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Google revenue diverted through Ireland 'to make amends for Black & Tans' - Brit MP

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  • #2
    pablomakaveli
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭pablomakaveli


    I'm surprised he even knows what the Black and Tans are. Most people i've met in Britain know next to nothing about Irish history.


  • #3
    Sir Humphrey Appleby
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    pablomakaveli wrote: »
    Most people i've met in Britain know next to nothing about Irish history.

    Most people in Ireland don't either!


  • #4
    Grandeeod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Grandeeod


    Sir Humphrey Appleby wrote: »
    Most people in Ireland don't either!

    Bull****e!


  • #5
    mark renton
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,696 ✭✭✭mark renton


    Sir Humphrey Appleby wrote: »
    Most people in Ireland don't either!

    Hated history in secondary school...


  • #6
    Grandeeod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Grandeeod


    Just another misguided comment from a British official. He's attempting to use historical events to explain the actions of a multinational. Im surprised he didnt use the term paddy and claim there was IRA involement.

    I dislike ignorance, but a lot of UK politics and media are full of it.


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  • #7
    Sir Humphrey Appleby
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    Grandeeod wrote: »
    Just another misguided comment from a British official. He's attempting to use historical events to explain the actions of a multinational. Im surprised he didnt use the term paddy and claim there was IRA involement.

    I dislike ignorance, but a lot of UK politics and media are full of it.

    He is not an official, he is an elected representative, big difference.
    He is however an idiot!


  • #8
    mark renton
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,696 ✭✭✭mark renton


    I think we should give him the benefit of the doubt - for thinking outside of the box like


  • #9
    Stojkovic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 981 ✭✭✭Stojkovic


    Grandeeod wrote: »
    Bull****e!

    No its true.

    They believe what De Valera and that McQuad fcuker told them to teach in schools.


  • #10
    LoonyLovegood
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,068 ✭✭✭LoonyLovegood


    Gombeen! I literally facepalmed reading that one.


  • #11
    Karl Stein
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,687 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    If only we'd stayed in the 'union', eh? London/England wouldn't have had to put up with upstarts like us drawing business away from them.


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  • #12
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,918 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    He has a point, though, to an extent. An extremely uncomfortable phase between us and the Brits, after British (Central) rule, has morphed into a case where Britain treats Ireland quite favourably both economically and politically, in the grand scheme of things. Considering the history between our two countries, and with Irish bombs going off on the mainland UK not so long ago, they take an extremely conciliatory tone with us. Quite different to Argentina, for example, whom they've also had issues with during a similar timeframe.


  • #13
    ScumLord
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,787 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    We should all be thanking the British for allowing google to operate in Ireland.

    Will this be like the 12 days of Christmas? Next Microsoft will be making up for the potato famine fiasco.
    double Irish Dutch sandwich
    I'm I the only one that thinks that's a great name for a porno?


  • #14
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,918 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ScumLord wrote: »
    We should all be thanking the British for allowing google to operate in Ireland.

    In the British media for the last while there has been quite loud talk from a lot of people about how these tech companies are avoiding tax by using their Irish bases to close sales that have essentially been made in Britain. Among other things.

    Nobody is saying that we should be thanking Britain, but with the way a lot of people go on around here they would probably be complaining about the situation too were they British and missing out on all that lovely tax.


  • #15
    Karl Stein
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,687 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    Rojomcdojo wrote: »
    they take an extremely conciliatory tone with us.

    Ugh.. how sickening. You'd nearly think, by your fawning, we were the ones who colonised Britain, threw people off their land, suppressed their culture/language, presided over a devastating famine etc.

    No, you'd rather go with the 'they've been ever so nice to us despite our monstrous treatment of them - aren't we lucky'.

    Forelock tugging shite.


  • #16
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,918 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Carlos Roca wrote: »
    Ugh.. how sickening. You'd nearly think, by your fawning, we were the ones who colonised Britain, threw people off their land, suppressed their culture/language, presided over a devastating famine etc.

    No, you'd rather go with the 'they've been ever so nice to us despite our monstrous treatment of them - aren't we lucky'.

    Forelock tugging shite.

    I would see it more as an objective view of the global geopolitical landscape relating to us and Britain, rather than "fawning". Take a chill pill.


  • #17
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Carlos Roca wrote: »
    Ugh.. how sickening. You'd nearly think, by your fawning, we were the ones who colonised Britain, threw people off their land, suppressed their culture/language, presided over a devastating famine etc.

    No, you'd rather go with the 'they've been ever so nice to us despite our monstrous treatment of them - aren't we lucky'.

    Forelock tugging shite.

    Why do people in Wales still speak welsh ?


  • #18
    Frank Lee Midere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,780 ✭✭✭Frank Lee Midere


    Stojkovic wrote: »
    No its true.

    They believe what De Valera and that McQuad fcuker told them to teach in schools.

    Which is apparantly not the Black and Tans?


  • #19
    harryr711
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 222 ✭✭harryr711


    Rojomcdojo wrote: »
    He has a point, though, to an extent. An extremely uncomfortable phase between us and the Brits, after British (Central) rule, has morphed into a case where Britain treats Ireland quite favourably both economically and politically, in the grand scheme of things. Considering the history between our two countries, and with Irish bombs going off on the mainland UK not so long ago, they take an extremely conciliatory tone with us. Quite different to Argentina, for example, whom they've also had issues with during a similar timeframe.
    Naive is the word that comes to mind.


  • #20
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,918 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    harryr711 wrote: »
    Naive is the word that comes to mind.

    Are you going to say why? Or is that it?


  • #21
    keith16
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭keith16


    How fucking wrong is it that Google can sell their products "through" Ireland, but they don't physically sell any of their products to the Irish market?


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  • #22
    Frank Lee Midere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,780 ✭✭✭Frank Lee Midere


    Rojomcdojo wrote: »
    In the British media for the last while there has been quite loud talk from a lot of people about how these tech companies are avoiding tax by using their Irish bases to close sales that have essentially been made in Britain. Among other things.

    Nobody is saying that we should be thanking Britain, but with the way a lot of people go on around here they would probably be complaining about the situation too were they British and missing out on all that lovely tax.

    The problem with that statement, despite the sleeveenism is this: Google is not avoiding tax in Britain. Companies don't owe corporation tax where they sell but where they are incorporated. Which is here.


    But they are avoiding tax here.


  • #23
    Frank Lee Midere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,780 ✭✭✭Frank Lee Midere


    keith16 wrote: »
    How fucking wrong is it that Google can sell their products "through" Ireland, but they don't physically sell any of their products to the Irish market?

    What now? What does that even mean? They sell software services - here and there.


  • #24
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Rojomcdojo wrote: »
    He has a point, though, to an extent. An extremely uncomfortable phase between us and the Brits, after British (Central) rule, has morphed into a case where Britain treats Ireland quite favourably both economically and politically, in the grand scheme of things. Considering the history between our two countries, and with Irish bombs going off on the mainland UK not so long ago, they take an extremely conciliatory tone with us. Quite different to Argentina, for example, whom they've also had issues with during a similar timeframe.

    But the Irish government didnt have much to do with those bombs, big difference


  • #25
    Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo


    1. Make reparations for an Gorta Mor please 'boys'.

    2. Continue to subsidise the statelet in the north ye created for the next 50 years before ye hand it back.

    3. Stop polluting the Irish Sea.


  • #26
    Karl Stein
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,687 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    Rojomcdojo wrote: »
    I would see it more as an objective view of the global geopolitical landscape relating to us and Britain, rather than "fawning".

    Objective if you're Ruth Dudley Edwards or Kevin Myers maybe.

    Even Mrs Windsor of the British blue bloods acknowledges that:
    "with the benefit of historical hindsight we can all see things which we wish had been done differently, or not at all."

    "To all those who have suffered as a consequence of our troubled past I extend my sincere thoughts and deep sympathy."


  • #27
    [Deleted User]
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    riffmongous wrote: »
    But the Irish government didnt have much to do with those bombs, big difference

    Our Taoiseach for much of the 80's had himself been embroiled in an IRA gun smuggling scandal a few years earlier. To say there wasn't distrust of the government also would be wrong, in my opinion.


  • #28
    keith16
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭keith16


    Frank Lee Midere wrote: »
    What now? What does that even mean? They sell software services - here and there.

    They sell hardware too.


  • #29
    For Forks Sake
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,254 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Why do people in Wales still speak welsh ?

    So the sassanach can't overhear their plans for a sheep-led revolution.


    Ssssssh.


  • #30
    Karl Stein
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,687 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    Rojomcdojo wrote: »
    Our Taoiseach for much of the 80's had himself been embroiled in an IRA gun smuggling scandal a few years earlier. To say there wasn't distrust of the government also would be wrong, in my opinion.

    Anyone who supplied arms to Nationalists in the north at the time should be revered for their efforts to prevent ethnic cleansing.


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  • #31
    Frank Lee Midere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,780 ✭✭✭Frank Lee Midere


    keith16 wrote: »
    They sell hardware too.

    You said they didn't sell what they did here, here. They do software services here.


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