Ireland should be run by a company like Google!

Eoin247 · 03-11-2013 04:05PM #1

I was having a discussion with some friends a while back about what the best system for a country was. We've been brought up to believe that our version of democracy is the best. However, recent economic problems have shown otherwise.

What is Ireland were to be run by a company like Google? Think about it:

-Employees have some of the best (many say the best) working conditions in the world.

-The work performance difference between current public sector workers and google employees is huge.

-Far more efficient, and more motivation to get things done correctly.

-Highly profitable

-Recession resistant

-When politicians face a problem they usualy state what should/shouldn't be done based on old methods, while google and it's engineers innovate to get through a problem. E.g, There's an energy shortage. Energy curfews may be imposed in a normal country. Google on the other hand would innovate to get through this problem. At the 2008 world economic forum the google founders proposed invention and investment to solve energy problems. Al gore on the other hand proposed more taxation and regulation to solve the problems.

-More shiny google buildings in dublin! (:pac:)

pebbles21 · 03-11-2013 04:11PM

Ireland is already been run by Google!

wazky · 03-11-2013 04:11PM

Suppose it could work, it runs like Internet Explorer at the moment.

cantdecide · 03-11-2013 04:12PM

What role will the current corrupt elite be given in your socialist paradise?

Nodin · 03-11-2013 04:13PM

wazky wrote: »

Suppose it could work, it runs like Internet Explorer at the moment.

More DOS/Windows 3.1.

FTA69 · 03-11-2013 04:13PM

Is this the Google that engages in massive tax avoidance?

losthorizon · 03-11-2013 04:16PM

Google is only 15!

I used to work for Kodak which was a highly successful company and hugely thought of. Now its regarded as a joke. Come back in 100 years time and start the thread again. They don't even trade Kodak shares on the stock exchange anymore when they used to be one of the Top 100 Dow Jones American Companies.

DeVore · 03-11-2013 04:17PM

I dunno how much I fancy being at the bottom of the ladder in Googleland...

http://gizmodo.com/5797022/googles-secret-class-system

KyussBishop · 03-11-2013 04:29PM

So our government can secretly spy on us and reveal our information, at the request of the US? (probably not that different to now in that regard though)

Smiles35 · 03-11-2013 04:33PM

Tell me you and your friends aren't connected to google or eyeing up jobs there op and I'll take this serious.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 03-11-2013 04:34PM

Run by a company that avoids tax and keeps all that data on people? Spying on citizens as well?
Is that not what we have at present.
They also would only work for profit at the expense of the poor and unemployed surely.

Pushtrak · 03-11-2013 04:36PM

Google also has a very rigorous application process. I think that's the important lesson from Google.

DeVore · 03-11-2013 04:39PM

Google are, to be fair, unlikely to hire a secondary school teacher to be CEO.

So I guess the idea has that going for it...

Ruu · 03-11-2013 04:56PM

Would prefer someone more like Mozilla.

D1stant · 03-11-2013 05:11PM

Google have done a remarkable creating this cool image that the public has swallowed - for what is fundamentally a very uncool company. These guys monitor everyones daily activity, profile and formulate what to sell to you. They have more knowledge of Internet activity than anyone else - including the NSA. And they use every trick in the book to pay as little taxes as possible and maximise revenue

Big Brother is here.

Fighting Irish · 03-11-2013 05:36PM

Kate Ancient Wolverine wrote: »

Run by a company that avoids tax and keeps all that data on people? Spying on citizens as well?
Is that not what we have at present.
They also would only work for profit at the expense of the poor and unemployed surely.

:rolleyes:

Why pay money you don't have to?

Fox_In_Socks · 03-11-2013 05:54PM

Fighting Irish wrote: »

:rolleyes:

Why pay money you don't have to?

cough we're Irish cough

cml387 · 03-11-2013 06:07PM

Ruubot2 wrote: »

Would prefer someone more like Mozilla.

Godzilla, shurely?

TelePaul · 03-11-2013 06:28PM

DeVore wrote: »

I dunno how much I fancy being at the bottom of the ladder in Googleland...

http://gizmodo.com/5797022/googles-secret-class-system

They were really scraping the barrel with that one, it's a terrible article.

FTA69 · 03-11-2013 06:46PM

Fighting Irish wrote: »

:rolleyes:

Why pay money you don't have to?

Yeah. Tax should only be for the ordinary worker. Perish the thought multi-billion dollar companies should have to pay anything toward society.

theblaqueguy · 03-11-2013 06:50PM

No thanks I wouldn't want the country being run by a big corporation like google because all they care about is profit and they wouldn't care about the irish people
I'd prefer if bertie was running the country again over google any day

Annasopra · 03-11-2013 06:50PM

FTA69 wrote: »

Yeah. Tax should only be for the ordinary worker. Perish the thought multi-billion dollar companies should have to pay anything toward society.

Of course not!

Pushtrak · 03-11-2013 06:51PM

theblaqueguy wrote: »

No thanks I wouldn't want the country being run by a big corporation like google because all they care about is profit and they wouldn't care about the irish people
I'd prefer if bertie was running the country again over google any day

He was clearly talking about the work culture rather than corporate culture, as such.

DonkeyStyle \o/ · 03-11-2013 07:30PM

I suppose in a company, if you were making a balls of everything, you'd have a harder time talking your way out of it, brushing off criticisms and giving non-answers to direct questions... it'd probably get you nicely sacked.

Kettleson · 03-11-2013 07:48PM

I'd get someone like Michael O'Leary in on a consultancy basis to sort out all the waste and corruption in the running of Ireland.

But then of course after the clean up, it would be left in the hands of greedy, corrupt idiots, again.

hfallada · 03-11-2013 08:55PM

Or Ireland could be run by people who can actual run a business or have ran one. We tend to elect teachers and expect them to have the skills to run a country. I cringe when I hear politicians who have no idea how a business runs talking about what good for business. Every business person tells you rates are killing them and so are up ward rent reviews. But the current government has done nothing about them

Cody Pomeray · 03-11-2013 08:56PM

Eoin247 wrote: »

I was having a discussion with some friends a while back about what the best system for a country was. We've been brought up to believe that our version of democracy is the best. However, recent economic problems have shown otherwise.

What is Ireland were to be run by a company like Google?

A society is not a commercial enterprise.

Google has one fundamental objective: sell internet services at a profit.

"Ireland", i.e. the society of human beings that is based on this island, has a wide variety of objectives, pertinent to each individual member, some more widely shared than others.

The role of the Government is merely to enhance the overall welfare of the community of human beings on the island, not to "sell" a product, nor even to balance the bottom line on the accounts.

You just cannot compare Google to a society. I do not believe Irish people want a society that only undertakes financially profitable projects, and which neglects activities that are un-profitable.

I'm sorry OP but it's just a really naive idea. It lacks any understanding of the difference between a society, and a corporation.

Im not Miley Cyrus · 03-11-2013 08:57PM

We need a shrewd, intelligent and effective man as Minster for Finance.

Michael O' Leary.

Cienciano · 03-11-2013 09:06PM

DeVore wrote: »

I dunno how much I fancy being at the bottom of the ladder in Googleland...

http://gizmodo.com/5797022/googles-secret-class-system

TelePaul wrote: »

They were really scraping the barrel with that one, it's a terrible article.

A colour for interns, a colour for contractors, and one for full timers? Have to agree with Telepaul, not exactly apartheid

Kettleson · 03-11-2013 09:12PM

hfallada wrote: »

Or Ireland could be run by people who can actual run a business or have ran one. We tend to elect teachers and expect them to have the skills to run a country. I cringe when I hear politicians who have no idea how a business runs talking about what good for business. Every business person tells you rates are killing them and so are up ward rent reviews. But the current government has done nothing about them

...

...and how lacking in foresight or intelligence to not pay self employed people any social welfare for 6 months if their business goes bust...not much incentive there for new business start-up there. Sheer madness.

April O Neill · 03-11-2013 09:25PM

I may be going against the grain, but working for Google would give me the heebie jeebies.

They're a business, and making money is their bottom line. So all this touchy feely stuff they go on with with their employee is highly disingenuous to me or something.

I'd be very mistrustful of them, TBH.

Ireland should be run by a company like Google!

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