Ad for JobBridge water meter "job" gets taken down

Boombastic · 08-11-2013 10:38AM

Dravokivich wrote: »

What was the position for?

senior executive ceo, only 45 years of experience needed and educated to doctorate level

BillyMitchel · 08-11-2013 10:39AM

Dravokivich wrote: »

What was the position for?

Customer Service/Sales I think.

Average 20/25k jobs.

Edit: but obviously they weren't paying ANYTHING!

Disgraceful

Dravokivich · 08-11-2013 11:01AM

BillyMitchel wrote: »

Customer Service/Sales I think.

Average 20/25k jobs.

Edit: but obviously they weren't paying ANYTHING!

Disgraceful

That is nuts. It'd take no more than 6 weeks for the average person to be competent in such a position.

constance tench · 08-11-2013 11:16AM

At least they are honest...they do call it a scheme:rolleyes:

sunflower27 · 08-11-2013 11:29AM

I did a jobridge internship back in 2011 when the scheme was new.

It was meant to be marketing but I was doing all the ****ty work no-one else would do. I stuck with it because I thought it would be good on my CV, but looking back that was the wrong thing to do. I lost so much respect for myself accepting what I did.

Within a month or two of finishing, the group that hired me were advertising again for the same role under a different business name.

It took THREE emails to Jobbridge to get them to take the job down. THREE. And only then when I threatened to go to the media about it.

Jobbridge will take any job that is offered to them. There is no vetting. As long as they get people off the live register, that is all they care about.

Walked past my local FAS office yesterday and saw the window plastered with Jobridge vacancies. It is an absolute disgrace the greed of some people.

Why doesn't the press pick up on this and do a big expose. It would make a fantastic documentary!!

TwoShedsJackson · 08-11-2013 11:33AM

Deleted User wrote: »

A company in my town told everyone they're taking 10% paycuts and those who refuse will be let go and "replaced". The abuse of Job Bridge is unbelievable. It's amazing too that European companies will still come to Ireland to hire graduates for their mainland operations yet companies with a base here claim they can't afford it.

It's illegal to be made redudant and 'replaced' within six months if the job still exists. If this happens, get them on to NERA about it.

zl1whqvjs75cdy · 08-11-2013 11:39AM

Jesus didn't realise how much of a farce this jobsbridge **** is. I presume its only being allowed to continue because it benefits politicians in some way.

strobe · 08-11-2013 11:59AM

Where are the unions? Why aren't they calling for a general strike and boycotting of jobsbridge? The ****ing cheek of them parading up and down the streets patting themselves on the backs, teary eyed about 1913. Spineless weasels. Larkin would be rolling in his ****ing grave if they hadn't encased him in carbonite and stood him on o connel St.

Hello_MrFox · 08-11-2013 12:04PM

Is there someone who polices the Jobs bridge initiative, ie, assessing whether a job is suitable to be placed on the scheme or if it should be a fully paid position? I wonder what the criteria is for these jobs.

Boombastic · 08-11-2013 12:05PM

TwoShedsJackson wrote: »

It's illegal to be made redudant and 'replaced' within six months if the job still exists. If this happens, get them on to NERA about it.

they get round this by changing the name of the role

aidan24326 · 08-11-2013 12:09PM

In fairness JobBridge wasn't the worst idea as it first started out. For a young graduate struggling to find work it made some sense in terms of gaining experience. A company that didn't necessarily have the budget and/or requirement for a full time salaried role could take you in, give you some much-needed training and experience and even if they didn't keep you on themselves you've added something very useful to your cv. That was the idea at least.

The problem is that it far outgrew its initial purpose and you had every employer jumping on the bandwagon looking for free labour, so that you could gain experience in the highly sought-after skills of opening boxes and stacking shelves. Maybe learn how to make a quarter pounder with cheese.

The government have done nothing to intervene in this fiasco as it is helping to artificially massage the unemployment figures and allows them to bleat about job creation when in reality they've made little or no impact on the unemployment situation since they took office.

sunflower27 · 08-11-2013 12:15PM

The government should be hanging their heads in shame for what this scheme is doing to people looking for a fair day's pay.

Augmerson · 08-11-2013 02:12PM

sunflower27 wrote: »

The government should be hanging their heads in shame for what this scheme is doing to people looking for a fair day's pay.

They literally no shame Sunflower27. They will do whatever it takes to look good in the eyes of the IMF/EU.

08-11-2013 02:21PM

TwoShedsJackson wrote: »

It's illegal to be made redudant and 'replaced' within six months if the job still exists. If this happens, get them on to NERA about it.

As above, they can change job titles. Also they've been shuffling people around branches and the like for a year now, gotten rid of the senior management figures and the like, they can create new "roles" for the interns. Actually I wonder if interns count as taking up a "position".

TwoShedsJackson · 08-11-2013 02:24PM

Deleted User wrote: »

As above, they can change job titles. Also they've been shuffling people around branches and the like for a year now, gotten rid of the senior management figures and the like, they can create new "roles" for the interns. Actually I wonder if interns count as taking up a "position".

They can, and if you can prove that the new job is fundamentally the same as the one you were let go from, you've a case for unfair dismissal.

anncoates · 08-11-2013 02:28PM

Ireland:

Get angry at your taxes subsidizing social welfare.

Don't get angry at your taxes subsidizing the wages of profitable companies.

Stabshauptmann · 08-11-2013 02:35PM

Been discussed to death.

There are some real jobs on jobsbridge, and some pointless ones that will give you no new skills and no hope of employment with that company.

Simply dont do the **** ones. Jobbridge is completely optional. Simples.

Many ppl I know have jobs now because of the experience they got on jobsbridge

Soft Falling Rain · 08-11-2013 04:21PM

Stabshauptmann wrote: »

Many ppl I know have jobs now because of the experience they got on jobsbridge

How many of them were fortunate enough to be taken on by their host company? In the grand scheme of things, if you're cut loose after 9 months, the experience you've acquired won't mean much in such a competitive market.

Canard · 08-11-2013 05:08PM

anncoates wrote: »

Ireland:

Get angry at your taxes subsidizing social welfare.

Don't get angry at your taxes subsidizing the wages of profitable companies.

What? This whole thread is about people angry about JobsBridge.

Detective Mittens · 08-11-2013 05:18PM

Now that the precedent of internships have been set, its not going away, recession or no recession. People aren't getting paid for work any more, they are paid with work. Asking for a wage on top of the job you have been given would of course be considered selfish.

These companies aren't charities, if they cant stay afloat without paying their workers they should fail.

Wossack · 08-11-2013 05:20PM

Hello_MrFox wrote: »

Is there someone who polices the Jobs bridge initiative, ie, assessing whether a job is suitable to be placed on the scheme or if it should be a fully paid position? I wonder what the criteria is for these jobs.

there used to be a pretty competent person vetting all the positions, but their internship ran out, and the new guy is useless

Dravokivich · 08-11-2013 05:25PM

Canard wrote: »

What? This whole thread is about people angry about JobsBridge.

Yeah and their point was it's only the occasional thread. You'll see the other issues they referenced more regularly here and in the media. this is constantly overlooked.

08-11-2013 05:53PM

TwoShedsJackson wrote: »

They can, and if you can prove that the new job is fundamentally the same as the one you were let go from, you've a case for unfair dismissal.

And if they weren't on full-time contracts?
Anyway it's the kind of job they can easily shift people around both in what they do and in which branch they work so it wouldn't be that hard to waffle around.
All well and good having a case (which I don't think they would have), losing one's job right now isn't an option for a lot of people. The only option they have is to lose their job and then sue, not exactly ideal.

BillyMitchel · 08-11-2013 06:04PM

donkeyoaty0099 wrote: »

Jesus didn't realise how much of a farce this jobsbridge **** is. I presume its only being allowed to continue because it benefits politicians in some way.

Nah donkey you are missing the big picture. It's allowed continue so the live register looks like its coming down.

I'd love to know the real figures, month by month of people that actually get proper jobs and not community employment, JobBridge and people the leaving the country.

the_barfly1 · 08-11-2013 06:17PM

Soft Falling Rain wrote: »

Surely there's some kind of condition in place that forbids this?

At the very least, I know that when I was doing my internship, if I was directly hurting the hours of paid staff I'd be isolated and hounded out of the place.

the employers don't give a ****. And the interns don't get much hassle because the rest of the (paid) staff are hardly there anymore.

ted1 · 08-11-2013 08:11PM

bigblackmug wrote: »

Expecting the post in 12 months time from Ted1 saying " I used to work/specialise in metering..."

Whys that big black mug?
Were actually booming in the last few years.

oceanman · 08-11-2013 08:42PM

anncoates wrote: »

Ireland:

Get angry at your taxes subsidizing social welfare.

why?

NuckingFacker · 08-11-2013 08:51PM

ted1 wrote: »

I work/ specialise in metering. This would be good experience for a unemployed person. Private companies generally pay 750 a day for people to fit meters.

A person doing this should ensure they learn how to correctly fit meters for different size pipes.

Umm yeah. Trouble is, after the nine months, just how much demand will there be for, err, water meters, considering the fcuking things will all be installed. This is the worst, dopiest, most odious, scheming, sneaky, dirty, rotten, undermining, shytebag of a racket IMO. Jobbridge is the master idea of utter, utter cnuts. It boils my pi55. I pay my workers, I pay my taxes, and theirs, and I have to compete with fcukers paying €50 a week?? Because I'm too decent to exploit workers as free skivvies? Absolute scumbaggery as far as I am concerned.

ted1 · 08-11-2013 08:56PM

NuckingFacker wrote: »

Umm yeah. Trouble is, after the nine months, just how much demand will there be for, err, water meters, considering the fcuking things will all be installed. This is the worst, dopiest, most odious, scheming, sneaky, dirty, rotten, undermining, shytebag of a racket IMO. Jobbridge is the master idea of utter, utter cnuts. It boils my pi55. I pay my workers, I pay my taxes, and theirs, and I have to compete with fcukers paying €50 a week?? Because I'm too decent to exploit workers as free skivvies? Absolute scumbaggery as far as I am concerned.

Plenty of meters being installed in factories all around the country for sub metering different supplies. There's plenty of jobs for people with the right experience. Providing its a proper interim and had a road map with regards learning skills it would be of benefit

bigblackmug · 08-11-2013 10:37PM

ted1 wrote: »

Whys that big black mug?
Were actually booming in the last few years.

you obviously don't know the first thing about the commoditization of skills or is it something that'll never happen to you because you're just too clever.

anyhow I'm unfollowing this thread as it has all been said before but ask your politician about abuse of jobbridge next time he comes knocking on your door.

Ad for JobBridge water meter "job" gets taken down

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