Do revenue check facebook accounts?

banie01 · 02-11-2013 08:03PM

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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Agreed.
Same person was also involved in an ''I need a bigger council house to save my kids sharing rooms, sure aren't I entitled!'' ****storm a few years later too.

bladespin · 02-11-2013 08:07PM

Morph the Cat wrote: »

I'm going to have to assume you're not a Private Detective by profession.

Off the top of my head, I can think of a few common sense ways to confirm if it's genuinely the person or not:
1) Contact them via e-mail or phone enquiring about making an order and confirm it's them.
2) Are they posting from their home IP address? This can be legally requested from their ISP & FB if required for court. Prob not even necessary to go that far though, but can be done if necessary to confirm it was not a fake account.
3) Are they in any photos on their FB business page? Most people I know who do this, have photos up of themselves working in their home workshop; whether sculpting, or re-vamping old furniture, etc.

As I said, it's information, you can use that to collect evidence if you want but it's not evidence in itself.

Morph the Cat wrote: »

They're mutually exclusive? :rolleyes: Not the sharpest tool, are you? Go put some callcards in the freezer.

Yes, they are mutually exclusive, one is considered fact, the other cannot be anything more than rumour. I'm sharp enough not to make an idiot out of myself by pretending to be a legal expert of Facebook when I'm not, you should consider doing the same, pity it's a bit late, the evidence it already out there

General General · 02-11-2013 09:14PM

Electric Sheep wrote: »

Maybe Tom should stop bullish!tting on Facebook so.

Eh... that was kind of my initial point.

Femme_Fatale · 03-11-2013 02:26AM

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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It is?

donegal__road wrote: »

musicians have been monitored on Facebook by revenue

snubbleste wrote: »

I know Revenue were going to supermarkets, checking the small ads on noticeboards and pursuing them.
It would not surprise me if they are following through online also.

Are these definitely true?

I reckon an organisation will only check Facebook as a last resort when it comes to people who appear on their radar. People like to come up with theories, but these places are pretty mundane.

Cody Pomeray · 03-11-2013 02:29AM

Stheno wrote: »

Irish Revenue has one of the most highly sophisticated IT setups in Europe

Do you have anything to substantiate that?

As efficient as Revenue can be on a personal basis, the above has not been my experience. Although Revenue generally "talk to" the other arms of the state, it seems that Revenue rarely "listen back", or so my experience would suggest.

[-0-] · 03-11-2013 03:30AM

Feck spying on their facebutt pages. Give them all drugs tests, including testing for booze.

Fred Swanson · 03-11-2013 03:57AM

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03-11-2013 10:50AM

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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I suppose the question has to be, how did the suspects become suspect?
I can't imagine the revenue having the resources to scroll through every tax payers facebook page.

So, presumably, they only target ones that have been brought to their attention.

snubbleste · 03-11-2013 11:30AM

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Are these definitely true?
I reckon an organisation will only check Facebook as a last resort when it comes to people who appear on their radar. People like to come up with theories, but these places are pretty mundane.

Yep
July 2013: Tax inspectors will now be monitoring classified service adverts, internet notices and even business premises to verify tax compliance across a range of sectors. http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/revenue-targets-classified-ads-in-crackdown-on-black-economy-29384948.html

Capt'n Midnight · 03-11-2013 01:54PM

Twiki wrote: »

Loads of those facebook accounts are probably held offshore too.

Acually fb is based here for anyone who isn't based in the US.

It's our Office of the Data Protection Commissioner who regulates it https://www.facebook.com/legal/terms

If you are a resident of or have your principal place of business in the US or Canada, this Statement is an agreement between you and Facebook, Inc. Otherwise, this Statement is an agreement between you and Facebook Ireland Limited.

Come to Ireland, Low Taxes, Lax Regulation

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/25/irish_data_protection_commissioner_faces_possible_court_action_over_alleged_facebook_prism_data_harvesting/

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/07/30/irish_watchdog_wont_probe_apple_facebook_over_prism/

ringadingding · 03-11-2013 02:04PM

On an aside, can I just say anytime I've had to deal with the revenue service, the service has been impeccable, fast and correctly handled.

Very rare to find in a government organisation.

Credit where it's due

pennypitstop · 06-11-2013 01:32AM

The amount of new facebook business pages that pop up around this time of the year just in time to milk the Xmas season, lots of handmade stuff, with no website, very little details just a mobile number or PM to order & pay through paypal.

Very likely (imo) that a lot of these are not legitimate businesses and are just out to make a fast buck while probably doing irreprable damage to established shops in their locallity who obviously have to charge more to cover the costs involved in running a proper biz & paying overheads, rates, tax etc.

May seem harmless enough or small-fry to some & maybe even they themselves don't realise it, but shop owners can be badly affected by this when they should be having their busiest time of the year.

bladespin · 08-11-2013 10:36PM

pennypitstop wrote: »

The amount of new facebook business pages that pop up around this time of the year just in time to milk the Xmas season, lots of handmade stuff, with no website, very little details just a mobile number or PM to order & pay through paypal.

Very likely (imo) that a lot of these are not legitimate businesses and are just out to make a fast buck while probably doing irreprable damage to established shops in their locallity who obviously have to charge more to cover the costs involved in running a proper biz & paying overheads, rates, tax etc.

May seem harmless enough or small-fry to some & maybe even they themselves don't realise it, but shop owners can be badly affected by this when they should be having their busiest time of the year.

Mostly cottage industry, like those shops probably were starting off, I guess, we all start somewhere, most of the time it's out of a car boot, I can't see how they could be damaging anyone.

I'd honestly rather buy something handmade than mass produced.

Do revenue check facebook accounts?

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