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Farming Chit Chat III

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  • #2132
    whelan1
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    anyone watching fair city, was class tonight


  • #2133
    Conmaicne Mara
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    whelan1 wrote: »
    anyone watching fair city, was class tonight

    Was Christy cooking meth or something :D

    Avoid it like the plague!


  • #2134
    Bizzum
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    TITANIUM. wrote: »
    Housed a fresin cow today to help feed a ped ch bull calf. His mother is a fine cow but christ those charolais's are poor for milk.

    Careful now. SOME Charolais are poor, others have no problem rearing their calf.


  • #2135
    TITANIUM.
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    Bizzum wrote: »
    Careful now. SOME Charolais are poor, others have no problem rearing their calf.

    Spot on. She has enough to rear him alright. But not enough to drive him on.
    R u a ch man urself?


  • #2136
    Bizzum
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    TITANIUM. wrote: »
    Spot on. She has enough to rear him alright. But not enough to drive him on.
    R u a ch man urself?

    Yeah, we have a couple of PB Ch cows. I went on a crusade a number of years ago to improve quality and increase milk.

    I'm not really a fan of blowing up ped stock. If the cow and normal creep can't do the job, I'm not interested!


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  • #2137
    Western Pomise
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    whelan1 wrote: »
    anyone watching fair city, was class tonight
    Was v hard up for viewing,saw the last ten minutes,the knife that stabbed Paddy was so obviously one of those fake ones from a joke shop for around a euro!!;)........our licence fee deserves better props.


  • #2138
    quadboy
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    right need some wise heads here, dont really know wether to keep or sell the bullocks, their around 20 months old, i was told id get good money if i sold them, if i was to keep them how much nuts would they need over the winter and when would i be looking to sell


  • #2139
    darragh_haven
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    quadboy wrote: »
    right need some wise heads here, dont really know wether to keep or sell the bullocks, their around 20 months old, i was told id get good money if i sold them, if i was to keep them how much nuts would they need over the winter and when would i be looking to sell

    If you could carry them, I think you should try and finish them. Give them good silage with very little, if any at all, nuts. Then finish off grass before 30 months.
    If you don't want to finish them, I reckon you might as well cash in on them now.
    Ps. I am not the wise head, my dad is the brains of the operation


  • #2140
    quadboy
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    darragh_haven wrote: »
    If you could carry them, I think you should try and finish them. Give them good silage with very little, if any at all, nuts. Then finish off grass before 30 months.
    If you don't want to finish them, I reckon you might as well cash in on them now.
    Ps. I am not the wise head, my dad is the brains of the operation

    i was told they would only go back if i just gave them silage, i wouldnt mind keeping them as i have plenty of silage and they will most likely be the only animals here in the spring/summer, between 900 and 1000 is what i was told they should make


  • #2141
    darragh_haven
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    quadboy wrote: »
    i was told they would only go back if i just gave them silage, i wouldnt mind keeping them as i have plenty of silage and they will most likely be the only animals here in the spring/summer, between 900 and 1000 is what i was told they should make

    We'd only give nuts if they were finished for the factory before the spring. Good silage will still add weight but obviously they'll gain more if they are getting 3 to 4kg of nuts. The question is, will they make a profitable return on the cost of the nuts.


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  • #2142
    TITANIUM.
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    Bizzum wrote: »
    Yeah, we have a couple of PB Ch cows. I went on a crusade a number of years ago to improve quality and increase milk.

    I'm not really a fan of blowing up ped stock. If the cow and normal creep can't do the job, I'm not interested!

    Were only starting out in um now in fairness. Good maternal sires that dont compromise to much on the terminal side are not to plentiful
    Ordered a few straws of Repair yesterday
    A very good blend imo.


  • #2143
    Bizzum
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    TITANIUM. wrote: »
    Were only starting out in um now in fairness. Good maternal sires that dont compromise to much on the terminal side are not to plentiful
    Ordered a few straws of Repair yesterday
    A very good blend imo.

    And it's a marathon rather than a sprint. It takes time to know the weakness of your own stock. Then all's you've to do is breed out the weakness!

    Simple:eek:

    Best of luck with the Charolais. Hard to beat a good one!


  • #2144
    TITANIUM.
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    Bizzum wrote: »
    And it's a marathon rather than a sprint. It takes time to know the weakness of your own stock. Then all's you've to do is breed out the weakness!

    Simple:eek:

    Best of luck with the Charolais. Hard to beat a good one!

    True for ya.
    Any dealings with Mozart?


  • #2145
    quadboy
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    darragh_haven wrote: »
    We'd only give nuts if they were finished for the factory before the spring. Good silage will still add weight but obviously they'll gain more if they are getting 3 to 4kg of nuts. The question is, will they make a profitable return on the cost of the nuts.

    theres only 6 of them so wouldnt you be talkin less than a bag a day. tis hard to know wat to do when you have a few different fellas telling you different things


  • #2146
    Sharpshooter82
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    quadboy wrote: »
    theres only 6 of them so wouldnt you be talkin less than a bag a day. tis hard to know wat to do when you have a few different fellas telling you different things

    Yeah I know what ya mean,been there many times myself. best thing to do is have a good think about it and weigh up your pros and cons and when your happy with your decision, stick with it and don't second guess yourself after :)


  • #2147
    TITANIUM.
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    quadboy wrote: »
    right need some wise heads here, dont really know wether to keep or sell the bullocks, their around 20 months old, i was told id get good money if i sold them, if i was to keep them how much nuts would they need over the winter and when would i be looking to sell

    I've a neighbour that buys n and finishes bulls. He in the same position as you with a few of um. He reckons that prices will pick up round two weeks into November. Hes a shrewd operator. It depends how far along they are tho. Would you class them as forward stores?


  • #2148
    Sharpshooter82
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    TITANIUM. wrote: »
    I've a neighbour that buys n and finishes bulls. He in the same position as you with a few of um. He reckons that prices will pick up round two weeks into November. Hes a shrewd operator. It depends how far along they are tho. Would you class them as forward stores?

    I was told something similar about a month ago when I was thinking of selling my bullocks, I took the advice and holding them till near dec


  • #2149
    quadboy
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    Sharpshooter82 wrote: »
    Yeah I know what ya mean,been there many times myself. best thing to do is have a good think about it and weigh up your pros and cons and when your happy with your decision, stick with it and don't second guess yourself after :)

    Im happy to keep them and give them a bit of nuts but some ppl are making it sound like they will waste away once they go inside unless u pump them full of nuts


  • #2150
    Sharpshooter82
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    quadboy wrote: »
    Im happy to keep them and give them a bit of nuts but some ppl are making it sound like they will waste away once they go inside unless u pump them full of nuts

    Couldn't see that happening but you would be better adviced by some of the more experienced operators on here quad boy than myself


  • #2151
    quadboy
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    TITANIUM. wrote: »
    I've a neighbour that buys n and finishes bulls. He in the same position as you with a few of um. He reckons that prices will pick up round two weeks into November. Hes a shrewd operator. It depends how far along they are tho. Would you class them as forward stores?

    forward store? i dont even know wat a backward store is:pac:


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  • #2152
    TITANIUM.
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    quadboy wrote: »
    forward store? i dont even know wat a backward store is:pac:

    Ah tis just fancy talk for being closer to finishing than your standard animal. In other words how fat r they?


  • #2153
    1chippy
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    quadboy wrote: »
    theres only 6 of them so wouldnt you be talkin less than a bag a day. tis hard to know wat to do when you have a few different fellas telling you different things
    Ive 6 dairy bred bullocks here,15-16 months old 390-410kg not good enough to make a twist on so im going to winter them. ad lib silage and 2 kilo a day is what i'm giving them. i was going to cut them off the meal in feb and start pushing them from may on.
    what weight are they?
    if your not far off finishing a bag a day seems ok. but if its just to winter them it can lead to some serious expenses. at 7 euro per bag (roughly) times say 150 days thats over 1k. thats another 150 per animal you will have to make before anything else is even concidered and they still mightnt be fit for slaughter.


  • #2154
    quadboy
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    hmm i dont think their near finishing yet, so you start them on the meal again in may to finish them. the lad telling me to keep them is a suckler farmer and the one telling me to sell now is a sheep farmer who buys a few calves and sells around this time


  • #2155
    TITANIUM.
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    quadboy wrote: »
    hmm i dont think their near finishing yet, so you start them on the meal again in may to finish them. the lad telling me to keep them is a suckler farmer and the one telling me to sell now is a sheep farmer who buys a few calves and sells around this time

    You could always split um to hedge your bets. Sell the 3 best lads now and hold onto the other 3. Record everything and contrast the two next year
    It might take some of the guess work put for you im the future. Theres so many variables its impossible to pit a figure on either option.


  • #2156
    Bizzum
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    TITANIUM. wrote: »
    Any dealings with Mozart?

    Only on commercial cows, and we never used much of him. We'd run a Ch stock bull so don't use that much Ch AI.


  • #2157
    TITANIUM.
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    Bizzum wrote: »
    Only on commercial cows, and we never used much of him. We'd run a Ch stock bull so don't use that much Ch AI.

    Do ye find it hard to sell the bulls off yere own lad? Seems to be allot of on the market at any one time.


  • #2158
    Bizzum
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    TITANIUM. wrote: »
    Do ye find it hard to sell the bulls off yere own lad? Seems to be allot of on the market at any one time.


    I should have said, we use all AI on the Pedigrees. AI Ba, Lim, Sim, and Ch. We don't keep many pedigrees, but cross em with all sorts!
    To answer your question, a good bull will always have a customer, we bred some lovely bulls and some not as lovely but such is life.


  • #2159
    TITANIUM.
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    Right that's me anyway lads. Work in the morning so I'll be seeing ye.


  • #2160
    whelan1
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    Collected parcel from parcel motel very handy


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  • #2161
    bbam
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    whelan1 wrote: »
    Collected parcel from parcel motel very handy

    Just a question on this.
    If you opened your package and there was a banana in it rather whatever you bought. Where do you stand as someone in the north has signed for the package as acceptable. Even if the item was in pieces, it's been signed for by a stranger that's it's perfect.
    Just wondering. ?


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