Young woman kicked to death!

iamstop · 04-11-2013 03:23AM #1

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/young-mother-kicked-to-death-after-being-accused-of-stealing-man-29722435.html

Very sad. No one deserves that. Pretty shocking tbh.

yizorselves · 04-11-2013 03:28AM

It takes a special type of vermin to jump on someones head

Vicar in a tutu · 04-11-2013 03:30AM

I don't know how anybody could do that to another human being. not even an animal would do it.

04-11-2013 03:37AM

yizorselves wrote: »

It takes a special type of vermin to jump on someones head

It's surprising how often it happens without serious injury and so isn't widely reported. Disturbing thing to ever see.

theblaqueguy · 04-11-2013 03:40AM

Thats horrible
According to the article there was 8 people in the house when it happened you would think one of them would of intervened before it got so bad her life could have been saved

policarp · 04-11-2013 03:51AM

And they all left?
Not one gent there.

Amirani · 04-11-2013 03:53AM

Poor woman really had a bad time of late: http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/mum-kicked-to-death-was-scalded-with-boiling-water-a-month-ago-29724000.html

iamstop · 05-11-2013 05:25AM

Jaysus. That is even sadder. Very tragic.

suicide_circus · 05-11-2013 05:39AM

does kicking/jumping on someone's head when they are on the ground count as intent? or will this be 5 years for manslaughter with 3 suspended?

LoonyLovegood · 05-11-2013 08:06AM

It depends. If they can charge the animals who did this, they'll probably be charged with murder, but the jury could find them not guilty of murder/guilty of manslaughter or some such.

The poor woman, whoever did that is an animal. Killing someone so brutally, and leaving a child without a mother?

beks101 · 05-11-2013 08:20AM

Speechless. Pure scum.

Wacker The Attacker · 05-11-2013 08:32AM

suicide_circus wrote: »

does kicking/jumping on someone's head when they are on the ground count as intent? or will this be 5 years for manslaughter with 3 suspended?

Community service with a drug rehab programme

Wacker The Attacker · 05-11-2013 08:35AM

Theres very little background given

Eight Ball · 05-11-2013 08:55AM

Not surprised in the least. This is the world we live in life is cheap.

Dravokivich · 05-11-2013 08:59AM

policarp wrote: »

And they all left?
Not one gent there.

What are you implying? You a regularly john mcclane yourself so?

seamus · 05-11-2013 10:21AM

suicide_circus wrote: »

does kicking/jumping on someone's head when they are on the ground count as intent? or will this be 5 years for manslaughter with 3 suspended?

It depends on witness statements.

Most likely as was the case with Brian Murphy outside Annabel's, everyone involved will be advised by solicitors to say that they didn't see who it was that kicked her in the head, and the DPP won't be able to prove more than aggravated assault.

dark crystal · 05-11-2013 10:45AM

Dravokivich wrote: »

What are you implying? You a regularly john mcclane yourself so?

You don't need to be John McClane to intervene when someone's kicking a defenceless woman in the head. Just someone with a modicum of human decency.

I hope whichever lowlife did this gets the book thrown at them.

anncoates · 05-11-2013 10:48AM

I'd imagine it will be very hard to nail who actually death the fatal blow if it was a mob. They probably don't even know themselves. Unless they all testify it was one person.

SEPT 23 1989 · 05-11-2013 11:01AM

primitive people

Dravokivich · 05-11-2013 11:01AM

dark crystal wrote: »

You don't need to be John McClane to intervene when someone's kicking a defenceless woman in the head. Just someone with a modicum of human decency.

I hope whichever lowlife did this gets the book thrown at them.

I was questioning the way that poster was assuming too much about who was in attendance. All we know is the unfortunate result. We know nothing of who was there other than the victim. It's not right to push the blame on people who weren't involved with the dispute, who could have run away in a state of panic and you question their humanity?

Muise... · 05-11-2013 11:12AM

policarp wrote: »

And they all left?
Not one gent there.

or lady.

dark crystal · 05-11-2013 11:12AM

Dravokivich wrote: »

I was questioning the way that poster was assuming too much about who was in attendance. All we know is the unfortunate result. We know nothing of who was there other than the victim. It's not right to push the blame on people who weren't involved with the dispute, who could have run away in a state of panic and you question their humanity?

Yeah, I would.

Lux23 · 05-11-2013 11:17AM

This is very sad, I can't imagine what the last few weeks of that poor girls life were like.

SpaceTime · 05-11-2013 11:23AM

That's just absolutely horrific.
RIP and condolences to her family and friends.

Whoever did that needs to be put away for a very, very long time.

If someone kicks someone in the head, it's quite clear what their intentions are. There's a very strong possibility that they'll end up dead or severely brain injured and possibly badly disabled for life.

I think we need to clear down the prisons to take people who aren't dangerous out i.e. people in for stupid stuff like non payment of fines and TV licenses and things like tax offences etc etc all those non-brutal things which could be dealt with through community service, attachment to income or other restorative justice type arrangements.

That would give us more space to keep people who are genuinely dangerous out of harms way for a long time!

xzanti · 05-11-2013 11:27AM

And she has a little 18 month old Son too.. that is just so sad

Poor girl.. RIP

I hope the scummer or scummers get what's coming to them!

sbsquarepants · 05-11-2013 11:32AM

Deleted User wrote: »

It's surprising how often it happens without serious injury and so isn't widely reported. Disturbing thing to ever see.

I seen it happen once, in a shopping centre car park while I was waiting for food in the Chinese. I was actually shook up a little bit by it and I wouldn't be in any way squeamish, I was sure the guy was dead. The fella that done it had a little girl with him maybe 3 years old, his daughter I presume, he actually put the child down, gave the other guy a box and then stamped on him 2 or 3 times on the ground - that kid had to be traumatised. They guy he hit was a junkie, and absolutely in no way capable of defending himself at the time, he was only semi conscious to begin with. It was disgusting.

Muise... · 05-11-2013 11:38AM

sbsquarepants wrote: »

I seen it happen once, in a shopping centre car park while I was waiting for food in the Chinese. I was actually shook up a little bit by it and I wouldn't be in any way squeamish, I was sure the guy was dead. The fella that done it had a little girl with him maybe 3 years old, his daughter I presume, he actually put the child down, gave the other guy a box and then stamped on him 2 or 3 times on the ground - that kid had to be traumatised. They guy he hit was a junkie, and absolutely in no way capable of defending himself at the time, he was only semi conscious to begin with. It was disgusting.

I hope you reported this to the Gardaí.

sbsquarepants · 05-11-2013 11:45AM

I didn't actually. I don't imagine they would have done much about it anyway. Junkie gets hiding - boo hoo. It's sad I suppose, but that's the world we live in. In any case i didn't recognise either of them and to be honest even if I did, i'd be more inclined to mind my own business than to report it.

SpaceTime · 05-11-2013 11:49AM

You should always report stuff like that.
Just because someone is a drug addict or sleeping rough shouldn't mean you just walk past.

The world we live in becomes more like that the more everyone just turns a blind eye!

sbsquarepants · 05-11-2013 12:00PM

You're right in a way, in a perfect world you'd certainly be right, but personally speaking I wouldn't be too comfortable getting involved without knowing the story behind it. There were plenty of witnesses, cctv i'm sure, not really any of my concern. It's not like it was some little old lady, or a girl being dragged into the bushes or something like that. The guy had most likely done something to bring it on himself.

Muise... · 05-11-2013 12:02PM

sbsquarepants wrote: »

You're right in a way, in a perfect world you'd certainly be right, but personally speaking I wouldn't be too comfortable getting involved without knowing the story behind it. There were plenty of witnesses, cctv i'm sure, not really any of my concern. It's not like it was some little old lady, or a girl being dragged into the bushes or something like that. The guy had most likely done something to bring it on himself.

The poor woman this thread is about was killed because someone thought she deserved it. Nobody does.

Young woman kicked to death!

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