Just sold my car to pay the rent

seanie_c · 05-11-2013 09:03AM

kneemos wrote: »

You're wrong.
Things were much worse in the Eighties.Also rich people don't stuff their money in a mattress they spend it so people like you can get a job.

If that were true, Americans would be fully employed after all the tax cuts they got during the Bush era. But, the reality is quite different.

Reality has a way of asserting itself no matter how deluded a person becomes.

I'm a job creator with my wealth. Without me, the world would simply vanish.

kneemos · 05-11-2013 09:07AM

seanie_c wrote: »

If that were true, Americans would be fully employed after all the tax cuts they got during the Bush era. But, the reality is quite different.

Reality has a way of asserting itself no matter how deluded a person becomes.

I'm a job creator with my wealth. Without me, the world would simply vanish.

7% unemployment,half what it is here.That's what they call a recession.

seanie_c · 05-11-2013 09:10AM

kneemos wrote: »

7% unemployment,half what it is here.That's what they call a recession.

I don't pay attention to the government figures anymore. There are 50 million Americans with EBT cards (food stamps) but only 7% unemployment...a resounding success for those Bush tax cuts.

Without rich people, America would probably be consumed by the Atlantic and Pacific oceans...how could Americans survive without the kleptocrats running their nation?

Rich people are like manna from heaven.

Mr.David · 05-11-2013 09:12AM

seanie_c wrote: »

I can't rationalize how someone working in finance thinks when they would force an entire country into servitude.

They sincerely believe what they do is complicated which is really laughable to me.

The financial sector is full of useless brain dead turds only good at one thing.

First of all, the financial sector lends out credit they don't even have which is perfectly legal because they've helped write all the legislation.

They're not really that concerned whether the borrower can pay the money back because they know the government will insure their loses in the form of bailouts.

If that wasn't bad enough, they're perfectly within their legal right to evict the borrower from land or property who can no longer pay for the fraudulent loan.

Put it like this, either the financial sector are amazingly stupid or they're extremely good con men. Personally, I'm willing to believe more in the latter.

In my estimation, anyone that could rationalize such behavior clearly has problems.

Where to begin?!

I work in the financial sector, I consider myself neither a 'brainless turd' nor a conman. What I do is in fact complicated and is value added for society as a whole.

You clearly have no grasp whatsoever of economics and how the sector as a whole operates.

I'm not even going to bother, its a waste of virtual ink.

I better get back to world domination and general mayhem :rolleyes:

Mr.David · 05-11-2013 09:14AM

seanie_c wrote: »

I don't pay attention to the government figures anymore

Okay....so from where do you get your statistics about unemployment and food stamps in the US?!

kneemos · 05-11-2013 09:15AM

seanie_c wrote: »

I don't pay attention to the government figures anymore. There are 50 million Americans with EBT cards (food stamps) but only 7% unemployment...a resounding success for those Bush tax cuts.

Without rich people, America would probably be consumed by the Atlantic and Pacific oceans...how could Americans survive without the kleptocrats running their nation?

Rich people are like manna from heaven.

I agree.They build houses,buy cars,pay for services and even give to the needy.

seanie_c · 05-11-2013 09:22AM

Mr.David wrote: »

What I do is in fact complicated and is value added for society as a whole.

AHAHAHAHA ....
Please, stop.

I don't care what you do in the financial sector but to claim it's complicated is laughable...it's certainly not complicated to me.

You clearly have no grasp whatsoever of economics and how the sector as a whole operates.

Are you another one of these people deluding yourself economics is a science? Would you consider a drug dealer a scientist?

Nor would I funnily enough but you seem to believe economics is science and it really isn't, okay?

I'm not even going to bother, its a waste of virtual ink.

I better get back to world domination and general mayhem :rolleyes:

Absolutely devastated you couldn't contradict my assertion the financial sector caused immeasurable human suffering and environmental destruction in African, South American countries along with East Europe and Russia after the collapse of the Soviet Union.

Perhaps it's because you know I'm correct? Well, it's absolute fact the financial sector helped plunder the wealth of those nations for themselves.

And since they have nowhere else to go now, they're doing it to their own countries in Europe and America.

seanie_c · 05-11-2013 09:23AM

kneemos wrote: »

I agree.They build houses,buy cars,pay for services and even give to the needy.

They're parasites, nothing more.

kneemos · 05-11-2013 09:26AM

seanie_c wrote: »

AHAHAHAHA ....
Please, stop.

I don't care what you do in the financial sector but to claim it's complicated is laughable...it's certainly not complicated to me.

Are you another one of these people deluding yourself economics is a science? Would you consider a drug dealer a scientist?

Nor would I funnily enough but you seem to believe economics is science and it really isn't, okay?

Absolutely devastated you couldn't contradict my assertion the financial sector caused immeasurable human suffering and environmental destruction in African, South American countries along with East Europe and Russia after the collapse of the Soviet Union.

Perhaps it's because you know I'm correct? Well, it's absolute fact the financial sector helped plunder the wealth of those nations for themselves.

And since they have nowhere else to go now, they're doing it to their own countries in Europe and America.

All the countries you named have one common denominator...corrupt governments.

Mr.David · 05-11-2013 09:26AM

seanie_c wrote: »

AHAHAHAHA ....
Please, stop.

I don't care what you do in the financial sector but to claim it's complicated is laughable...it's certainly not complicated to me.

Are you another one of these people deluding yourself economics is a science? Would you consider a drug dealer a scientist?

So you don't know what I do, you just know that its not complicated? Good lad, gold star for you. I assure you, it is complicated.

Economics is a social science, yes. What would you describe it as? A drug dealer is a salesman, why would they be a scientist?! Perhaps someone who makes drugs could be described as a scientist of sorts though if that is what you mean.

I cannot decipher the rest of the incoherent babble!

Mr.David · 05-11-2013 09:27AM

seanie_c wrote: »

They're parasites, nothing more.

Are you really claiming that all rich people are parasites?

#troll

kneemos · 05-11-2013 09:27AM

seanie_c wrote: »

They're parasites, nothing more.

Right so.

seanie_c · 05-11-2013 09:33AM

Mr.David wrote: »

So you don't know what I do, you just know that its not complicated? Good lad, gold star for you. I assure you, it is complicated.

Eh..no, it's not. I assure you, those mathematical equations you justify your decisions upon are for the most part absolute nonsense.

I was astounded to see some traders using a Fibonacci sequence to predict where stock was going.....absolutely gobsmacked and it made me realize how worthless these people in the financial sector are.

If they had an ounce of talent in their bodies, they'd be creating something useful for society instead of usurping it.

Economics is a social science, yes. What would you describe it as? A drug dealer is a salesman, why would they be a scientist?! Perhaps someone who makes drugs could be described as a scientist of sorts though if that is what you mean.

No, it's not a science and it never has been. It's more like a form of brain damage.

A drug dealer knows how to make a profit and society doesn't consider him a scientist anymore than a pimp or shop keeper...

You were brainwashed in school / college to believe economics is scientific and it fcking isn't! Never has been.

I cannot decipher the rest of the incoherent babble!

You can start by making a coherent argument why the financial sector is so beneficial to society because I really need a good laugh with your response.

Sir Humphrey Appleby · 05-11-2013 09:41AM

kneemos wrote: »

You're wrong.
Things were much worse in the Eighties.Also rich people don't stuff their money in a mattress they spend it so people like you can get a job.

I'm well old enough to remember the 80's and I have to disagree, they never got this bad.
Yes income tax was higher but there were some real supports as well, they have all been cut now.

kneemos · 05-11-2013 09:46AM

Sir Humphrey Appleby wrote: »

I'm well old enough to remember the 80's and I have to disagree, they never got this bad.
Yes income tax was higher but there were some real supports as well, they have all been cut now.

Nearly 20% unemployment,mass forced emigration,nobody had two shillings to rub together.
The place was a miserable hole.

Zambia · 05-11-2013 09:52AM

seanie_c wrote: »

Eh..no,

You can start by making a coherent argument why the financial sector is so beneficial to society because I really need a good laugh with your response.

so what your saying is all your money is in your mattress.

Best of luck with that.

05-11-2013 10:14AM

I am well old enough to remember the 80s and it not a case of better or worse as such, for example it was much easier to pick up casual work then that's all but gone now, while there might be more work now actually getting a job has become more complicated, for example second daughter passed the interview and test for a job in a bank however to take up the job you need to pass a background and criminal test( which she will ) they check parents address as well.

There are lots of ways getting in to the world of work has become much harder ever thing like being paid monthly which a lot of jobs are doing now can make it hard for anyone marginal to get and sustain a job.

seanie_c · 05-11-2013 11:00AM

Zambia wrote: »

so what your saying is all your money is in your mattress.

Best of luck with that.

I wouldn't need any money if it weren't for brain damaged people ruling the planet.

Was invading Iraq and murdering millions of people based on science?
Is cutting down the rain forests in Brazil based on science?
Is depleting the oceans of life based on science?
Is making people go down a hole to dig up metals and other resources based on science?

No...apparently it's because of Economics, which will never be even close to a science.

Economics is most definitely a form of brain damage because no human in their right mind would do these things unless forced to.

What rational thinking human would willingly destroy his environment and other life on the planet for money?

These aren't rational thinkers.

the groutch · 05-11-2013 11:01AM

billysweeney wrote: »

I work for a couple of different companies on zero hour contracts, or what used to be known as casual labour. I've gotten 3 days work in the last two months.

there's your problem right there, you shouldnt have to be at their beck and call for zero money, and in fact cost you money by not being able to claim dole.
think it's time to man up and tell your "employers" you either want either guaranteed hours or a retainer, or you're done with them.
yes, they might call your bluff, but worse case scenario you'll get €188 per week from the dole instead of nothing.
And judging by the fact that 2 employers want to keep you on the their books, you wouldn't even be on the dole for long.

kneemos · 05-11-2013 11:26AM

seanie_c wrote: »

I wouldn't need any money if it weren't for brain damaged people ruling the planet.

Was invading Iraq and murdering millions of people based on science?
Is cutting down the rain forests in Brazil based on science?
Is depleting the oceans of life based on science?
Is making people go down a hole to dig up metals and other resources based on science?

No...apparently it's because of Economics, which will never be even close to a science.

Economics is most definitely a form of brain damage because no human in their right mind would do these things unless forced to.

What rational thinking human would willingly destroy his environment and other life on the planet for money?

These aren't rational thinkers.

Economics drives progress in areas such as medicine and tool manufacturin.Even those working .down the mine benefit.
Toiling in the field all day for a subsistance living and dying young from an incurable disease doesn't sound like fun.

emmabrighton · 05-11-2013 11:34AM

Nearly the same situation as yourself. Can't afford to pay road tax or pay for what is needed to pass the NCT so my car is getting sold this month.

Funny thing is I have a full time job but the cost of rent and childcare means I cant afford any of those little luxuries like getting to work in a heated car anymore. Will be the bike for me for the next while.

Saying that, I won't have to pay for petrol and I won't have to go to Weight watchers anymore - silver lining and all that.

Bigus · 05-11-2013 11:42AM

emmabrighton wrote: »

Nearly the same situation as yourself. Can't afford to pay road tax or pay for what is needed to pass the NCT so my car is getting sold this month.

Funny thing is I have a full time job but the cost of rent and childcare means I cant afford any of those little luxuries like getting to work in a heated car anymore. Will be the bike for me for the next while.

Saying that, I won't have to pay for petrol and I won't have to go to Weight watchers anymore - silver lining and all that.

That's the spirit. Onwards and upwards,

On the pus side,no more tax, mechanics,tyres petrol,tax insurance,parking fees !

Potatoeman · 05-11-2013 12:18PM

We are in a hole we dug ourselves. Austerity is cutting back to reduce budget deficits (which is a good thing). We wasted so much money during the boom and increased benefits based on short term income.

melekalikimaka · 05-11-2013 12:31PM

seanie_c wrote: »

I wouldn't need any money if it weren't for brain damaged people ruling the planet.

Was invading Iraq and murdering millions of people based on science?
Is cutting down the rain forests in Brazil based on science?
Is depleting the oceans of life based on science?
Is making people go down a hole to dig up metals and other resources based on science?

No...apparently it's because of Economics, which will never be even close to a science.

Economics is most definitely a form of brain damage because no human in their right mind would do these things unless forced to.

What rational thinking human would willingly destroy his environment and other life on the planet for money?

These aren't rational thinkers.

do you think before you type?

seanie_c · 05-11-2013 12:39PM

melekalikimaka wrote: »

do you think before you type?

Speak for yourself.

Unless you've something intelligent to say, don't bother responding to me in future. You're lucky to even get a response from me for such an idiotic comment.

Mr.David · 05-11-2013 01:23PM

seanie_c wrote: »

Economics is most definitely a form of brain damage

I think this bit is my favourite :pac:

In that case, I suggest that you are an Economist :P

P.Walnuts · 05-11-2013 01:29PM

seanie_c wrote: »

Speak for yourself.

Unless you've something intelligent to say, don't bother responding to me in future. You're lucky to even get a response from me for such an idiotic comment.

The fact you are a fairly frequent poster in the CT forum really, really detracts from the credibility of your posts.

ruthloss · 05-11-2013 01:32PM

Corkbah wrote: »

not another social welfare thread !!!

why haven't you applied to your local office for unemployment benefit ?

Don't be such a dickhead.

Banned.

ruthloss · 05-11-2013 01:35PM

Potatoeman wrote: »

We are in a hole we dug ourselves. Austerity is cutting back to reduce budget deficits (which is a good thing). We wasted so much money during the boom and increased benefits based on short term income.

Get away?, thanks for explaining that to us. Not that it makes the Op feel any better or anything.

SEPT 23 1989 · 05-11-2013 01:37PM

The major difference between now and the 80's is the debt hanging over peoples heads,give me 200.00 a week dole and no debt and i would take the hand off you

Just sold my car to pay the rent

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