Ireland should be run by a company like Google!

Kettleson · 03-11-2013 09:32PM

April O Neill wrote: »

I may be going against the grain, but working for Google would give me the heebie jeebies.

They're a business, and making money is their bottom line. So all this touchy feely stuff they go on with with their employee is highly disingenuous to me or something.

I'd be very mistrustful of them, TBH.

I'd say they are trying to keep their workforce happy, healthy and motivated and to stay with them. That makes good business sense to me.

megaten · 03-11-2013 09:54PM

Kettleson wrote: »

I'd say they are trying to keep their workforce happy, healthy and motivated and to stay with them. That makes good business sense to me.

It so you're more likely to stay in the office building and work more hours overall. There not doing nice things out of the goodness of their hearts.

Teyla Emmagan · 03-11-2013 10:08PM

F7ck no. From what I know about the place it's a highly competitive working environment where people are nearly afraid to go home in case someone else gets ahead of them. And most of the people it employs are hipster w&nkers. All of those companies that go on with the 'our staff work in jeans and we have a playstation lounge!!!' are just sucking in the weak minded, that's corporate codswallop. They exist to make a PROFIT!!! And they employ the young, well educated and articulate - where would most of the population fit into this new Utopia?

And I would HATE all that enthusiasm - all those articles you see with smiling young Googlians with their lovely Italian skin and bright Danish smiles, gushing about how wonderful the place is, like Benetton models on crack. Gives me willies.

You can keep your poxy Google.

tomdempsey200 · 03-11-2013 10:12PM

google hires all the best and smartest people

what'll they do with all the fools and scumbags here?

they'd be losing money and share price nosediving

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 03-11-2013 10:17PM

I'm often amazed how people think the likes of Google, with their fun and games in the workplace nonsense, are the bee's knees. The " we're all one happy fun family" palarvour. The whole thing smacks of hoodwinking young people in to working harder for less. It's too sweet to be wholesome for me. I have seen american companies in Ireland back in the 70s who went on with stunts like family picnics and Easter eggs or Christmas hams for the staff - all unheard off in Irish businesses at the time. But they underpaid and drove staff hard. The biggest problem was they closed shop overnight and set up elsewhere when it became more profitable to do so.
I would have hated to work in the regime that seems to persist in Google and I most certainly couldn't live in a country run that way. But maybe I'm just too old for this Google world they have created and maybe it is the greatest place on earth to work outside of Disneyland.

ednwireland · 03-11-2013 10:30PM

our houses would look like this

http://www.home-designing.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/google-495x567.jpg

nooooooooooo

hansfrei · 03-11-2013 10:38PM

Great idea OP. Lets have more foreigners come bleed us dry.

Great.

Kettleson · 03-11-2013 11:06PM

megaten wrote: »

It so you're more likely to stay in the office building and work more hours overall. There not doing nice things out of the goodness of their hearts.

I didn't say they were.

Cienciano · 03-11-2013 11:19PM

Teyla Emmagan wrote: »

F7ck no. From what I know about the place it's a highly competitive working environment where people are nearly afraid to go home in case someone else gets ahead of them. And most of the people it employs are hipster w&nkers. All of those companies that go on with the 'our staff work in jeans and we have a playstation lounge!!!' are just sucking in the weak minded, that's corporate codswallop. They exist to make a PROFIT!!! And they employ the young, well educated and articulate - where would most of the population fit into this new Utopia?

And I would HATE all that enthusiasm - all those articles you see with smiling young Googlians with their lovely Italian skin and bright Danish smiles, gushing about how wonderful the place is, like Benetton models on crack. Gives me willies.

You can keep your poxy Google.

TBH, that sounds like a far far better way to run a country than the way we're doing it atm.

skinny90 · 04-11-2013 07:37PM

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/features/anonymous-employees-reveal-the-worst-thing-about-working-for-google-8921216.html
interesting article

Fighting Irish · 04-11-2013 10:03PM

FTA69 wrote: »

Yeah. Tax should only be for the ordinary worker. Perish the thought multi-billion dollar companies should have to pay anything toward society.

Ye that's right, all big corporations pay nothing towards society. I'm willing to bet google pay more towards irish society than you ever will

Eoin247 · 04-11-2013 11:32PM

hansfrei wrote: »

Great idea OP. Lets have more foreigners come bleed us dry.

Great.

This makes no sense. Did you even read the first post? Care to expand on where this comment is coming from?

And anyway foreigners have contributed far more to this country than a huge amount of irish people have. 146,000 jobs by IDA client companies tells me that we'd be in a hell of a worse situation without foreigners.

Rabelais · 04-11-2013 11:36PM

Google are increasingly giving me the creeps. Give me an old-fashioned first generation evil tech company like Microsoft. I know which one I'd rather work for if based in Dublin.

who_me · 04-11-2013 11:41PM

hfallada wrote: »

Or Ireland could be run by people who can actual run a business or have ran one. We tend to elect teachers and expect them to have the skills to run a country. I cringe when I hear politicians who have no idea how a business runs talking about what good for business. Every business person tells you rates are killing them and so are up ward rent reviews. But the current government has done nothing about them

Often thought the same. The economy should be hired by a CEO, with a big fat salary, but with aggressive short, medium and long - term goals set for him. If he gets the economy to exceed those goals, he even gets a fat bonus (he deserves it, if we're all benefitting).

Rather pay a CEO who knows what he's doing, than ridiculous TD/minister salaries & pensions who don't have the skills.

Mint Aero · 04-11-2013 11:44PM

2 14
the programme for government
five point plan
budgetary measures
fiscal policy
adjustments & amendments
Pre budget
Tally up the figures
Advisory committee
That's a matter for 'x' to decide

Copy & Paste into your speech and you too could be a politician of a real live country in 2 16

Fat Nav · 04-11-2013 11:50PM

Like him or hate him, I reckon Micheal o leary would do a good job of running the country.

hardCopy · 04-11-2013 11:50PM

You can't fire unproductive citizens from a country, this makes it hard to compare a country to a meritocratic company with queues of job applicants waiting to swap in for anyone who fails to meet targets.

Mardy Bum · 05-11-2013 12:12AM

National and international democratic politics is completely different to running a private business. The idea that Michael O Leary or some other famous CAO are automatically going to make excellent politicians is ill thought outout and naive. Politics will eat you up and spit you out, see George Lee therefore most of these CAOs would not last in the current set up. What you are calling for would need much greater reform.

I would not like to see Michael O Leary running the country anyway.

Fat Nav · 05-11-2013 12:18AM

Mardy Bum wrote: »

National and international democratic politics is completely different to running a private business. The idea that Michael O Leary or some other famous CAO are automatically going to make excellent politicians is ill thought outout and naive. Politics will eat you up and spit you out, see George Lee therefore most of these CAOs would not last in the current set up. What you are calling for would need much greater reform.

I would not like to see Michael O Leary running the country anyway.

In all fairness my point is Micheal O Leary is not a politician and that's a good thing.
We need change not the same old politicians talkin sh*te while the country goes down the tubes.

Kettleson · 05-11-2013 12:22AM

Mardy Bum wrote: »

National and international democratic politics is completely different to running a private business. The idea that Michael O Leary or some other famous CAO are automatically going to make excellent politicians is ill thought outout and naive. Politics will eat you up and spit you out, see George Lee therefore most of these CAOs would not last in the current set up. What you are calling for would need much greater reform.

I would not like to see Michael O Leary running the country anyway.

I had suggested Michael O'Leary to come in on a consultancy basis to sort the
inefficiencies and corruption out, mostly in government and the public sector and then get the hell out.. That does not involve acting in a political capacity.

Leaving clueless idiots for politicians to sort the business end of Irelands' economy is equally madness. Sure they cant even write a simple letter between them FFS.

Mardy Bum · 05-11-2013 12:25AM

Fat Nav wrote: »

In all fairness my point is Micheal O Leary is not a politician and that's a good thing.
We need change not the same old politicians talkin sh*te while the country goes down the tubes.

You want a systamtic cultural change in the country rather than just a change in politician. The only reason they are there is because of the electorate therefore the electorate must reconsider its values.

Mardy Bum · 05-11-2013 12:36AM

Kettleson wrote: »

I had suggested Michael O'Leary to come in on a consultancy basis to sort the
inefficiencies and corruption out, mostly in government and the public sector and then get the hell out.. That does not involve acting in a political capacity.

Leaving clueless idiots for politicians to sort the business end of Irelands' economy is equally madness. Sure they cant even write a simple letter between them FFS.

Senior civil servants do the job you are ascribing to MOL already. You may want to change them first. The politicians didn't write the property tax letter. The hullabaloo about it was comical also especially the TDs who said they couldn't read it. They should be the first for the chopping block.
We need a much greater social and cultural change if we want to change politics and the management of the country.

Fat Nav · 05-11-2013 12:37AM

Mardy Bum wrote: »

You want a systamtic cultural change in the country rather than just a change in politician. The only reason they are there is because of the electorate therefore the electorate must reconsider its values.

Yes we all voted them in to government and yes I am saying we need change .
I wonder if the like of O leary started up a political party and did run for the dail would people give him a chance to get this country back working..
It would have to be a better punt than any of the other shower.

Kettleson · 05-11-2013 12:38AM

Mardy Bum wrote: »

You want a systamtic cultural change in the country rather than just a change in politician. The only reason they are there is because of the electorate therefore the electorate must reconsider its values.

There is truth in that for sure, a country gets the government it deserves. No one cared at the time when the money was sloshing around.

Fat Nav · 05-11-2013 12:42AM

Mardy Bum wrote: »

Senior civil servants do the job you are ascribing to MOL already. You may want to change them first. The politicians didn't write the property tax letter. The hullabaloo about it was comical also especially the TDs who said they couldn't read it. They should be the first for the chopping block.
We need a much greater social and cultural change if we want to change politics and the management of the country.

The problem is Senior civil servants are not doing the job right but O leary would come with a management team that would get results or there would be hell to pay unlike said senior civil servants that get well paid but are asleep at the wheel.

Fat Nav · 05-11-2013 12:48AM

Kettleson wrote: »

There is truth in that for sure, a country gets the government it deserves. No one cared at the time when the money was sloshing around.

Most of us were guilty of that at the time but this government was elected in the hard times and we were fooled into believing a leopard can change its spots more fool us..
We need change

Mardy Bum · 05-11-2013 12:54AM

Fat Nav wrote: »

The problem is Senior civil servants are not doing the job right but O leary would come with a management team that would get results or there would be hell to pay unlike said senior civil servants that get well paid but are asleep at the wheel.

Do you think O'Leary along with all his management team would be as motivated seeing as the would be earning considerably less whilst being taxed to the hilt?

Fat Nav · 05-11-2013 01:01AM

Mardy Bum wrote: »

Do you think O'Leary along with all his management team would be as motivated seeing as the would be earning considerably less whilst being taxed to the hilt?

It does not have to be Mr O leary .
If they cost a hundred times the cost of the dail they would be good value if they delivered on sorting out the country.

Mardy Bum · 05-11-2013 01:15AM

Fat Nav wrote: »

It does not have to be Mr O leary .
If they cost a hundred times the cost of the dail they would be good value if they delivered on sorting out the country.

I have a feeling we would be complaining just as vociferously. CAOs of multinationals get paid far more than any public service will pay. Its hard to really say for certain how the country is doing now compared with 2008 but we should know in five years time as hindsight is 20/20

General General · 05-11-2013 01:15AM

Ireland has been run as if by a company like Google... all the money has been & is being transferred out of the country to elsewhere.

Jesus, keep up.

Ireland should be run by a company like Google!

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