First time on luas!

nino1 · 03-11-2013 10:30AM #1

Started getting the luas this week fir tgs first time. Red line.
Was a bit shocked at the fare evasion I've seen.

First one was a well to do young gentleman who didnt have a ticket. The inspector was in the middle of asking him for his details and he said this is my stop and walked out. The inspector followed him out but he just kept walking away!

The second case was a scumbag who told the inspector to fu#k off and didnt even bother getting off the luas for anothef two stops until be finished his racist rant.

Is there really nothing that the inspectors can do if a person simply decides to walk away at the next stop?

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy · 03-11-2013 10:32AM

Try it and see. Then you'll know. Please report back.

sonny jim bob jones · 03-11-2013 10:36AM

I use the green line Huey Lewis. All fare evaders are scum, regardless of appearance.

strobe · 03-11-2013 10:38AM

I'd imagine they could call the police as it's basically theft, isn't it? Same as if you get your hair cut in the hairdresser's and then walk off without paying? But they can't tackle someone to the ground or anything.

Did see two gardai and four inspectors with 5 or 6 people lined up at the Windy Arbour stop on the green line recently.

03-11-2013 10:39AM

Why the hell don't they have barriers/gates to go through like the Underground in London? There's NO incentive to pay! Ridiculous situation.

03-11-2013 10:40AM

Red Line = Free Junkie Transport

nino1 · 03-11-2013 10:41AM

Johnny Electricity wrote: »

Try it and see. Then you'll know. Please report back.

I dont need to try it. If you read the op you will see what happens. Nothing!

JustAddWater · 03-11-2013 10:43AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Why the hell don't they have barriers/gates to go through like the Underground in London? There's NO incentive to pay! Ridiculous situation.

Because it's not underground?

03-11-2013 10:43AM

Did you get the Luas during the night or day? During the night they regularly have rather large security guards, that get on and off at random stops, who would be there to back up the inspectors.

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy · 03-11-2013 10:46AM

nino1 wrote: »

I dont need to try it. If you read the op you will see what happens. Nothing!

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/luas-fare-cheats-hit-with-fines-of-455000-26323536.html

Whilst prosecution levels are relatively low, they do happen.

mfceiling · 03-11-2013 10:46AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Did you get the Luas during the night or day? During the night they regularly have rather large security guards, that get on and off at random stops, who would be there to back up the inspectors.

I presume they can not physically detain you for non payment?

I've seen lads just ignore them before, then walk off at the next stop....always on the red line though - never the posh green.

nino1 · 03-11-2013 10:47AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Did you get the Luas during the night or day? During the night they regularly have rather large security guards, that get on and off at random stops, who would be there to back up the inspectors.

They dont have the power to detain someone who decides to walk away.

03-11-2013 10:49AM

JustAddWater wrote: »

Because it's not underground?

True. Surely they could have done something similar, with barriers or gates. The cost of erecting them would be made back in people actually paying their fares!

nino1 · 03-11-2013 10:53AM

Johnny Electricity wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/luas-fare-cheats-hit-with-fines-of-455000-26323536.html

Whilst prosecution levels are relatively low, they do happen.

So they won't say how many of the fines are paid because its obviously ridiculously low.

Why is the fine only €45. Thats going to encourage evasion even more.

LordSutch · 03-11-2013 11:12AM

nino1 wrote: »

First time on luas!

Apart from the fare evasion its a very nice system, and the trams are state of the art.
Will be very interesting to see the Red line connected to the Green line!

Drakares · 03-11-2013 11:23AM

Omackeral wrote: »

Red Line = Free Junkie Transport

Truest statement I've seen all morning.

errlloyd · 03-11-2013 11:28AM

I'm pretty sure Luas is Hilariously profitable compared to other public transport in Dublin, I think the honour system works reasonably well. I regularly go the whole green line, brides Glen to Stephens green. I almost always get checked. So

suicide_circus · 03-11-2013 11:31AM

a hefty dose of sarin pumped into the red line luas trams at off peak hours would reduce the states SW bill significantly

phasers · 03-11-2013 12:05PM

Deleted User wrote: »

True. Surely they could have done something similar, with barriers or gates. The cost of erecting them would be made back in people actually paying their fares!

I'd love to see how they put a barrier on this

thecatspjs · 03-11-2013 12:10PM

phasers wrote: »

I'd love to see how they put a barrier on this

Velvet rope and a bouncer with a clipboard

mikemac1 · 03-11-2013 12:14PM

They just love to skip the skangers and target the quiet office workers who won't talk back.

Got checked one morning, fair 'nuff but I wasn't next in line, he went straight past the lads giving him comments about Africa and checked the rest of us

MJ23 · 03-11-2013 12:16PM

The Daniel Day.
Been on it several times, always bought a ticket. Never even seen a ticket inspector.

EyeSight · 03-11-2013 12:42PM

They usually skip over the skangers

I don't get why the Luas needs to stop for a few seconds right before the stephens green stop. Even if there's no other tram around, it will stop, wait and then go the rest of the 50 meters. It's so slow from Charlemont to SG

Grayson · 03-11-2013 12:45PM

I tagged on with a leap card last time I used the LUAS (I don't use it often). I got a huge slagging off the skangers on the tram because I paid.

Santa Cruz · 03-11-2013 12:50PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Why the hell don't they have barriers/gates to go through like the Underground in London? There's NO incentive to pay! Ridiculous situation.

No barriers on the underground in Berlin.
The antics in Dublin just reflect the criminality widespread in Irish society

Gongoozler · 03-11-2013 12:51PM

I travel daily on the luas, there are very often inspectors on it. Annoyingly often. Much more than Dublin bus. The price of it surely means there's lots of money being made. The fine system though seems stupid. Can give any name and address no one would ever know. What kind of stupid would you have to be to give your real name / address.

Turtyturd · 03-11-2013 12:59PM

Gongoozler wrote: »

I travel daily on the luas, there are very often inspectors on it. Annoyingly often. Much more than Dublin bus. The price of it surely means there's lots of money being made. The fine system though seems stupid. Can give any name and address no one would ever know. What kind of stupid would you have to be to give your real name / address.

Dublin bus tend to target buses heading to colleges/schools with their inspectors...have never seen one on the red line equivalent, the 27. Are on the 66/67 once a week though...and even then they Will ignore the ones who might give the hassle.

iDave · 03-11-2013 01:13PM

EyeSight wrote: »

They usually skip over the skangers

I don't get why the Luas needs to stop for a few seconds right before the stephens green stop. Even if there's no other tram around, it will stop, wait and then go the rest of the 50 meters. It's so slow from Charlemont to SG

its waiting for the point to change so it can go into the correct platform. The DART is far more notorious for pointless random stopping

Larianne · 03-11-2013 01:20PM

Jeez, there's always inspectors on the Luas. On the Red Line it's between Heuston Station & Bus Aras. And on the Green line they usually get on around Milltown.

I like their little trick of 'pretending' to get on the Luas and watch for people hurridly getting off the Luas when they see the inspectors. Inspectors then hop off the Luas just as the doors close and catch the 'escapees' on the platform. :pac:

It'll be interesting alright when the Red and Green line hook up.

markpb · 03-11-2013 01:20PM

iDave wrote: »

its waiting for the point to change so it can go into the correct platform. The DART is far more notorious for pointless random stopping

The signals on the Luas are driver operated, they're not automatic like the Dart which us why it has to stop.

And you're right, at least when Luas drivers have to change, they do it at Sandyford stop, not a spot 100m past Sandyford leaving passengers wondering if something has broken.

hfallada · 03-11-2013 01:24PM

Does anyone know why it was built in the first place? When you think of Tallaght, you don't think of an amazing place to live. At least with the Dublin metro, although it was the GDP of an African nation it would have connected the airport with the city centre.

First time on luas!

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