone old enough here to remember it miss Glenroe?

Yea, it used to break the time between episodes of Mart and Market.

Sunnyisland

The rerdons that's were it all started, get up the yard there Benjy.

Muise...

ah why'd ya have to mention Glenroe? Lovely sunny Sunday evening and I haven't done my homework yet. The tin whistle of doom is calling.

Mariasofia

Im not happy that I was duped into opening this thread .

Ruu

Time for school the next day and not a bit of homework done! :eek:

biko

OP, why is this thread called Love/Hate when you're asking about Glenroe?


OT, I watch neither.

Diabhal Beag

You know who remembers Glenroe? Yer joe.ie types.

funt cucker

I watched one episode of love/hate because the lads were raving about it in work. I didn't see what all the fuss was about. Seemed like every day life in a lot of locations in Dublin.

I must admit the lads in work are boggers and use the work "fierce" when describing a lot of things.

Sir Osis of Liver.

biko wrote: »

OP, why is this thread called Love/Hate when you're asking about Glenroe?

Not a bad idea actually for season 5.
What if Nidge and the lads were to relocate to Glenroe til the heat dies down with the RA and the cops?

spank_inferno

I too have never seen so much as 1 frame of this show.

The way the media w*nk on about it you would think it was The Wire + Breaking Bad x 10.

Besides I use tv not to see the dregs of dublin society.
If I want to see it I can just go outside.

Ruu

Sir Osis of Liver. wrote: »

Not a bad idea actually for season 5.
What if Nidge and the lads were to relocate to Glenroe til the heat dies down with the RA and the cops?

Not at all, Father Devereux would have them run out of town!

suicide_circus

MrStuffins wrote: »

What?


You might as well have called this thread "Spark plugs" or "Dishwasher".


"I've never used a dishwasher before, but has anyone ever seen the tv show Magnum P.I.?"

Chief Wiggum P.I. will return.........right now!

rossie1977

a love/hate glenroe crossover series would be money.

miley becomes a regular at nidges "club" in town while tommy starts a relationship with fidelma during a time she spent working in prison.

fran and blackie connors start an illegal importation business and dick moran becomes debbies solictor only to become romantically involved with her which leads to all sorts of problems in the byrne household

NoClues

If only there was some type of television forum on boards.ie upon which to discuss such issues.

FearDark

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

Guy who played Miley died last year, he seemed like a lovely man.

Yeah he died last year in 2010.

Hownowcow

I don't watch Love/Hate and I didn't watch Glenroe or the Riordans.

The Riordans however gave rise to the phrase, "the smell of Benjy".

Over thirty years after the demise of the show the phrase is still in use. For that reason alone I regard the Riordans as superior to the other two.

FloatingVoter

Hownowcow wrote: »

I don't watch Love/Hate and I didn't watch Glenroe or the Riordans.

The Riordans however gave rise to the phrase, "the smell of Benjy".

Over thirty years after the demise of the show the phrase is still in use. For that reason alone I regard the Riordans as superior to the other two.

Coola Boola

BTW: Fran is actually the product of Miley's close friendship with a sheep.

denhaagenite

Muise... wrote: »

ah why'd ya have to mention Glenroe? Lovely sunny Sunday evening and I haven't done my homework yet. The tin whistle of doom is calling.

Ah cmere I haven't done my tin whistle practice either :rolleyes:

Sunglasses Ron

Sir Osis of Liver. wrote: »

Not a bad idea actually for season 5.
What if Nidge and the lads were to relocate to Glenroe til the heat dies down with the RA and the cops?

Fran's caravan must be somewhere near Glenroe for a start :pac:

BillyMitchel

Does this really have to happen on AH every Sunday?!

Seaneh

wazky wrote: »

Would ya feck off with Glenroe.

Tolka row was the shit.

My grand-aunt wrote that show \o/

paulbok

rossie1977 wrote: »

a love/hate glenroe crossover series would be money.

miley becomes a regular at nidges "club" in town while tommy starts a relationship with fidelma during a time she spent working in prison.

fran and blackie connors start an illegal importation business and dick moran becomes debbies solictor only to become romantically involved with her which leads to all sorts of problems in the byrne household

TV3 are looking up your number as we speak to offer you a job as a scriptwriter, that sounds better than half the tosh they show.

Citroen2cv

Well holy god

Sir Osis of Liver.

Sir Osis of Liver. wrote: »

Not a bad idea actually for season 5.
What if Nidge and the lads were to relocate to Glenroe til the heat dies down with the RA and the cops?

They could end the show with Nidge and friends going down, showing crime doesn't pay, then make an off-shoot prison programme called Joy/Sorrow.

ford fiesta

Seriously I can't believe that there hasn't been more outrage from the public over this programme, It looks like a load of ****e to me.

Sunglasses Ron

ford fiesta wrote: »

Seriously I can't believe that there hasn't been more outrage from the public over this programme, It looks like a load of ****e to me.

Outrage why?

ford fiesta

Sunglasses Ron wrote: »

Outrage why?

Because it's ****e!!

_Kaiser_

I'm with ya OP.. I've never watched Love/Hate at all myself

Or Glenroe.. or RTE generally. Apparently RTE 1 HD launched today according to the Satellite forum. News to me.

lertsnim

Kaiser2000 wrote: »

Apparently RTE 1 HD launched today according to the Satellite forum. News to me.

On Saorview it has at least

BuilderPlumber

Love/Hate and Glenroe are possibly the two most opposite shows you could imagine! They demonstrate how Ireland has changed. Let's take a quick look at what both have in common:

Both appeared on RTE 1 on Sundays, were among the most popular shows of their time, and both feature Wicklow as a setting. Both had iconic characters that the actors were called e.g. Miley, Dinny v Nidge, Fran. That's where the similarities end.

But the worlds of Nidge and Miley are universes apart. While Glenroe was being filmed in the 1980s and early 1990s, drug dealers were something seen in American cop series like Miami Vice and also appeared in the storylines of other US dramas like Dallas. Characters like Frank Mosca or Tommy McKay were NOT even imaginable on Irish dramas in 1988: instead, it was Dinny and Miley fighting over spuds! If Love/Hate was made in 1980s Ireland, it would be considered futuristic and/or American!! Not that it would even be sanctioned in those times here! Stuart Carolan would end up writing for or creating a series for US or UK TV.

Yet, both are part of who we are as a nation and it shows the change that has taken place. It would be naive to say drug dealers did not exist in Ireland in the 1980s (they did) but TV-wise they were strictly something associated with the US.

The road that lead from Glenroe to Love/Hate is littered with many dramas both good and bad. Fair City was an important stepping stone and this soap is always at its best when there is a sinister drug dealer-type or other violent character (Billy Meehan, Terence, Marty Halpin, Sylvester Garrigan, Thomas Flynn, Paddy Bishop) lurking about. Making the Cut aka DDU was another important link and was a cops v gangster attempt from the 1990s that was quite good but not as daring as Love/Hate (I think the guy who does IRA chief Tony in Love/Hate was the main cop in it?). Roddy Doyle's books and their film versions like The Commitments and TV series versions like Family were other important links. On the lesser side, we had to endure The Big Bow Wow (a miss: a drugs drama that does not know if it is that or an urban Glenroe but failing as either?) but the journey from the days of Glenroe to Love/Hate is worth it when we arrived in the era of King Nidge.

Annasopra

ford fiesta wrote: »

I've never watched even a second of this (which seems to glorify all that's good in Ireland today), though does anyone old enough here to remember it miss Glenroe?

Sunday evening bliss!

BuilderPlumber

Sir Osis of Liver. wrote: »

Not a bad idea actually for season 5.
What if Nidge and the lads were to relocate to Glenroe til the heat dies down with the RA and the cops?

Fran's caravan!!!

Mint Aero

*tin whistle music*

Open farm
Begorrah
Open farm miley?
Well holy god
I'm thinking open farm, where's dinny?
Uh well uhhh ummm over there
Dinny...
Wha?
Open farm?
Miley..
Uhhhh ummmm urrrr
Your idea miley?
Urrrrr begorrah ummmm
It was mine dinny.....open farm
Teasy?
Wha?
Did you hear this?
Wha?
Open farm
Ooooooooo
Well that's settled open farm open farm open farm, come on miley
Well holy god

*tin whistle music*

BuilderPlumber

Mint Aero wrote: »

*tin whistle music*

Open farm
Begorrah
Open farm miley?
Well holy god
I'm thinking open farm, where's dinny?
Uh well uhhh ummm over there
Dinny...
Wha?
Open farm?
Miley..
Uhhhh ummmm urrrr
Your idea miley?
Urrrrr begorrah ummmm
It was mine dinny.....open farm
Teasy?
Wha?
Did you hear this?
Wha?
Open farm
Ooooooooo
Well that's settled open farm open farm open farm, come on miley
Well holy god

*tin whistle music*

And today's Glenroe (rebranded Glen/Roe): Miley (played by a new actor obviously!) is out planting spuds on his land and then digs up a dead body. He says 'well holy god, did you ever see the bate a dat!' and goes to the lad across the way in the caravan he rents a site to and asks him does he know anything about it and he says: 'put it back in the ground'.

Fran then takes out his gun and shoots Miley and buries him too. Nidge comes out and says 'ah J@zuz Fran why did you go and have to do that for!!' Fran replies: 'in case he is some type of a Slab bleedin' Murphy and he recognises Git'!!

Episode ends:

Next episode: Glen/Roe

Fran: I guess that oul' farmer is gone to visit that holy god he keeps on about. IRA or not, I can't be takin' any bleedin' chances.
Nidge: And who owns the land, Fran.
Fran: I guess we do, Nidgie. Let's get it legally sorted. We need to have the deeds to this immediately.
Nidge: I'll sort this out, ok. No worries. I'll get onto my solicitor about it right now and it will be ok, right. No worries Frano!
Fran: Ok. Coolaboola. The Nidge Weasel!

To be continued!

Fake Healer

Its a horrible programme, and should be got rid of. It sets a bad example to young people. Don't get me wrong, the acting is fine, the story lines, the writing excellent - just a dreadfully depressing show full of horrible people. Sadly, RTE is pathetic station with woeful re-runs, stupid home grown drek like Republic Of Telly and dreadful de-commissioned American sit coms even the Yanks don't want. And Love/Hate is all they have. Waste of a budget; I'd sak everybody in RTE and go about making decent shows on a budget. Do we really want to watch awful talk shows with Brendan and Miriam and Ryan having z list guests on. Even the premiership is gone from RTE.

lahalane

The people who feel the need to mention that they don't watch Love/Hate are becoming more annoying than the people that keep going on about the show.

I'm surprised people are surprised at the hype. It's an Irish show and this is Ireland. Of course it's going to be talked about a lot. Does it also surprise you that people tend to discuss the results of the Irish soccer team instead of the Canadians?

Mint Aero

lahalane wrote: »

The people who feel the need to mention that they don't watch Love/Hate are becoming more annoying than the people that keep going on about the show.

We're just amazed at what people find so entertaining. First they were wearing pj's to Tescos then watching Mrs Brownes Boys and now this. They'll have a new silly phase soon for us to be bewildered by

lahalane

Mint Aero wrote: »

We're just amazed at what people find so entertaining.

It's a long time since I've been amazed by what people seem to find entertaining

Fake Healer

Horrible show. Of course such violence has its fanboys -- but its an awful concept. Just swearing, drugs, killing, shooting, beating people up. If RTE must waste the license fees, at least make a nice drama with a bit if heart and humour - not this murder porn.

Fake Healer

lahalane wrote: »

The people who feel the need to mention that they don't watch Love/Hate are becoming more annoying than the people that keep going on about the show.

I'm surprised people are surprised at the hype. It's an Irish show and this is Ireland. Of course it's going to be talked about a lot. Does it also surprise you that people tend to discuss the results of the Irish soccer team instead of the Canadians?

Sir, I don't watch that terrible murder fest, but I do catch the odd bit of it here and there to stay informed at what is trending. I do give out about it because it is a waste of my licience fee. The Nidge character is disgusting -- how anybody could find him entertaining is beyond me. Or that Fran guy, who acts the same role whatever low budget drek hires him. Talk about no range. And even better, he thinks he he's off to Hollywood to be a big star lol. He's Fair City fodder, nothing else. You'll see him pop up on FC in a year or two when L/H is got rid of.

Ihatecuddles

I started watching Love/Hate last week, caught up last night. I really enjoy it

Never seen Glenroe and havent a notion what its about

Ihatecuddles

Fake Healer wrote: »

Sir, I don't watch that terrible murder fest, but I do catch the odd bit of it here and there to stay informed at what is trending. I do give out about it because it is a waste of my licience fee. The Nidge character is disgusting -- how anybody could find him entertaining is beyond me. Or that Fran guy, who acts the same role whatever low budget drek hires him. Talk about no range. And even better, he thinks he he's off to Hollywood to be a big star lol. He's Fair City fodder, nothing else. You'll see him pop up on FC in a year or two when L/H is got rid of.

I love Nidge, he's my favourite. Fran is a great character too.

Opinions are like arseholes, everyone has one!

Spring Onion

Fake Healer wrote: »

Sir, I don't watch that terrible murder fest, but I do catch the odd bit of it here and there to stay informed at what is trending. I do give out about it because it is a waste of my licience fee. The Nidge character is disgusting -- how anybody could find him entertaining is beyond me. Or that Fran guy, who acts the same role whatever low budget drek hires him. Talk about no range. And even better, he thinks he he's off to Hollywood to be a big star lol. He's Fair City fodder, nothing else. You'll see him pop up on FC in a year or two when L/H is got rid of.

You sir know nothing about acting. Nothing. Both actors will be successful, I have no doubt.

MrStuffins

Fake Healer wrote: »

Sir, I don't watch that terrible murder fest, but I do catch the odd bit of it here and there to stay informed at what is trending. I do give out about it because it is a waste of my licience fee. The Nidge character is disgusting -- how anybody could find him entertaining is beyond me. Or that Fran guy, who acts the same role whatever low budget drek hires him. Talk about no range. And even better, he thinks he he's off to Hollywood to be a big star lol. He's Fair City fodder, nothing else. You'll see him pop up on FC in a year or two when L/H is got rid of.

You know this isn't the Joe Duffy show right?