Why dont we celebrate Guy Fawkes here?

Mint Sauce · 05-11-2013 06:15PM #1

He did after all, try to blow up the Houses of Parliament, after converting to Catholicism. I thought the Irish might have sympathized with him on them points alone considering our own history with the English.

Please note, this thread is not intended as an anti English/British/Terrorism thread.

I just find it odd that theres no mention of it here considering the above points.

RobertKK · 05-11-2013 06:17PM

Because it is a different country he relates to.

fluke · 05-11-2013 06:17PM

Fawke off

wretcheddomain · 05-11-2013 06:17PM

Because it's a disgusting sectarian celebration of the burning to death of the effigy of an individual.

The_Gatsby · 05-11-2013 06:19PM

They don't celebrate what he attempted to do in Britain, they celebrate the fact he was caught.

Artful_Badger · 05-11-2013 06:21PM

Sympathizing with someone hardly warrants a yearly celebration in their honor.

Mint Sauce · 05-11-2013 06:23PM

wretcheddomain wrote: »

Because it's a disgusting sectarian celebration of the burning to death of an effigy of an individual.

The_Gatsby wrote: »

They don't celebrate what he attempted to do in Britain, they celebrate the fact he was caught.

Agreed, the British celebrate his death and execution. Although now a days, there seems to be little reference to the man him self, and just referring to it as firework night.

Just surprised we never tried jumping in the bandwagon to celebrate what he attempted.

Augmerson · 05-11-2013 06:24PM

Because I'm not your buddy guy.

Nodin · 05-11-2013 06:25PM

Mint Sauce wrote: »

Agreed, the British celebrate his death and execution. Although now a days, there seems to be little reference to the man him self, and just referring to it as firework night.

Just surprised we never tried jumping in the bandwagon to celebrate what he attempted.

We were under Brit rule at the time and for subsequent centuries, so I doubt it would have been allowed flourish.

Artful_Badger · 05-11-2013 06:25PM

The_Gatsby wrote: »

They don't celebrate what he attempted to do in Britain, they celebrate the fact he was caught.

They dont know what the hell they are celebrating I think. It starting by celebrating the fact the king didnt die, then turned into a "fcuk all the catholics" type of a thing. It only became Guy Fawkes day recently enough.

At this stage its a celebration of being allowed to burn things in a pile by the looks of it.

Nodin · 05-11-2013 06:26PM

Artful_Badger wrote: »

Sympathizing with someone hardly warrants a yearly celebration in their honor.

...does if its an excuse for fires, fireworks and the craic.

iDave · 05-11-2013 06:27PM

We didn't remember the 5th of November

Augmerson · 05-11-2013 06:28PM

Artful_Badger wrote: »

At this stage its a celebration of being allowed to burn things in a pile by the looks of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmin5WkOuPw

The_Gatsby · 05-11-2013 06:28PM

Artful_Badger wrote: »

They dont know what the hell they are celebrating I think. It starting by celebrating the fact the king didnt die, then turned into a "fcuk all the catholics" type of a thing. It only became Guy Fawkes day recently enough.

At this stage its a celebration of being allowed to burn things in a pile by the looks of it.

Well obviously nowadays it's turned into an excuse for fireworks and a bonfire. It's like anything really. Look at halloween and Christmas. Nobody actually thinks of the real reason we celebrate these days.

wretcheddomain · 05-11-2013 06:30PM

The_Gatsby wrote: »

Well obviously nowadays it's turned into an excuse for fireworks and a bonfire. It's like anything really. Look at halloween and Christmas. Nobody actually thinks of the real reason we celebrate these days.

Exactly - even if they found out that Guy Fawkes never existed and the story is a fable, they'd then celebrate the symbolic meaning of the fable.

Karl Stein · 05-11-2013 06:31PM

Wasn't he an 'associate' of Gerry Adams?

wretcheddomain · 05-11-2013 06:31PM

Carlos Roca wrote: »

Wasn't he an 'associate' of Gerry Adams?

Gerry Adams ordered his murder, didn't you know?

Karl Stein · 05-11-2013 06:32PM

wretcheddomain wrote: »

Gerry Adams ordered his murder, didn't you know?

:eek:

theblaqueguy · 05-11-2013 06:32PM

They should have a bank holiday in honour of this great man!
Guy Fawkes is my hero!

mackerski · 05-11-2013 06:34PM

wretcheddomain wrote: »

Because it's a disgusting sectarian celebration of the burning to death of the effigy of an individual.

But Fawkes wasn't burned to death. Not that his actual death was nicer...

Kylo Ren · 05-11-2013 06:34PM

If he succeeded it would make more sense, and even then it would be moronic to celebrate it once a year.

Next.

Mint Sauce · 05-11-2013 06:35PM

The_Gatsby wrote: »

Well obviously nowadays it's turned into an excuse for fireworks and a bonfire. It's like anything really. Look at halloween and Christmas. Nobody actually thinks of the real reason we celebrate these days.

Why do we even celebrate halloween the way we do, or even at all?

The only reference I can see bonfires in relation to it, is burning witches at the steak, although I have never heard that reason for building them here. As for fireworks, I fail to see any reference.

Maybe its just an excuse to burn and blow stuff up, and to copy American celebrations/holidays.

wretcheddomain · 05-11-2013 06:35PM

mackerski wrote: »

But Fawkes wasn't burned to death. Not that his actual death was nicer...

Don't you know what an effigy is?

The_Gatsby · 05-11-2013 06:40PM

Mint Sauce wrote: »

Why do we even celebrate halloween the way we do, or even at all?

The only reference I can see bonfires in relation to it, is burning witches at the steak, although I have never heard that reason for building them here. As for fireworks, I fail to see any reference.

Maybe its just an excuse to burn and blow stuff up, and to copy American celebrations/holidays.

I honestly have no idea, I think it's stupid to be honest.

Gee Bag · 05-11-2013 06:51PM

Mint Sauce wrote: »

Why do we even celebrate halloween the way we do, or even at all?

The only reference I can see bonfires in relation to it, is burning witches at the steak, although I have never heard that reason for building them here. As for fireworks, I fail to see any reference.

Maybe its just an excuse to burn and blow stuff up, and to copy American celebrations/holidays.

An American holiday!?!?

Our celebrating Bealtine (may 1st) and Samhain (oct 31st) with bonfires dates back to the Iron Age and is associatd with the birth and death of the year.

Mint Aero · 05-11-2013 06:57PM

People would want to seriously cop on regarding bon fires. It's bad for the environment.

srsly78 · 05-11-2013 06:58PM

Epic history fail OP.

[-0-] · 05-11-2013 06:59PM

Because this is Ireland. Not Britain.

Mint Sauce · 05-11-2013 07:01PM

Gee Bag wrote: »

An American holiday!?!?

Our celebrating Bealtine (may 1st) and Samhain (oct 31st) with bonfires dates back to the Iron Age and is associatd with the birth and death of the year.

Been living here for 15 years, and have never heard it referred to as that.

Mint Sauce · 05-11-2013 07:04PM

srsly78 wrote: »

Epic history fail OP.

Which part was I incorrect on, that he was a catholic, or that he tried to blow up the houses of parliament?

Or do you have anything constructive to add to this thread, even by AHs standards, I think your post is the Epic Fail.

srsly78 · 05-11-2013 07:05PM

Ah sorry. I thought you meant "why don't we celebrate the burning of his effigy"!

Why dont we celebrate Guy Fawkes here?

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