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Balaclava1991 · 24-10-2013 12:45PM

El Weirdo wrote: »

Wow.

The same happened in American when George Zimmerman defended himself by shooting a dead a black thug who was trying to beat his head off the concrete.
Who came out of the wood work?
Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson and the whole race baiting professional class to try and lynch a man who was defending himself.
The ultra left in Ireland are trying exactly the same tactic here.
Vilify the Gardaí for doing their jobs and making sure a kid was safe.
The ultra-left were up to the same nonsense in Northern Ireland when they were banging on about the human rights of terrorists.
Nowadays they have changed their tack and become supposed champions of the downtrodden against a supposedly racist state.
Internationally the Irish ultra-left is anti-American, anti-Israel and opposed to the War on Terror while domestically they seek to try and subvert the institutions of the state and scream about supposed Garda brutality at Rossport, in the policing of political demonstrations and try to portray them as a racist police force.
They tried the same trick with a Nigerian woman who claimed she was refugee and they backed her up to the hilt in the courts before she was finally put in a sling and sent back to where she came from.
This is their new angle.
Typical political opportunism and cynical race baiting of the worst kind.

Tony EH · 24-10-2013 12:45PM

drumswan wrote: »

You dont think the family are going to litigate? lol

Where did I say that?

Fu*kin hell...some people really do have a problem with reading.

Here's a pro tip...instead of just firing off your next inspid post, trying actually reading what has been written first.

deandean · 24-10-2013 12:46PM

Surely the the motivation behind reporting those children comes from the Madeline McCann case. Poor kid.

What parent wouldn't make the call to Gardai if they thought they could help?

I would.

Balaclava1991 · 24-10-2013 12:47PM

humanji wrote: »

And that's why it's racist!!! How can you not understand that? It's racial profiling. It's saying "well a member of that racial group did something, therefore we must assume other members of that same racial group have also done the same thing". It's based solely on them being Roma. Nothing else.

This is beyond a joke now.

Don't insult my intelligence.

old hippy · 24-10-2013 12:47PM

Tony EH wrote: »

The above sentence is indicative of an old maidish attitude.

I have seen no proof of any "insitutionalised racism".

You're also not even remotely qualified to post anything about me or what I may have, or have not "suffered".

There's none so blind as those who will not see, right, Tone?

Twice now you've called me an old maid because I have an issue with racism. I call it when I see it and if you don't like it, fine, put me on ignore.

I find those who dismiss racism have usually never been impacted by it and will tend to pretend it doesn't exist or resort to name calling when they've been rumbled.

drumswan · 24-10-2013 12:48PM

Tony EH wrote: »

Where did I say that?

Fu*kin hell...some people really do have a problem with reading.

Here's a pro tip...instead of just firing off your next inspid post, trying actually reading what has been written first.

Nice one, in the meantime you can go and read the meaning of the word 'reasonable' in the dictionary, then read back over the thread. Good lad.

drquirky · 24-10-2013 12:48PM

Balaclava1991 wrote: »

A blonde kid living with gypsies in Greece is proven to have been snatched.

Except this hasn't been proven... All they really know is the kid's DNA doesn't match the parents....there could be a bunch of different explanations that don't involve the child snatching you seem to fear.

But don't let that stop you from grabbing your pitchfork, pulling on a white hood and joining the mob.

Frank Lee Midere · 24-10-2013 12:49PM

humanji wrote: »

And that's why it's racist!!! How can you not understand that? It's racial profiling. It's saying "well a member of that racial group did something, therefore we must assume other members of that same racial group have also done the same thing". It's based solely on them being Roma. Nothing else.

No it was based on the kid looking different. The Greek police were racist by your definition and are still racist despite being correct. Your "morality" doesn't really extend that far. It's anti racist but anti kid.

Also it's not unfair or racist to assume a group which strays outside the law in Greece might do do here.

The fact is if the Gardai were right you people would still have to denounce them as racists because the same prior probabilities applied.

humanji · 24-10-2013 12:49PM

Balaclava1991 wrote: »

This is beyond a joke now.

Don't insult my intelligence.

You don't think treating someone badly because of their racial group is racist?

AnonoBoy · 24-10-2013 12:49PM

deandean wrote: »

Surely the the motivation behind reporting those children comes from the Madeline McCann case. Poor kid.

What parent wouldn't make the call to Gardai if they thought they could help?

I would.

It's not the call that's the real problem. It's the fact that despite the parents producing a passport for the kid and providing them with details of her place of birth the cops took the kid away.

old hippy · 24-10-2013 12:50PM

Balaclava1991 wrote: »

The same happened in American when George Zimmerman defended himself by shooting a dead a black thug who was trying to beat his head off the concrete.
Who came out of the wood work?
Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson and the whole race baiting professional class to try and lynch a man who was defending himself.
The ultra left in Ireland are trying exactly the same tactic here.
Vilify the Gardaí for doing their jobs and making sure a kid was safe.
The ultra-left were up to the same nonsense in Northern Ireland when they were banging on about the human rights of terrorists.
Nowadays they have changed their tack and become supposed champions of the downtrodden against a supposedly racist state.
Internationally the Irish ultra-left is anti-American, anti-Israel and opposed to the War on Terror while domestically they seek to try and subvert the institutions of the state and scream about supposed Garda brutality at Rossport, in the policing of political demonstrations and try to portray them as a racist police force.
They tried the same trick with a Nigerian woman who claimed she was refugee and they backed her up to the hilt in the courts before she was finally put in a sling and sent back to where she came from.
This is their new angle.
Typical political opportunism and cynical race baiting of the worst kind.

Absolute far right conspiracy nonsense. You'd be dangerous if your views weren't so laughable.

Sir Humphrey Appleby · 24-10-2013 12:50PM

Balaclava1991 wrote: »

The same happened in American when George Zimmerman defended himself by shooting a dead a black thug who was trying to beat his head off the concrete.
Who came out of the wood work?
Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson and the whole race baiting professional class to try and lynch a man who was defending himself.
The ultra left in Ireland are trying exactly the same tactic here.
Vilify the Gardaí for doing their jobs and making sure a kid was safe.
The ultra-left were up to the same nonsense in Northern Ireland when they were banging on about the human rights of terrorists.
Nowadays they have changed their tack and become supposed champions of the downtrodden against a supposedly racist state.
Internationally the Irish ultra-left is anti-American, anti-Israel and opposed to the War on Terror while domestically they seek to try and subvert the institutions of the state and scream about supposed Garda brutality at Rossport, in the policing of political demonstrations and try to portray them as a racist police force.
They tried the same trick with a Nigerian woman who claimed she was refugee and they backed her up to the hilt in the courts before she was finally put in a sling and sent back to where she came from.
This is their new angle.
Typical political opportunism and cynical race baiting of the worst kind.

You are kidding yeah, I mean that whole post has to be a joke.
Cant stop lolling at "ultra Left"

Frank Lee Midere · 24-10-2013 12:50PM

Balaclava1991 wrote: »

Except this hasn't been proven... All they really know is the kid's DNA doesn't match the parents....there could be a bunch of different explanations that don't involve the child snatching you seem to fear.

But don't let that stop you from grabbing your pitchfork, pulling on a white hood and joining the mob.

What explanation would you suggest? Virgin births?

My name is URL · 24-10-2013 12:51PM

Balaclava1991 wrote: »

This is beyond a joke now.

Don't insult my intelligence.

Your what now?

old hippy · 24-10-2013 12:52PM

Balaclava1991 wrote: »

This is beyond a joke now.

Don't insult my intelligence.

I see little evidence of intelligence, I see hate filled rants half baked conspiracy theories and disgusting apologism for racism .

dub_skav · 24-10-2013 12:53PM

Frank Lee Midere wrote: »

No it was based on the kid looking different. The Greek police were racist by your definition and are still racist despite being correct. Your "morality" doesn't really extend that far. It's anti racist but anti kid.

Also it's not unfair or racist to assume a group which strays outside the law in Greece might do do here.

The fact is if the Gardai were right you people would still have to denounce them as racists because the same prior probabilities applied.

You know that you can be racist and correct.

Some black people are good dancers, some jewish people are tight with money. Just because you use a racist motivation and end up being correct, doesn't mean that you weren't racist in the first place.

FTA69 · 24-10-2013 12:53PM

Do people realise the vast majority of child-snatching cases don't involve Roma whatsoever? If a child was snatched in France tomorrow would the cops be justified in taking in any odd-looking child in the hands of French tourists?

Balaclava1991 · 24-10-2013 12:54PM

humanji wrote: »

You don't think treating someone badly because of their racial group is racist?

The Gardaí had reason to believe they abducted a child based on the Greek case.
You keep deliberately ignoring that.
I wonder why?
You are clearly anti-Garda.
It's not fooling me and it's not fooling anyone else.
Won't stop a claim for damages going all the way through the courts - with the taxpayers paying through the nose at the end of it.
The PC Brigade and their bleeding heart followers are really playing the violins now.

It's so predictable and so laughable.

drumswan · 24-10-2013 12:54PM

Frank Lee Midere wrote: »

No it was based on the kid looking different. The Greek police were racist by your definition and are still racist despite being correct. Your "morality" doesn't really extend that far. It's anti racist but anti kid.

Also it's not unfair or racist to assume a group which strays outside the law in Greece might do do here.

The fact is if the Gardai were right you people would still have to denounce them as racists because the same prior probabilities applied.

You appear to be suggesting that because a person of a particular race committed a crime at the other side of the continent that it follows that it is reasonable to suspect every other member of that race here of similar crimes. Is that correct? Surely you cant be saying that?

Balaclava1991 · 24-10-2013 12:56PM

old hippy wrote: »

I see little evidence of intelligence, I see hate filled rants half baked conspiracy theories and disgusting apologism for racism .

If in doubt the racist accusation always come handy doesn't it?

So predictable.

humanji · 24-10-2013 12:56PM

Frank Lee Midere wrote: »

No it was based on the kid looking different. The Greek police were racist by your definition and are still racist despite being correct. Your "morality" doesn't really extend that far. It's anti racist but anti kid.

I don't' know the full details of the Greek case, but if they acted only because of the racial group, as the HSE did, the yes they were being racist.

Just because they were been right, doesn't change anything. In fact,it's what caused the racially motivated actions of the HSE and Gardaí here.

Also it's not unfair or racist to assume a group which strays outside the law in Greece might do do here.

Yes, actually it's pretty much the definition of racism.

The fact is if the Gardai were right you people would still have to denounce them as racists because the same prior probabilities applied.

If their actions are racially motivated, then they are racist. You don't have to be burning crosses or sending people to death camps to be racist.

Tony EH · 24-10-2013 12:56PM

old hippy wrote: »

There's none so blind as those who will not see, right, Tone?

Twice now you've called me an old maid because I have an issue with racism. I call it when I see it and if you don't like it, fine, put me on ignore.

I find those who dismiss racism have usually never been impacted by it and will tend to pretend it doesn't exist or resort to name calling when they've been rumbled.

...and some people look for racism everywhere.

I see no evidence of any racism in this case and unless some actual hard facts come to light regarding such matters, that is where I stand.

And I am not joking about you having an old maidish attitude, because you, quite rightly, have an issue with racism, but because of the hysterical tone of your original post regarding the supposed "institutionalised racism" in this case.

If I hurt your feelings with the "old maid" joke then I apologise Old Hippy.

thetwangman · 24-10-2013 12:56PM

Balaclava1991 wrote: »

A blonde kid living with gypsies in Ireland or indeed anywhere else in Europe would also come under suspicion.

No it wouldn't. That's blatant racism right there.

This case was sparked by an ignorant assumption based on racial prejudice.

drumswan · 24-10-2013 12:56PM

Balaclava1991 wrote: »

If in doubt the racist accusation always come handy doesn't it?

So predictable.

You'd be better off on stormfront, it would do your blood pressure levels a world of good. You are a racist btw. You should learn to hide it better like the other lads in the thread here.

old hippy · 24-10-2013 12:57PM

Balaclava1991 wrote: »

The Gardaí had reason to believe they abducted a child based on the Greek case.
You keep deliberately ignoring that.
I wonder why?
You are clearly anti-Garda.
It's not fooling me and it's not fooling anyone else.
Won't stop a claim for damages going all the way through the courts - with the taxpayers paying through the nose at the end of it.
The PC Brigade and their bleeding heart followers are really playing the violins now.

It's so predictable and so laughable.

I bet I can predict your trajectory on boards over the next few hours.

You're pretty angry about something but you can't quite articulate it, instead your barely surpressed rage seems to be directed at those who champion civil rights and liberties.

Smiles35 · 24-10-2013 12:57PM

drumswan wrote: »

You appear to be suggesting that because a person of a particular race committed a crime at the other side of the continent that it follows that it is reasonable to suspect every other member of that race here of similar crimes. Is that correct? Surely you cant be saying that?

We didnt know what to think. Some were very suspicious of the Roma. The Guards investigated it for us.

K-9 · 24-10-2013 12:57PM

Sir Humphrey Appleby wrote: »

You are kidding yeah, I mean that whole post has to be a joke.
Cant stop lolling at "ultra Left"

Has to be a parody, or else he doesn't realise how ultra right his conspiracy theories make him out to be.

old hippy · 24-10-2013 12:59PM

Tony EH wrote: »

...and some people look for racism everywhere.

I see no evidence of any racism in this case and unless some actual hard facts come to light regarding such matters, that is where I stand.

And I am not joking about you having an old maidish attitude, because you, quite rightly, have an issue with racism, but because of the hysterical tone of your original post regarding the supposed "institutionalised racism" in this case.

If I hurt your feelings with the "old maid" joke then I apologise Old Hippy.

I see this as yet another case of racism being embedded in parts of the Irish state and culture - you don't. Clearly.

Anyways, we've established that racism doesn't bother you, it's never affected you in any way and you prefer to dismiss the idea of it happening in this case. Fair enough.

Balaclava1991 · 24-10-2013 01:01PM

Sir Humphrey Appleby wrote: »

You are kidding yeah, I mean that whole post has to be a joke.
Cant stop lolling at "ultra Left"

Amnesty International was founded by Sean McBride - an ex-leader of the IRA who often defended IRA terrorists who murdered Gardaí in court.
The Labour Party is led by ex-Stickies - former members of the Official IRA.
Sinn Féin/IRA are heavily involved in left wing activism and agitation and create an alphabet soup of front organisations that are bank rolled by smuggling rackets.
Journalism, the legal profession and the human rights industry is also stacked with ultra-leftists.
That's a fact.
The human rights industry is the creation of subversives who are hostile to the state.
That is their agenda.
Twisting the truth and facts for political power.

AnonoBoy · 24-10-2013 01:01PM

Balaclava1991 wrote: »

It's so predictable and so laughable.

Your responses are pretty predictable and laughable too so they are.

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