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Teen Seeking Help After Car Accident Rang Doorbell, Was Shot In The Head

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  • #152
    Seaneh
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    czx wrote: »
    Thereby invalidating your previous point. It may make up 5% of the planet but it makes up more than 5% of threads

    If you can prove that shootings in the US making up more than 5% of the threads on after hours, I'll give you €100.

    Because there isn't a ****ing chance in hell that it's even close to 100th of 1%.


  • #153
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    MadsL wrote: »
    Huh?

    I'm not making the argument that Video games and TV cause shootings - read what I said, I'm talking about people slamming US gun culture whilst without a blink gobbling up fictional representations of it.

    That's the cultural dissonance being tuned out.

    Bull****. I love having little chats with you on here because you start in a position and then lie, misrepresent, throw around idiotic comparisons and contradict yourself as things go on, it's wonderful really.


    By your same logic the fact that I have an interest in WWII means that for me to dislike the fact that it happened is me showing some kind of dissonance?


  • #154
    wexie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,478 ✭✭✭wexie


    Seaneh wrote: »
    If she was with other people at least ONE of the reports would have stated as much.

    Which reports?

    There's been a very limited release of information from the police and all the other information has been from the family (hardly an unbiased source of information now is it?)

    So go on.....based on the FACTS there is absolutely no telling what's happened.

    It's entirely possible that this girl was an innocent victim.....just as it's entirely possible she wasn't


  • #155
    Seaneh
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    Timmyctc wrote: »
    According to MadsL's article


    :pac:

    Oh, I was going by the UNODC's figures.

    Which actually gives Ireland a murder rate of 1.2 per 100,000.


  • #156
    wexie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,478 ✭✭✭wexie


    Seaneh wrote: »
    "The Republic had 1.59 murders per 100,000 people"
    Compared to the US, 4.7 murders per 100,000, that's pretty ****ing good going.
    Seaneh wrote: »
    This thread isn't about murder rate, it's about a teenage girl being shot in the head after knocking on someones door.

    right....hang on...now

    Can we get this straight? Which was it?

    Will I go back to Wikipedia and drag up the numbers for Greenland again?


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  • #157
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    moc moc a moc wrote: »
    Someone's ignorance of a foreign country's laws could hardly be described as 'staggering'. Just because you have some kind of bizarre hard-on for the US (to the extent of jumping to its defence when some random punter on the internet slags it off?? :confused:) doesn't mean anyone else on this forum should be expected to.

    It is staggering when they claim to have knowledge of those laws and are in fact almost entirely wrong.


  • #158
    Seaneh
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    wexie wrote: »
    Which reports?

    There's been a very limited release of information from the police and all the other information has been from the family (hardly an unbiased source of information now is it?)

    So go on.....based on the FACTS there is absolutely no telling what's happened.

    It's entirely possible that this girl was an innocent victim.....just as it's entirely possible she wasn't


    It's far more probable that she is innocent.


  • #159
    czx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 544 ✭✭✭czx


    Seaneh wrote: »
    If you can prove that shootings in the US making up more than 5% of the threads on after hours, I'll give you €100.

    Because there isn't a ****ing chance in hell that it's even close to 100th of 1%.

    Of gun related threads. People care more about gun crime in the US than elsewhere.

    ********************************


  • #160
    Seaneh
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    wexie wrote: »
    right....hang on...now

    Can we get this straight? Which was it?

    Will I go back to Wikipedia and drag up the numbers for Greenland again?

    I was responding directly to Mad's post where the tried to paint Ireland as some sort of killing field compared to the US, and pointing out he's talking nonsense as always.


    While you're getting the stats for Greenland there, find out how many of the were firearm related, because then it might be ****ing relevant to the thread.


  • #161
    wexie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,478 ✭✭✭wexie


    Seaneh wrote: »
    It's far more probable that she is innocent.


    possibly....who knows....

    But you know what Seanie?

    Out here...in the real world, with the grownups....we like to deal with FACTS....rather than suppositions.

    But you just continue with your mindless hysteria and unfounded nonsense.

    I'll be over here minding my own business.


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  • #162
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Bull****. I love having little chats with you on here because you start in a position and then lie, misrepresent, throw around idiotic comparisons and contradict yourself as things go on, it's wonderful really.

    Lie? Steady on, where have I lied?

    By your same logic the fact that I have an interest in WWII means that for me to dislike the fact that it happened is me showing some kind of dissonance?

    More if you were to utterly despise British imperialist culture but had a weakness for the film Zulu. ;)


  • #163
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    wexie wrote: »
    possibly....who knows....

    But you know what Seanie?

    Out here...in the real world, with the grownups....we like to deal with FACTS....rather than suppositions.

    But you just continue with your mindless hysteria and unfounded nonsense.

    I'll be over here minding my own business.

    Unarmed teenage girl shot in the head. That's a fact.


  • #164
    Seaneh
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    czx wrote: »
    Of gun related threads. People care more about gun crime in the US than elsewhere.

    ********************************

    That's because gun crimes are more common in the US than in any other developed country in the world, genius.


  • #165
    wexie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,478 ✭✭✭wexie


    Seaneh wrote: »
    I was responding directly to Mad's post where the tried to paint Ireland as some sort of killing field compared to the US, and pointing out he's talking nonsense as always.


    While you're getting the stats for Greenland there, find out how many of the were firearm related, because then it might be ****ing relevant to the thread.

    Oh right....cause guns kill people deader than other things....I forgot about that....

    :rolleyes:


  • #166
    diomed
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    wexie wrote: »
    Which reports?

    There's been a very limited release of information from the police and all the other information has been from the family (hardly an unbiased source of information now is it?)
    I agree with you wexie. The police will spin it in favour of the shooter.


  • #167
    MadsL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Seaneh wrote: »
    I was responding directly to Mad's post where the tried to paint Ireland as some sort of killing field compared to the US, and pointing out he's talking nonsense as always.

    Tell me more about those States that do not require background checks as we are bringing up nonsense.

    As we know people never get shot in Ireland, nor do they own guns.


  • #168
    wexie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,478 ✭✭✭wexie


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Unarmed teenage girl shot in the head. That's a fact.

    And the only fact so far.


  • #169
    Timmyctc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,825 ✭✭✭Timmyctc


    wexie wrote: »
    Oh right....cause guns kill people deader than other things....I forgot about that....

    :rolleyes:

    or because the thread is about murder by firearms.....


  • #170
    czx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 544 ✭✭✭czx


    Seaneh wrote: »
    That's because gun crimes are more common in the US than in any other developed country in the world, genius.

    How much more common? More common than all others put together? I see very little gun crime threads that aren't related to the US. People don't care as much if the US isn't involved


  • #171
    Seaneh
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    wexie wrote: »
    Oh right....cause guns kill people deader than other things....I forgot about that....

    :rolleyes:


    The thread is about a gun related death.

    Gun related deaths are relevant to the thread.


    Typical ****e of shifting goalposts and trying to rail road the topic into irrelevance to suit an agenda.


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  • #172
    Timmyctc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,825 ✭✭✭Timmyctc


    MadsL wrote: »
    Tell me more about those States that do not require background checks as we are bringing up nonsense.

    As we know people never get shot in Ireland, nor do they own guns.


    Everywhere


  • #173
    Seaneh
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    czx wrote: »
    How much more common? More common than all others put together? I see very little gun crime threads that aren't related to the US. People don't care as much if the US isn't involved


    Sure who cares what you think?


    You voted for Finna Fail.


  • #174
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    MadsL wrote: »
    Lie? Steady on, where have I lied?
    Not in this thread yet. Funny that you don't address the rest, at least you're honest.
    More if you were to utterly despise British imperialist culture but had a weakness for the film Zulu. ;)
    So would you like to explain how exactly watching The Sopranos or playing GTA (originally primarily made by a UK company don'tchaknow) somehow undermines a dislike or distaste for actual (i.e., real-life) gun culture and high murder rates?


  • #175
    Seaneh
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    MadsL wrote: »
    Tell me more about those States that do not require background checks as we are bringing up nonsense.

    As we know people never get shot in Ireland, nor do they own guns.

    Actually, for the amount of firearms owned in Ireland, compared to the US, practically nobody gets shot, you're right there.


  • #176
    crybaby
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 895 ✭✭✭crybaby


    The greatest country in the world


  • #177
    wexie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,478 ✭✭✭wexie


    Seaneh wrote: »
    That's because gun crimes are more common in the US than in any other developed country in the world, genius.

    And wrong again....


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

    Do you actually check anything you say or do you just presume to be right?


  • #178
    czx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 544 ✭✭✭czx


    Seaneh wrote: »
    Sure who cares what you think?


    You voted for Finna Fail.

    I was just pointing out that the US gets a disproportionate amount of attention from people.


  • #179
    wexie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,478 ✭✭✭wexie


    Seaneh wrote: »
    The thread is about a gun related death.

    Gun related deaths are relevant to the thread.


    Typical ****e of shifting goalposts and trying to rail road the topic into irrelevance to suit an agenda.

    What agenda would that be Seanie?

    Go on....enlighten me as to what my agenda is?

    I would love to hear it from you in those clear and concise statements you're so good at.


  • #180
    Seaneh
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    czx wrote: »
    I was just pointing out that the US gets a disproportionate amount of attention from people.

    No, your opinion is invalid, you voted for Finna Fail.


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  • #181
    COYVB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭COYVB


    wexie wrote: »
    And wrong again....


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

    Do you actually check anything you say or do you just presume to be right?

    Key word in his post is developed. I can only see developing countries above the USA there


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