Pussy riot girl - gone missing?

Mince Pie

Nadezhda Tolokonnikova was being transferred to a different prison and now gone missing.
Where is she? I really hope there isn't a tragic end to this story.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/10427025/Missing-Pussy-Riot-prisoner-Nadezhda-Tolokonnikova-being-taken-to-Siberia.html

D1stant

Hopefully its a Thelma and Louise type bust-out!

I Heart Internet

Hopefully she's alright. I suspect she is - the Russians would never be that bad/stupid to leave her come to harm...I hope.

AH Answer: "Oh no, she was the hot one!"

melekalikimaka

she'd get it

sbsquarepants

It's stories like this that make you realise just how much freedom you have in a place like Ireland, despite stupid blasphemy laws and so on.

Mince Pie

I Heart Internet wrote: »

Hopefully she's alright. I suspect she is - the Russians would never be that bad/stupid to leave her come to harm...I hope.

AH Answer: "Oh no, she was the hot one!"

Really, the same government who killed Alexander Litvinenko with polonium? I really hope she is found.

Potatoeman

I have no problem with people protesting but why did they have to interupt a religious ceremony. Im not even religious and I think it was a crappy thing to do.

pharmaton

oh noes

MRnotlob606

they annoy me

pharmaton

I liked tatu better

sbsquarepants

Potatoeman wrote: »

I have no problem with people protesting but why did they have to interupt a religious ceremony. Im not even religious and I think it was a crappy thing to do.

hardly deserving of the punishment though!

LookingFor

Potatoeman wrote: »

I have no problem with people protesting but why did they have to interupt a religious ceremony. Im not even religious and I think it was a crappy thing to do.

Putin and Orthodox Church Cement Power in Russia

Mr. Taratukhin's repentance reinforces what has become a pillar of Mr. Putin's Russia: an intimate alliance between the Orthodox Church and the Kremlin reminiscent of czarist days. Rigidly hierarchical, intolerant of dissent and wary of competition, both share a vision of Russia's future -- rooted in robust nationalism and at odds with Western-style liberal democracy.

Muise...

Potatoeman wrote: »

I have no problem with people protesting but why did they have to interupt a religious ceremony. Im not even religious and I think it was a crappy thing to do.

they were protesting the power the church has over the state in Russia - you know, like lots of people in Ireland have been doing for decades. I'm not even Russian and I can see their point.

Zillah

Potatoeman wrote: »

I have no problem with people protesting but why did they have to interupt a religious ceremony. Im not even religious and I think it was a crappy thing to do.

It was an empty Cathedral. They were locked up for protesting the Church's support of Putin. Don't defend these people, Putin and his goons are scum.

pharmaton

hold up, the prison gaurds threatened to kill her?

SmurfX

Depends really on the original source, America and their sidekick aren't exactly impartial reporters on issues of Russian censorship. It'd be very much in their interests for their public to believe Russia are doing what is suggested and the report sounds very vague...

goose2005

Potatoeman wrote: »

I have no problem with people protesting but why did they have to interupt a religious ceremony. Im not even religious and I think it was a crappy thing to do.

Firstly, if churches won't keep out of politics then they can hardly complain when politics gets into the church. Secondly, there was no religious ceremony going on, there were only a handful of people in the church

biko

In Soviet Russia pussy riots You!

paulbok

The motherland must have been on to comerade Gerry about how to make problematic protesters dissapear.

seanie_c

sbsquarepants wrote: »

It's stories like this that make you realise just how much freedom you have in a place like Ireland, despite stupid blasphemy laws and so on.

Freedom like what? Masturbating with chickens in a Tesco or Lidl?
Staging an orgy in the Dublin Museum?

Maybe I should drop down to the local cathedral and shyte on the Altar in protest of Catholic Church covering up child abuse?

How do you define Freedom.

Freedom is a word constantly used in the west when criticizing other nations but there's no freedom in any country.

Name one country where you have total freedom.
I'm trying to be objective here, I really don't care about Pussy Riot or Russia, I'm more concerned about my own country.

Specialun

At first I thought title was "Pussy rot girl" ewwww

P. Breathnach

There was, and is, a public issue in Russia concerning the church's support for Putin. That's why Pussy Riot staged an event in the cathedral.

Brief yourself minimally on things:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pussy_Riot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZKaBh9pX64

The Diabolical Monocle

Something about this story doesn't smell right.

Can't quite put my finger in it.

pharmaton

The Diabolical Monocle wrote: »

Something about this story doesn't smell right.

Can't quite put my finger in it.

I knew I liked you

cletus van damme

Zillah wrote: »

It was an empty Cathedral. They were locked up for protesting the Church's support of Putin. Don't defend these people, Putin and his goons are scum.

putin is a god among men.
he has rebuilt russia into a superpower once again.
You can turn your nose up all you like with your leftie ideals but he gets **** done and has made mother russia great

The Diabolical Monocle

pharmaton wrote: »

I knew I liked you

Give it time. Im actually quite the dastard.

By which I mean prick.

sbsquarepants

Did they film themselves having an orgy somewhere or other or am I thinking of someone else?

Muise...

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Did they film themselves having an orgy somewhere or other or am I thinking of someone else?

That was a group called Voina. They staged a (surprisingly dull) sex show in the Natural History museum. Herself gone missing en route to Siberia was in both Voina and Pussy Riot.

pharmaton

The Diabolical Monocle wrote: »

Give it time. Im actually quite the dastard.

By which I mean prick.

That's ok, I'm not a very nice person either

seanie_c

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Did they film themselves having an orgy somewhere or other or am I thinking of someone else?

The same girl was part of Voina which staged what was called 'an orgy' in the Museum of Biology, Moscow.

Another girl was recorded masturbating with Chickens in a supermarket.

They're just a bunch of idiots.
If someone did the same thing in Ireland, that's what they'd be called...idiots.

But because this girl is eye candy, everyone is up in arms about it.

Seaneh

She hasn't "gone missing" she's being moved.

Non-story.

Muise...

seanie_c wrote: »

The same girl was part of Voina which staged what was called 'an orgy' in the Museum of Biology, Moscow.

Another girl was recorded masturbating with Chickens in a supermarket.

They're just a bunch of idiots.
If someone did the same thing in Ireland, that's what they're be called...idiots.

But because this girl is eye candy, everyone is up in arms about it.

They're not being called idiots in Russia though - they're called criminals and have been sentenced to harsh prison terms.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

Muise... wrote: »

They're not being called idiots in Russia though - they're called criminals and have been sentenced to harsh prison terms.

you think somebody could sexually assault a chicken in Ireland and avoid prison?

Muise...

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

you think somebody could sexually assault a chicken in Ireland and avoid prison?

it was dead, so not exactly an applicable charge.

seanie_c

Muise... wrote: »

They're not being called idiots in Russia though - they're called criminals and have been sentenced to harsh prison terms.

And do you believe for a second they wouldn't receive a similar sentence in our country?

In your own opinion, what would be an acceptable punishment for their actions?

seanie_c

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

you think somebody could sexually assault a chicken in Ireland and avoid prison?

Should have been clear it was a chicken wing or drumstick....

Muise...

seanie_c wrote: »

And do you believe for a second they wouldn't receive a similar sentence in our country?

In your own opinion, what would be an acceptable punishment for their actions?

a fine.

Marcus Halberstram

seanie_c wrote: »

And do you believe for a second they wouldn't receive a similar sentence in our country?

In your own opinion, what would be an acceptable punishment for their actions?

An interview on the Late Late.

seanie_c

Muise... wrote: »

a fine.

What if I took a shyte on an altar in a church and said it was in protest of Catholic Church covering up Child Abuse?

Would a fine be acceptable in your opinion?

What I urinated all over the sacristy?

This would be a form a protest...surely the free world couldn't send me to jail for that.

beertons

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

you think somebody could sexually assault a chicken in Ireland and avoid prison?

Apt user name there.

Muise...

seanie_c wrote: »

What if I took a shyte on an altar in a church and said it was in protest of Catholic Church covering up Child Abuse?

Would a fine be acceptable in your opinion?

What I urinated all over the sacristy?

This would be a form a protest...surely the free world couldn't send me to jail for that.

yes,

yes,

that would be an ecumenical matter,

the free world would prosecute you for criminal damage, not the objective behind it.

Potatoeman

Muise... wrote: »

they were protesting the power the church has over the state in Russia - you know, like lots of people in Ireland have been doing for decades. I'm not even Russian and I can see their point.

Its a church, protest outside.

April O Neill

LookingFor wrote: »

Putin and Orthodox Church Cement Power in Russia

Muise... wrote: »

they were protesting the power the church has over the state in Russia - you know, like lots of people in Ireland have been doing for decades. I'm not even Russian and I can see their point.

This thread has been illuminating to a political philistine such as myself.

Thanks!

goose2005

seanie_c wrote: »

And do you believe for a second they wouldn't receive a similar sentence in our country?

Yes, they would be exiled to the punishment camps of Leitrim for sure

In your own opinion, what would be an acceptable punishment for their actions?

A caution? A small fine?

Potatoeman

goose2005 wrote: »

Yes, they would be exiled to the punishment camps of Leitrim for sure

A caution? A small fine?

There is also a cultural element. If they did this is a Mosque in Pakistan they would get a pretty severpunishment too.

Muise...

Potatoeman wrote: »

There is also a cultural element. If they did this is a Mosque in Pakistan they would get a pretty severpunishment too.

why would they protest against Russian church-state collusion & repression in a Pakistani Mosque?

Femme_Fatale

cletus van damme wrote: »

putin is a god among men.
he has rebuilt russia into a superpower once again.
You can turn your nose up all you like with your leftie ideals but he gets **** done and has made mother russia great

Lol, concern about a hardline, repressive figure is "leftie". Why is it "leftie" to be concerned about these things? I mean, it wouldn't be "leftie" to be concerned about the very same things going on under a communist regime.
I couldn't give a **** if he is "a god among men" (no he isn't), has rebuilt "Mother" Russia and gets sh1t done. And no he hasn't made Russia great. He has made it a scary place for a lot of people to live in.
But if you're cool with that because it's kinda bad-ass and no-nonsense (same could be said about Hitler) that's you I suppose.

(Anyone who goes on about Godwin - zzzzzzz; Hitler/nazis - relevant sometimes).

GalwayGuy2

I couldn't give a **** if he is "a god among men" (no he isn't), has rebuilt "Mother" Russia and gets sh1t done. And no he hasn't made Russia great. He has made it a scary place for a lot of people to live in.

Don't get me wrong, Putin is a dictator (Although, not the worst)

But it has to be said, that he did take over when Russia was going to hell. Not saying it would be better if he was or wasn't there, but you can see why he has his supporters in Russia.

Grayson

Mince Pie wrote: »

Nadezhda Tolokonnikova was being transferred to a different prison and now gone missing.
Where is she? I really hope there isn't a tragic end to this story.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/10427025/Missing-Pussy-Riot-prisoner-Nadezhda-Tolokonnikova-being-taken-to-Siberia.html

She was kidnapped by Roma.

seanie_c wrote: »

Freedom like what? Masturbating with chickens in a Tesco or Lidl?
Staging an orgy in the Dublin Museum?

Maybe I should drop down to the local cathedral and shyte on the Altar in protest of Catholic Church covering up child abuse?

How do you define Freedom.

Freedom is a word constantly used in the west when criticizing other nations but there's no freedom in any country.

Name one country where you have total freedom.
I'm trying to be objective here, I really don't care about Pussy Riot or Russia, I'm more concerned about my own country.

At least you're allowed say the church is full of paedophiles and that being gay isn't a horrible abnormality. Hell, even wearing a rainbow badge would get you locked up there.

BTW, the argument you're making could be extended to north korea. Sure they're great, I mean it's not like we have real freedom either.

goose2005

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Lol, concern about a hardline, repressive figure is "leftie". Why is it "leftie" to be concerned about these things? I mean, it wouldn't be "leftie" to be concerned about the very same things going on under a communist regime.
I couldn't give a **** if he is "a god among men" (no he isn't), has rebuilt "Mother" Russia and gets sh1t done. And no he hasn't made Russia great. He has made it a scary place for a lot of people to live in.
But if you're cool with that because it's kinda bad-ass and no-nonsense (same could be said about Hitler) that's you I suppose.

(Anyone who goes on about Godwin - zzzzzzz; Hitler/nazis - relevant sometimes).

It's also kind of funny how he seems to have forgotten that Putin was literally a card-carrying communist and a KGB agent.

Grayson

And if anyone thinks the protest isn't art, they should look at this .

I don't get it either but apparently it's art. If that's art, I think singing in a church would do.