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Any Value Stocks?

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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,763 Mod ✭✭✭✭ToxicPaddy


    OK the poster was found guilty of a punishable offence in another jurisdiction, but I fail to see the relevance of an unsolicited notice? Is this additional punishment? :D

    It was in response by another poster on this thread who claimed albeit in a light hearted manner that anyone who posts negatively gets banned.

    I was simply knocking any rumours on the head before they started. We wouldn't want anyone getting the wrong impression now would we?? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,788 ✭✭✭Cute Hoor


    Volkswagen (VOW)

    Expect huge gains in VOW over the next 5 years

    Not a bad start, up nearly 5% this morning.

    Not sure if Ferrovial represents good value, but it's SP has nearly doubled in the last 18 months and pays a very good dividend, they have just declared a 40 cent interim dividend to be paid in early December (probably factored into the SP yesterday).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 337 ✭✭Value Hunter


    BP got a nice bump during the week, along with a improved dividend

    http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/10/29/uk-bp-results-idUKBRE99S08W20131029

    Volkswagen also had a nice bump, as another poster pointed out. Got around to having another look at why their P/E is so low as well, turns out there was a large bonus in profits last year relating to their takeover of Porsche which I assume is lowering the P/E. With this discounted they will still be trading at 7 times earnings vs 4.5 as reported now. Still excellent value as far as I'm concerned.

    Anymore stocks people are keen on?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 337 ✭✭Value Hunter


    Thargor wrote: »
    Yeah nearly all small caps, thinking of going to cash for a while though, just dont have a good feeling about the way things are headed, just my amateur opinion though no research to back it up, if interest rates werent so bad Id probably be finished with shares for a while or if there was a bit of certainty in the property market Id have bought an investment property by now but I feel there might be bad times coming there aswell.

    Yeah its a tough time for investing, so much uncertainty ahead.

    Any other small caps you had earmarked, for curiosities sake? I've enjoy valuing small caps, nothing better than spotting an obscure bargain no one else has considered


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,655 ✭✭✭draiochtanois


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 337 ✭✭Value Hunter


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    Reasons why?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,655 ✭✭✭draiochtanois


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,834 ✭✭✭Sonnenblumen


    On board with BP and IFG. The latter is probably more a steady eddie stock but a tight well managed co. Pays a good divi which is a bonus. BP I reckon has plenty of upside and a good divi.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16 love_struck


    BP got a nice bump during the week, along with a improved dividend

    http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/10/29/uk-bp-results-idUKBRE99S08W20131029

    Volkswagen also had a nice bump, as another poster pointed out. Got around to having another look at why their P/E is so low as well, turns out there was a large bonus in profits last year relating to their takeover of Porsche which I assume is lowering the P/E. With this discounted they will still be trading at 7 times earnings vs 4.5 as reported now. Still excellent value as far as I'm concerned.

    Anymore stocks people are keen on?


    id be more bullish on bmw than vw , the rich are doing great worldwide as is self evident from equity market returns this past few years , bmw has a PE which is no higher than VW


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 337 ✭✭Value Hunter


    id be more bullish on bmw than vw , the rich are doing great worldwide as is self evident from equity market returns this past few years , bmw has a PE which is no higher than VW

    VW own Porsche and Audi, so they're covered on that side of the market.

    There is also quite a difference in P/E ratios. BMW is still a very good investment though


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 526 ✭✭✭betonit


    any views on Kerry. I keep thinking i missed the boat in this one as a long term investment. Can it the stock price grow much further


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭wenxue


    CCIH,you will get double back,a few friend working in this company,they told me


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 337 ✭✭Value Hunter


    betonit wrote: »
    any views on Kerry. I keep thinking i missed the boat in this one as a long term investment. Can it the stock price grow much further

    No views from me, I may give them a look over. A quick glance on yahoo finance shows a P/E ratio of 30 which seems over cooked. I've no background to the fundamentals though so I can't call it just yet


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 337 ✭✭Value Hunter


    wenxue wrote: »
    CCIH,you will get double back,a few friend working in this company,they told me

    Small cap internet provider in china. Exceptional potential, coupled with exceptional risk. Any more details you can provide?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,834 ✭✭✭Sonnenblumen


    DCC makes for very interesting reading. £10billion T/O, and cash rich, strong management team. Must take another look.

    The co has attracted a lot of interest since moving to LSE.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10 rock_dinasaur


    betonit wrote: »
    any views on Kerry. I keep thinking i missed the boat in this one as a long term investment. Can it the stock price grow much further


    long term most certainly but it currently has a PE of over 25 which is high

    dairy sector in Ireland is set for very significant growth from april 2015 as milk quotas are removed

    both Kerry and glanbia also have very profitable high margin product enterprises overseas


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭gordongekko


    It depends on how you define value. Is it something you hope will go up in 12 months or something you will lock away for 10 years.

    The 1 year shares are harder to find and a bit riskier the 10 year shares may see a fall short term but still provide long term growth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,655 ✭✭✭draiochtanois


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 337 ✭✭Value Hunter


    Ryanair down 11.5% this morning on a profit warning.

    Buying opportunity? Or the continuation of their recent heavy declines?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭wenxue


    dont have any more information,only know this company is No1 CDN service in China,about 57 per market share,this year profit can improve,Q3 Earnings Release at 18 Nov,only information I know,but cant confirm it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59 ✭✭Pennystockwhiz


    I wouldn't invest in a small cap Chinese company there sketchy as ****..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,834 ✭✭✭Sonnenblumen


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    Agree, great company which will continue to grow, but my problem is the SP is high, high P/E and a lousy Yield. Hence I have so far declined to buy any as I believe there are better opps to make money with other stocks eg Glanbia.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,834 ✭✭✭Sonnenblumen


    I wouldn't invest in a small cap Chinese company there sketchy as ****..

    It might be interesting to share some details (from your newsletter?) of where you have invested or when we will read some your nominations (blog?)?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59 ✭✭Pennystockwhiz


    I haven't started a newsletter yet, Sonnenblumen by nominations do you mean stock picks?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,655 ✭✭✭draiochtanois


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 59 ✭✭Pennystockwhiz


    The fall knocked €1billion off Ryanairs value


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭gordongekko


    Tesla sold only 5500 cars last quarter. There is probably a lot of value shorting this over the next year. Closed 176 today. Target south of 120.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 337 ✭✭Value Hunter


    Tesla sold only 5500 cars last quarter. There is probably a lot of value shorting this over the next year. Closed 176 today. Target south of 120.

    Be a scary one to short! All logic has long gone out of the valuation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,201 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    Tesla sold only 5500 cars last quarter. There is probably a lot of value shorting this over the next year. Closed 176 today. Target south of 120.
    Did you actually go short or just making a prediction?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭gordongekko


    Thargor wrote: »
    Did you actually go short or just making a prediction?

    their results came out after hours so no. But yes I will be.


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