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  • #182
    wexie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,478 ✭✭✭wexie


    Seaneh wrote: »
    No, your opinion is invalid, you voted for Finna Fail.

    And here we have it people, the hallmark of any debating champion....


  • #183
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Not in this thread yet. Funny that you don't address the rest, at least you're honest.

    Ah, we are suspending habeas corpus, my silence convicts me.

    So would you like to explain how exactly watching The Sopranos or playing GTA (originally primarily made by a UK company don'tchaknow) somehow undermines a dislike or distaste for actual (i.e., real-life) gun culture and high murder rates?

    I don't suppose too many PETA advocates enjoy bullfighting.

    Most people simply consume the faux violence without this self-righteous bleating about how terrible the entire US culture has become. Not seeing the hypocrisy? Oh well, never mind. Dexter is on next.


  • #184
    Seaneh
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    wexie wrote: »
    And wrong again....


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

    Do you actually check anything you say or do you just presume to be right?

    Did you willingly ignore the word "developed" from the sentence you quoted?

    The US is 12th in the list and NONE of the countries above it are developed economies!


  • #185
    czx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 544 ✭✭✭czx


    Seaneh wrote: »
    No, your opinion is invalid, you voted for Finna Fail.

    Nom.

    I didn't though, whilst you have admitted voting for Sinn Féin


  • #186
    Timmyctc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,825 ✭✭✭Timmyctc


    wexie wrote: »
    And wrong again....


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

    Do you actually check anything you say or do you just presume to be right?

    He said gun crime not homocide/ death rate, And Developed Countries


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  • #187
    wexie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,478 ✭✭✭wexie


    COYVB wrote: »
    Key word in his post is developed. I can only see developing countries above the USA there

    I think that's very much open to debate.


  • #188
    Seaneh
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    wexie wrote: »
    And here we have it people, the hallmark of any debating champion....

    I'm actually just throwing something back at CZX he has a habit of trying to do to me.

    The weirdo follows me around boards posting "Seaneh voted for Sein Feinn" as if it has any ****ing relevance to the price of turnips.


  • #189
    czx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 544 ✭✭✭czx


    Seaneh wrote: »
    Did you willingly ignore the word "developed" from the sentence you quoted?

    The US is 12th in the list and NONE of the countries above it are developed economies!

    What do you only care about developed countries? More people die in developing countries so more outrage, no?


  • #190
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    COYVB wrote: »
    Key word in his post is developed. I can only see developing countries above the USA there

    Parts of the US are developing countries...we do actually have a neighbourhood around here called the "War Zone".

    We have a fcking drugs war killing 100,000 people not four hour's drive from my house ffs.

    (facepalm)


  • #191
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    wexie wrote: »
    And wrong again....


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

    Do you actually check anything you say or do you just presume to be right?
    How many do you count above America?
    MadsL wrote: »
    I don't suppose too many PETA advocates enjoy bullfighting.

    Most people simply consume the faux violence without this self-righteous bleating about how terrible the entire US culture has become. Not seeing the hypocrisy? Oh well, never mind. Dexter is on next.
    Bullfighting as an example of fictional violence? What a retarded thing to say.


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  • #192
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Seaneh wrote: »
    Did you willingly ignore the word "developed" from the sentence you quoted?

    The US is 12th in the list and NONE of the countries above it are developed economies!

    Maybe Paraguay? There we have it, USA are only second, move along everyone.


  • #193
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    czx wrote: »
    Nom.

    I didn't though, whilst you have admitted voting for Sinn Féin

    They never had any guns though...


  • #194
    Seaneh
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    wexie wrote: »
    I think that's very much open to debate.

    No it's not.

    Which of Honduras, El Salvador, Jamaica, Swaziland, Guatamala, Colombia, South Africa, Brazil, Panama, Uruguay and Mexico are developed economies?


    Brazil is a rapidly developing economy but still has massive poverty, lack of access to education, etc, etc, etc, it's still a long way off being a developed economy.

    I also said guncrime, not gun-deaths.

    But sure, you just go on ahead trying to stir the topic the direction you want it instead of the direction it's actually going.


  • #195
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Bullfighting as an example of fictional violence? What a retarded thing to say.

    Sorry, left out movie. Meant to say bullfighting movie. Pain pills, my excuse for today.


  • #196
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    MadsL wrote: »
    Pain pills, my excuse for today.

    Don't worry, I'm sure you'll have another one tomorrow.
    As for using PETA as an example of how people should follow their "principles", well, keep banging that drum if you like.


  • #197
    wexie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,478 ✭✭✭wexie


    Seaneh wrote: »

    But sure, you just go on ahead trying to stir the topic the direction you want it instead of the direction it's actually going.

    What direction would that be Seanie?

    Are you finally going to tell me what my agenda is?


  • #198
    Seaneh
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Don't worry, I'm sure you'll have another one tomorrow.
    As for using PETA as an example of how people should follow their "principles", well, keep banging that drum if you like.

    Yeah, PETA are dickheads, what a crap example.


  • #199
    czx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 544 ✭✭✭czx


    COYVB wrote: »
    Key word in his post is developed. I can only see developing countries above the USA there

    Are there any developed countries with a population larger than the US?


  • #200
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Don't worry, I'm sure you'll have another one tomorrow.

    Yes I have about 6 left in the prescription. :)

    As for using PETA as an example of how people should follow their "principles", well, keep banging that drum if you like.

    Don't want to counter the point I see...


  • #201
    Seaneh
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    wexie wrote: »
    What direction would that be Seanie?

    Are you finally going to tell me what my agenda is?

    Anything but debating the realities of gun laws (or lack thereof) in the US and the effect it has on America's murder rate and American society as a whole.

    Because, well, that's a slam dunk on the side of "gun control works".


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  • #202
    Skylinehead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    czx wrote: »
    Are there any developed countries with a population larger than the US?

    That list is death rate, not number of deaths, so population is irrelevant.


  • #203
    wexie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,478 ✭✭✭wexie


    Seaneh wrote: »
    Anything but debating the realities of gun laws (or lack thereof) in the US and the effect it has on America's murder rate and American society as a whole.

    Because, well, that's a slam dunk on the side of "gun control works".


    You poor poor fella....you obviously have severe reading and understanding difficulties.

    Where have you seen me see anything along those lines? If you'd been paying attention you'd have actually seen me say I don't agree with the gun laws in the US at all.

    Would you like me to go find the quote for you?


  • #204
    czx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 544 ✭✭✭czx


    Skylinehead wrote: »
    That list is death rate, not number of deaths, so population is irrelevant.

    Population size is always relevant


  • #205
    wexie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,478 ✭✭✭wexie


    wexie wrote: »

    While I wouldn't necessarily agree with gun's being quite so available in the US I don't subscribe to the idea that all Americans are gun-toting-bloodthirsty-lunatics just waiting for the first opportunity to shoot someone.


    There, I've found it for you. Save ya the hassle like


  • #206
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Seaneh wrote: »
    Anything but debating the realities of gun laws (or lack thereof) in the US and the effect it has on America's murder rate and American society as a whole.

    Because, well, that's a slam dunk on the side of "gun control works".

    What would you know about US gun laws, sure I just had to school you on them.

    So tell me, what's the correlation between gun laws and murder rate? Chicago and Detroit have some of the strictest gun controls and one of the highest murder rates in the US.


  • #207
    Seaneh
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    czx wrote: »
    Are there any developed countries with a population larger than the US?

    If you take the EU as a whole, it's over twice the population of the US.

    But as another poster stated, it's per 100,000 people, not total volume, so population is irrelevant.


  • #208
    Seaneh
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    MadsL wrote: »
    What would you know about US gun laws, sure I just had to school you on them.

    So tell me, what's the correlation between gun laws and murder rate? Chicago and Detroit have some of the strictest gun controls and one of the highest muder rates in the US.

    You schooled me on background checks for handguns, big ****ing whoop.

    The 3 states with the highest murder rates have some of the laxest ownership laws, so that kind of torpedoes your argument.


  • #209
    wexie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,478 ✭✭✭wexie


    Seaneh wrote: »
    If you take the EU as a whole, it's over twice the population of the US.

    But as another poster stated, it's per 100,000 people, not total volume, so population is irrelevant.


    Hmmmm....possibly.

    However look at the centers of where all the gun crime occurs.
    Then look at the population density of those areas.

    I don't think it's quite that simple.


  • #210
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    MadsL wrote: »
    Don't want to counter the point I see...

    What's your point? That fiction and reality are the same thing?


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  • #211
    Skylinehead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    czx wrote: »
    Population size is always relevant

    Go on...


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