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  • #842
    [Jackass]
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    Just a minor thing, but Sam Coughlin Murray is a wing not centre.

    Is the Sean O'Brien in the Connacht Academy originally a Leinster schools player? He was under 20's last season but I seem to recall he was affiliated with Leinster at the time, or was he always Connacht?


  • #843
    niallerm
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    Always connacht, wouldnt consider him a huge loss though..


  • #844
    The Lost Sheep
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    [Jackass] wrote: »
    Just a minor thing, but Sam Coughlin Murray is a wing not centre.

    Is the Sean O'Brien in the Connacht Academy originally a Leinster schools player? He was under 20's last season but I seem to recall he was affiliated with Leinster at the time, or was he always Connacht?
    Yeah I may edit that about SCM
    Sean O Brien is from Galway. Had been in school in Galway and has won an All Ireland u17 clubs title when playing with Galwegians.


  • #845
    P.Walnuts
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    niallerm wrote: »
    Always connacht, wouldnt consider him a huge loss though..

    Really?

    He was pretty much Roscrea's best player (unless I am mixing him up with someone else)


  • #846
    The Lost Sheep
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    niallerm wrote: »
    Always connacht, wouldnt consider him a huge loss though..
    Really?
    P.Walnuts wrote: »
    Really?

    He was pretty much Roscrea's best player (unless I am mixing him up with someone else)
    Pretty much best player with all sides he's played for be that Galwegians underage sides, calasanctius school in Oranmore, Ireland u19(v v impressive in their International last season v England)

    He was the main player for Cistercian last year.
    He is injured at moment and on crutches and not sure when he'll be back playing. Not in a cast but has been hobbling on crutches past while


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  • #847
    its_phil
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    niallerm wrote: »
    Always connacht, wouldnt consider him a huge loss though..

    Loss? I don't think he was ever Leinsters to lose. We'll have to disagree but he is very highly rated in Connacht and is currently training with the seniors.


  • #848
    Stanza2
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    niallerm wrote: »
    Always connacht, wouldnt consider him a huge loss though..

    Everyone's entitled to their opinion I suppose ! but he is a Galway man and valued greatly in Connacht. He didn't do too bad for Roscrea in the schools cup last year, shame that he is not up to your standard. We will just have to make do with what we have.


  • #849
    niallerm
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    Stanza2 wrote: »
    Everyone's entitled to their opinion I suppose ! but he is a Galway man and valued greatly in Connacht. He didn't do too bad for Roscrea in the schools cup last year, shame that he is not up to your standard. We will just have to make do with what we have.

    If that was the case half your team wouldn't be Leinster men.. Sean o brien is fine, nothing special, a 6'4 lock.. Rory Moloney is a better talent tho


  • #850
    Stanza2
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    niallerm wrote: »
    If that was the case half your team wouldn't be Leinster men.. Sean o brien is fine, nothing special, a 6'4 lock.. Rory Moloney is a better talent tho

    Don't fully understand what you mean there Niall? You are right Rory is a very good talent and we are mighty pleased to have him.


  • #851
    its_phil
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    niallerm wrote: »
    If that was the case half your team wouldn't be Leinster men..

    Meaning?


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  • #852
    mogwai81
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    John Madigan is listed as 119kg ( 18st 10Ib ) on the Munster website. I know the weights of the players can be fairly inaccurate, but usually the reality is that the player is actually heavier. If this is his true weight that would make him Munsters heaviest lock and second heaviest player.
    I know there's a lot more to a lock then size and weight, but it's an impressive size for a 19 year old. Can anybody in the know confirm this.


  • #853
    Aiden7
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    There are some monster second rows in the academy's at the moment Leinster have Thornbury 6'8 17+st, Munster have O'Shea 6'9 18st, Madigan 6'7 19st and McCarthy 6'6 18st, any other players i have forgotten? Does anyone know about the Ulster, Connacht or Exiles second rows?


  • #854
    niallerm
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    Kieran Treadwell is an exile second row to keep an eye on.. although its rumored he might have been poached by england..


  • #855
    Aiden7
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    niallerm wrote: »
    Kieran Treadwell is an exile second row to keep an eye on.. although its rumored he might have been poached by england..

    Has he definitely chosen England over Ireland yet? How good could he be?


  • #856
    niallerm
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    Aiden7 wrote: »
    Has he definitely chosen England over Ireland yet? How good could he be?

    no clue, just been rumored.

    impossible to predict how good he might be in the future


  • #857
    Aiden7
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    Might be worth getting him in one of the academy's wouldn't be Munster as they already have 3 second rows in the academy, maybe Ulster or Leinster


  • #858
    Morf
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    Aiden7 wrote: »
    Might be worth getting him in one of the academy's wouldn't be Munster as they already have 3 second rows in the academy, maybe Ulster or Leinster

    Apart from Ruddock who was the last Exile Leinster had?


  • #859
    niallerm
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    Aiden7 wrote: »
    Might be worth getting him in one of the academy's wouldn't be Munster as they already have 3 second rows in the academy, maybe Ulster or Leinster

    pretty heavily involved with Harlequins..

    Ulster are the strongest team for going after Exiles though, with Taggart, Joyce and Dow.


  • #860
    niallerm
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    Morf wrote: »
    Apart from Ruddock who was the last Exile Leinster had?

    probably looking at Doran-Jones. Of course Ciaran Ruddock too and Maguire.


  • #861
    Aiden7
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    Morf wrote: »
    Apart from Ruddock who was the last Exile Leinster had?

    Was it that giant prop Maguire who was so huge he even made Tony Buckley look normal sized


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  • #862
    Morf
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    Aiden7 wrote: »
    Was it that giant prop Maguire who was so huge he even made Tony Buckley look normal sized

    Ah yes, second in bench behind CJ Van Der Linde.

    Career highlight that.


  • #863
    niallerm
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    Jake Caulfield released by Ulster academy, back over in england now.


  • #864
    BallHandling Hooker
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    This story seems to suggest that Caulfield is only over for a year, and will most likely return. http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/Irish-prop-Caulfield-remain-Albion/story-19927325-detail/story.html


  • #865
    niallerm
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    BallHandling Hooker wrote: »
    This story seems to suggest that Caulfield is only over for a year, and will most likely return. http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/Irish-prop-Caulfield-remain-Albion/story-19927325-detail/story.html

    Couple of inaccuracies in that, never was a munster player and never did three years in the academy setup.. was in his second year before being released..


  • #866
    The Lost Sheep
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    niallerm wrote: »
    Couple of inaccuracies in that, never was a munster player and never did three years in the academy setup.. was in his second year before being released..
    Article states that Caulfield had spent 3 years in academys. It doesnt state where he spent the 3 years. Caulfield had spent a couple of seasons in London Irish Academy set up which is where the 3 years will have came from


  • #867
    The Lost Sheep
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    niallerm wrote: »
    Kieran Treadwell is an exile second row to keep an eye on.. although its rumored he might have been poached by england..
    Wouldnt say he was poached by England but he has chosen to go down the English route by choosing to play England under 18s
    Aiden7 wrote: »
    Has he definitely chosen England over Ireland yet? How good could he be?
    He Is named in their under 18 side that will face Australia Schools Wednesday week. Doesn't mean he has chosen England over Ireland. Playing 18s doesn't tie you to another country


  • #868
    PlayerTrader13
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    Leinster's academy mid season update:
    Ed Byrne[2/20] - recently returned from injury, missed 1st half of season
    Peter Dooley[1/19] - been playing decent amount for Lansdowne this season, should feature for irish 20s.
    Bryan Byrne[2/20] - been playing decent amount for Clontarf this season.
    James Tracy[3/22] - still transitioning from prop, made debut for Leinster of the bench recently.
    Tadhg Furlong[3/21] - 3rd choice TH for Leinster now, made some strides this season, rumored to have signed a full contract.
    Tadhg Beirne[2/21] - currently injured, played some for Leinster A.
    Ross Molony[1/19] - feature for UCD 20s and should be key member or Irish 20s.
    Gavin Thornbury[2/20] - missed most of the season with injury.
    Conor Gilsenan[3/21] - has played a lot for UCD in the AIL, currently injured.
    Dan Leavy[2/19] - has played a lot for UCD in the AIL, favourite to be Irish 20s captain.
    Josh Van Der Flier[2/20] - missed 1st half of season, recently returned.
    Jack Conan[2/21] - missed start of season with injury but has really impressed for Old Belvo in the AIL.
    Luke McGrath[3/20] - played sparingly for UCD and Leinster, rumored to have signed a full contract.
    Cathal Marsh[2/21] - been playing for Marys in the AIL
    Steve Crosbie[1/20] - been playing for Old Belvo in the AIL
    Jordan Coghlan[3/21] - missed part of season with injury but playing some AIL now with UCD.
    Tom Daly[1/20] - missed part of season with injury but playing some AIL now with Lansdowne
    Tom Farrell[1/20] - missed most of the season with injury
    Colm O Shea[3/22] - has been playing AIL regularly with Clontarf
    Adam Byrne[1/19] - missed most of the season with injury
    Andrew Boyle[3/22] - has been playing AIL regularly with UCD
    Sam Coghlan Murray[3/21] - has been playing AIL regularly with UCD
    Billy Dardis[1/18] - has been playing AIL regularly with UCD 20s


  • #869
    The Lost Sheep
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    Munster update
    http://www.munsterrugby.ie/news/12595.php#.Usx1z7iYbMw
    Some taken from the above report. Rest my own work.

    Shane Buckley - played all B&I Cup games this season otherwise Starting each week in AIL for Garryowen
    Rory Burke - in Irish 20s squad. Made AIL debut with Cork Con a few weeks back and played a few AIL games since then
    Jack Cullen - played for Munster 19s v Australia and been called up to Irish 20s squad. Played small bit with Bruff in AIL
    Brian Haugh - playing a lot with Young Munster in AIL.
    Johnny Holland - pushing into some Rabo match squads but still mainly playing AIL
    Niall Horan - playing AIL with Shannon
    David Johnson - playing a lot with UL Bohemians in AIL. Involved with Irish 20s
    Niall Kenneally - made first start for Munster A last month. Mainly playing AIL with Cork Con
    Gearoid Lyons - playing often with Shannon in AIL. Involved with Irish 20s
    John Madigan - a few weeks away from playing with a groin injury that's kept him out all season.
    Sean McCarthy - hurt his foot and he'll be out for a period of 4-6 weeks
    Harry McNulty - playing AIL regularly for Garryowen
    Darren Moroney - back this month from long term hamstring injury
    Ryan Murphy -
    Jack O Donoghue - involved with Irish 20s and been playing the whole time with Bohs in AIL
    Darren O Shea - playing some B&I Cup rugby. Playing AIL with Dolphin regularly
    Greg O Shea - groin injury versus Australia for Munster 19s but back recently for Shannon in AIL
    Rory Scannell - playing AIL with Dolphin.
    Darren Sweetnam - playing regularly with Dolphin In AIL as well as played 2 full games in B&I Cup scoring 1 try
    Alex Wootton - playing whole time with Garryowen in AIL. Made B&I Cup debut last month


  • #870
    USIrishYa
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    any idea on who will be leaving the academies this summer and who will be joining them?


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  • #871
    The Lost Sheep
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    USIrishYa wrote: »
    any idea on who will be leaving the academies this summer and who will be joining them?
    Munster
    Out
    Darren O Shea --> Gloucester
    Harry McNulty though not certain on that
    In
    likely to be: Dan Goggin. Frank Bradshaw Ryan is a definite contender. Steve McMahon could go In
    Max Abbott is a class act but with Munster having quite a few hookers already and age profile young enough he may not this year


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