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Pussy riot girl - gone missing?

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  • #32
    Muise...
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    seanie_c wrote: »
    The same girl was part of Voina which staged what was called 'an orgy' in the Museum of Biology, Moscow.

    Another girl was recorded masturbating with Chickens in a supermarket.

    They're just a bunch of idiots.
    If someone did the same thing in Ireland, that's what they're be called...idiots.

    But because this girl is eye candy, everyone is up in arms about it.

    They're not being called idiots in Russia though - they're called criminals and have been sentenced to harsh prison terms.


  • #33
    Sir Digby Chicken Caesar
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,554 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    Muise... wrote: »
    They're not being called idiots in Russia though - they're called criminals and have been sentenced to harsh prison terms.

    you think somebody could sexually assault a chicken in Ireland and avoid prison?


  • #34
    Muise...
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »
    you think somebody could sexually assault a chicken in Ireland and avoid prison?

    it was dead, so not exactly an applicable charge. :D


  • #35
    seanie_c
    Closed Accounts Posts: 295 ✭✭seanie_c


    Muise... wrote: »
    They're not being called idiots in Russia though - they're called criminals and have been sentenced to harsh prison terms.

    And do you believe for a second they wouldn't receive a similar sentence in our country?

    In your own opinion, what would be an acceptable punishment for their actions?


  • #36
    seanie_c
    Closed Accounts Posts: 295 ✭✭seanie_c


    Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »
    you think somebody could sexually assault a chicken in Ireland and avoid prison?

    Should have been clear it was a chicken wing or drumstick....


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  • #37
    Muise...
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    seanie_c wrote: »
    And do you believe for a second they wouldn't receive a similar sentence in our country?

    In your own opinion, what would be an acceptable punishment for their actions?

    a fine.


  • #38
    Marcus Halberstram
    Closed Accounts Posts: 338 ✭✭Marcus Halberstram


    seanie_c wrote: »
    And do you believe for a second they wouldn't receive a similar sentence in our country?

    In your own opinion, what would be an acceptable punishment for their actions?

    An interview on the Late Late.


  • #39
    seanie_c
    Closed Accounts Posts: 295 ✭✭seanie_c


    Muise... wrote: »
    a fine.

    What if I took a shyte on an altar in a church and said it was in protest of Catholic Church covering up Child Abuse?

    Would a fine be acceptable in your opinion?

    What I urinated all over the sacristy?

    This would be a form a protest...surely the free world couldn't send me to jail for that.


  • #40
    beertons
    Hosted Moderators Posts: 23,458 ✭✭✭✭beertons


    Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »
    you think somebody could sexually assault a chicken in Ireland and avoid prison?


    Apt user name there.


  • #41
    Muise...
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    seanie_c wrote: »
    What if I took a shyte on an altar in a church and said it was in protest of Catholic Church covering up Child Abuse?

    Would a fine be acceptable in your opinion?

    What I urinated all over the sacristy?

    This would be a form a protest...surely the free world couldn't send me to jail for that.

    yes,

    yes,

    that would be an ecumenical matter,

    the free world would prosecute you for criminal damage, not the objective behind it.


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  • #42
    Potatoeman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,070 ✭✭✭Potatoeman


    Muise... wrote: »
    they were protesting the power the church has over the state in Russia - you know, like lots of people in Ireland have been doing for decades. I'm not even Russian and I can see their point.

    Its a church, protest outside.


  • #43
    April O Neill
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,305 ✭✭✭April O Neill


    LookingFor wrote: »
    Putin and Orthodox Church Cement Power in Russia
    Muise... wrote: »
    they were protesting the power the church has over the state in Russia - you know, like lots of people in Ireland have been doing for decades. I'm not even Russian and I can see their point.

    This thread has been illuminating to a political philistine such as myself.

    Thanks! :)


  • #44
    goose2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,798 ✭✭✭goose2005


    seanie_c wrote: »
    And do you believe for a second they wouldn't receive a similar sentence in our country?
    Yes, they would be exiled to the punishment camps of Leitrim for sure
    In your own opinion, what would be an acceptable punishment for their actions?
    A caution? A small fine?


  • #45
    Potatoeman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,070 ✭✭✭Potatoeman


    goose2005 wrote: »
    Yes, they would be exiled to the punishment camps of Leitrim for sure

    A caution? A small fine?

    There is also a cultural element. If they did this is a Mosque in Pakistan they would get a pretty severpunishment too.


  • #46
    Muise...
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭Muise...


    Potatoeman wrote: »
    There is also a cultural element. If they did this is a Mosque in Pakistan they would get a pretty severpunishment too.

    why would they protest against Russian church-state collusion & repression in a Pakistani Mosque? :confused:


  • #47
    Femme_Fatale
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    cletus van damme wrote: »
    putin is a god among men.
    he has rebuilt russia into a superpower once again.
    You can turn your nose up all you like with your leftie ideals but he gets **** done and has made mother russia great
    Lol, concern about a hardline, repressive figure is "leftie". Why is it "leftie" to be concerned about these things? I mean, it wouldn't be "leftie" to be concerned about the very same things going on under a communist regime.
    I couldn't give a **** if he is "a god among men" (no he isn't), has rebuilt "Mother" Russia and gets sh1t done. And no he hasn't made Russia great. He has made it a scary place for a lot of people to live in.
    But if you're cool with that because it's kinda bad-ass and no-nonsense (same could be said about Hitler) that's you I suppose.

    (Anyone who goes on about Godwin - zzzzzzz; Hitler/nazis - relevant sometimes).


  • #48
    GalwayGuy2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,269 ✭✭✭GalwayGuy2


    I couldn't give a **** if he is "a god among men" (no he isn't), has rebuilt "Mother" Russia and gets sh1t done. And no he hasn't made Russia great. He has made it a scary place for a lot of people to live in.

    Don't get me wrong, Putin is a dictator (Although, not the worst)

    But it has to be said, that he did take over when Russia was going to hell. Not saying it would be better if he was or wasn't there, but you can see why he has his supporters in Russia.


  • #49
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,408 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Mince Pie wrote: »
    Nadezhda Tolokonnikova was being transferred to a different prison and now gone missing.
    Where is she? I really hope there isn't a tragic end to this story.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/10427025/Missing-Pussy-Riot-prisoner-Nadezhda-Tolokonnikova-being-taken-to-Siberia.html

    She was kidnapped by Roma.
    seanie_c wrote: »
    Freedom like what? Masturbating with chickens in a Tesco or Lidl?
    Staging an orgy in the Dublin Museum?

    Maybe I should drop down to the local cathedral and shyte on the Altar in protest of Catholic Church covering up child abuse?

    How do you define Freedom.

    Freedom is a word constantly used in the west when criticizing other nations but there's no freedom in any country.

    Name one country where you have total freedom.
    I'm trying to be objective here, I really don't care about Pussy Riot or Russia, I'm more concerned about my own country.


    At least you're allowed say the church is full of paedophiles and that being gay isn't a horrible abnormality. Hell, even wearing a rainbow badge would get you locked up there.

    BTW, the argument you're making could be extended to north korea. Sure they're great, I mean it's not like we have real freedom either.


  • #50
    goose2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,798 ✭✭✭goose2005


    Femme_Fatale wrote: »
    Lol, concern about a hardline, repressive figure is "leftie". Why is it "leftie" to be concerned about these things? I mean, it wouldn't be "leftie" to be concerned about the very same things going on under a communist regime.
    I couldn't give a **** if he is "a god among men" (no he isn't), has rebuilt "Mother" Russia and gets sh1t done. And no he hasn't made Russia great. He has made it a scary place for a lot of people to live in.
    But if you're cool with that because it's kinda bad-ass and no-nonsense (same could be said about Hitler) that's you I suppose.

    (Anyone who goes on about Godwin - zzzzzzz; Hitler/nazis - relevant sometimes).

    It's also kind of funny how he seems to have forgotten that Putin was literally a card-carrying communist and a KGB agent.


  • #51
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,408 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    And if anyone thinks the protest isn't art, they should look at this .

    I don't get it either but apparently it's art. If that's art, I think singing in a church would do.


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  • #52
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,408 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    goose2005 wrote: »
    It's also kind of funny how he seems to have forgotten that Putin was literally a card-carrying communist and a KGB agent.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Putin#KGB_career
    Putin joined the KGB in 1975 upon graduation, and underwent a year's training at the 401st KGB school in Okhta, Leningrad. He then went on to work briefly in the Second Chief Directorate (counter-intelligence) before he was transferred to the First Chief Directorate, where among his duties was the monitoring of foreigners and consular officials in Leningrad.[39][40]
    From 1985 to 1990, the KGB stationed Putin in Dresden, East Germany.[41] Following the collapse of the communist East German government, Putin was recalled to the Soviet Union and returned to Leningrad, where in June 1991 he assumed a position with the International Affairs section of Leningrad State University, reporting to Vice-Rector Yuriy Molchanov.[40] In his new position, Putin maintained surveillance on the student body and kept an eye out for recruits. It was during his stint at the university that Putin grew reacquainted with his former professor Anatoly Sobchak, then mayor of Leningrad.[42]
    Putin finally resigned from the active state security services with the rank of lieutenant colonel on 20 August 1991 (with some attempts to resign made earlier),[42] on the second day of the KGB-supported abortive putsch against Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev.[43] Putin later explained his decision: "As soon as the coup began, I immediately decided which side I was on", though he also noted that the choice was hard because he had spent the best part of his life with "the organs"


  • #53
    sbsquarepants
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,810 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    seanie_c wrote: »
    Another girl was recorded masturbating with Chickens in a supermarket.
    .

    Chickens masturbate?:D


  • #54
    RDM_83 again
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,116 ✭✭✭RDM_83 again


    Muise... wrote: »
    yes,

    yes,

    that would be an ecumenical matter,

    the free world would prosecute you for criminal damage, not the objective behind it.

    Bull****, in many civilized countries they could face severe charges, incitement to hatred (you can't burn a flag on facebook) as well as probably being added to the sex offenders list if there was a child in anyway close at all.
    They probably wouldn't get as harsh a sentence and the conditions they would serve it in would be better but they wouldn't be branded heroes or given a slap on the wrist.


  • #55
    Potatoeman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,070 ✭✭✭Potatoeman


    Femme_Fatale wrote: »
    Lol, concern about a hardline, repressive figure is "leftie". Why is it "leftie" to be concerned about these things? I mean, it wouldn't be "leftie" to be concerned about the very same things going on under a communist regime.
    I couldn't give a **** if he is "a god among men" (no he isn't), has rebuilt "Mother" Russia and gets sh1t done. And no he hasn't made Russia great. He has made it a scary place for a lot of people to live in.
    But if you're cool with that because it's kinda bad-ass and no-nonsense (same could be said about Hitler) that's you I suppose.

    (Anyone who goes on about Godwin - zzzzzzz; Hitler/nazis - relevant sometimes).

    Russia became a scary place to live in because of the power vacuum after the fall of cummunism. McMafia by Misha Glenny does a pretty good presentation of it and after reading it you can see why many pine for the old days.


  • #56
    Potatoeman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,070 ✭✭✭Potatoeman


    Muise... wrote: »
    why would they protest against Russian church-state collusion & repression in a Pakistani Mosque? :confused:

    That was an example of different cultural values.


  • #57
    Karl Stein
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,687 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    All the things she said
    All the things she said
    Running through my head
    Running through my head


  • #58
    cletus van damme
    Closed Accounts Posts: 960 ✭✭✭cletus van damme


    goose2005 wrote: »
    It's also kind of funny how he seems to have forgotten that Putin was literally a card-carrying communist and a KGB agent.

    He has not forgotten.
    It's irrelevant for a number fo reasons - one putin's worldview could have changed but more importantly the communist party was the only show in town back then.
    Do you really believe all those members really loved communism or maybe they saw it as the way to get ahead.

    Rising from a KGB agent to head of the country in such a short time only ads to his greatness.
    He is one of the great leaders of this era.


  • #59
    gobestbuyipad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 ✭gobestbuyipad


    A good ending is better than a good beginning.


  • #60
    mackerski
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭mackerski


    Potatoeman wrote: »
    the fall of cummunism

    Sounds like a rude film.


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  • #61
    Potatoeman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,070 ✭✭✭Potatoeman


    cletus van damme wrote: »
    He has not forgotten.
    It's irrelevant for a number fo reasons - one putin's worldview could have changed but more importantly the communist party was the only show in town back then.
    Do you really believe all those members really loved communism or maybe they say it as the way to get ahead.

    Rising from a KGB agent to head of the country in such a short time only ads to his greatness.
    He is one of the great leaders of this era.

    He's popular for cracking down on some of the oligarchs and standing up to the west which kind of done nothing to ease Russia into capitalism. It was a real missed opportunity to improve relations. He will be seen negatively in the west but he's better for Russia than his predecessors that had better relations with the west.


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