Child removed from Roma gypsies-This time in DUBLIN Mod Warning Post #1

cerastes · 23-10-2013 02:03AM

mango salsa wrote: »

You see thats the thing - people make false assumptions about Roma because they avoid them and never talk to them. It's not surprising that a lot of Irish people don't know Roma who work because a) Irish people avoid them and b) Roma who do work would hide their ethnic identity because of fears of racial abuse.

If I see anyone begging, I'll avoid it or decline, if I had money to gift to charity, I prefer to choose where it goes, maybe the Capuchin Monks, seem to do a good service,
Begging or stealing out of clothes drop offs are the only things Ive seen Roma doing, its unfortunate but true. Im not saying they aren't in a bad situation (or that all Roma do it).

I think any person getting overt or covert racial abuse in this country within a job can easily have it shut down or dealt with, its practically a win win.
But all kinds of people suffer all kinds of abuse from fellow employees and superiors in jobs and it can be much more difficult to deal with than something as clear cut as racial abuse.

Donaldio · 23-10-2013 02:05AM

mango salsa wrote: »

You see thats the thing - people make false assumptions about Roma because they avoid them and never talk to them. It's not surprising that a lot of Irish people don't know Roma who work because a) Irish people avoid them and b) Roma who do work would hide their ethnic identity because of fears of racial abuse.

Any Roma i ever meet was a) Smileing as they were trying to pimp out there quite young neice or daughter to me

Trying to mug and rob me C) Begging even to the point of actually following me constantely asking again and again D) Forceing women and children to beg by sitting on the street all day includeing young wemon holding pictures of young babies

That is not a false assumption it's real !

Annasopra · 23-10-2013 02:07AM

Donaldio wrote: »

Any Roma i ever meet was a) Smileing as they were trying to pimp out there quite young neice to me Trying to mug and rob me C) Begging even to the point of actually following me constantely asking again and again D) Forceing women and children to beg by sitting on the street all day includeing young wemon holding pictures of young babies

That is not a false assumption !

So they all did a and b and c and d?

Donaldio · 23-10-2013 02:55AM

I havent met every roma the ones who i have i dont appreciate there behaviour towards me or anyone else why should they have the right to ask for someones money for nothing ? You be there buddy you sleep in the park sit on the high street with a coffe cup all day play your music ! I prefer not to ok ! I have my own business believe or not !

Sigourney · 23-10-2013 03:01AM

patsyrockem wrote: »

You won't see a r--a, t-in=er, din--le ma, p-r-r-r-t protest outside leinster house.

Once more, in English, please.

tiger55 · 23-10-2013 04:53AM

Anyone wrote: »

This is a long shot, but perhaps the Roma Gypsies are lying?

Racist.

You will be saying they are always stealing next.:mad:

denhaagenite · 23-10-2013 06:25AM

mango salsa wrote: »

What does anyone contribute? Firstly not all Roma are beggars so obviously a lot of them contribute to the workforce and to taxation in this country. Secondly a lot of them do actually want to integrate and they contribute to local communities through initiatives such as that linked to earlier on in Blackpool in Cork and indeed they contribute to Irish society by putting on display their musical heritage through concerts.

What the fcuk are you talking about?? Blackpool is destroyed by the Roma, as a woman you can't walk there feeling safe, I used to work in an office on the Commons Road and those leery fcukers were everywhere.

You can be damn sure that any "initiatives" in Blackpool were organised by bleeding hearts and not by the Roma themselves.

Apologies for the swearing but these people and those who are hell bent on making excuses for them just make my blood boil. They are exploiting and abusing their own and now it transpires other peoples children, and don't get me started on how are justice system deals with them as regards begging, robbing, scams, trafficking and impregnating of their child brides. Completely and utterly disgraceful. Last I heard statutory rape, or just rape, was illegal in Ireland.

I say they send their children to school or get jailed or deported, and treat the adults as the organised criminal gang they are with proper sentences. Buying and selling children like they're animals. Unbelievable.

Did find it interesting how the Romanian filmmaker who narrated that BBC documentary referred to them as Romanian gypsies and talked about how a lot of them were building houses in Romania though.... Thought we weren't allowed to call them Romanian?

AngryHippie · 23-10-2013 06:30AM

Charlie Rock wrote: »

I said to my Dad the other day:

Dad, I have a question. How come I don't look or speak like you or Ma?

He says:

停止问问题，然后回去工作。

http://www.mdbg.net/chindict/chindict.php

Brilliant

Corruptedmorals · 23-10-2013 07:10AM

denhaagenite wrote: »

Did find it interesting how the Romanian filmmaker who narrated that BBC documentary referred to them as Romanian gypsies and talked about how a lot of them were building houses in Romania though.... Thought we weren't allowed to call them Romanian?

Allowed? They are distinct from people from Romania, so yes you should distinguish the two. Roma are from Eastern Europe in general. It would be like saying somebody is Irish, therefore they are a traveller.

Flippyfloppy · 23-10-2013 07:10AM

mango salsa wrote: »

You see thats the thing - people make false assumptions about Roma because they avoid them and never talk to them. It's not surprising that a lot of Irish people don't know Roma who work because a) Irish people avoid them and b) Roma who do work would hide their ethnic identity because of fears of racial abuse.

I know one thing, if any Roma more families in Ireland have blonde kids, it's the one place they'll get ratted on. What with the attitudes toward them here!

BurnsCarpenter · 23-10-2013 07:14AM

denhaagenite wrote: »

Did find it interesting how the Romanian filmmaker who narrated that BBC documentary referred to them as Romanian gypsies and talked about how a lot of them were building houses in Romania though.... Thought we weren't allowed to call them Romanian?

Well 'Romanian' obviously makes no sense as a description. That's not being PC, its just being accurate.

petrolcan · 23-10-2013 07:20AM

keeponhurling wrote: »

Racist alert!!

That was post #5!

baldbear · 23-10-2013 08:07AM

Shock shock the Roma mother did have a child on the day she said this girl was born. The racism shown is quite worrying.

Eight Ball · 23-10-2013 08:24AM

baldbear wrote: »

Shock shock the Roma mother did have a child on the day she said this girl was born. The tacism shown is quite worrying.

As worrying as your spelling?

Annasopra · 23-10-2013 08:29AM

Donaldio wrote: »

That is not a false assumption it's real !

It is a false assumption that all Roma don't work.

yizorselves · 23-10-2013 08:33AM

WHOOPS!

Tony EH · 23-10-2013 08:49AM

Donaldio wrote: »

Why is it with the Roma the always put the kids and especially always the women on the street to beg. What are the men doing ?

Counting the money when they bring it back.

Penn · 23-10-2013 08:51AM

Several posters infracted or banned for making huge sweeping generalisations.

Knock it off. Full bans may be handed out from this point forward.

everlast75 · 23-10-2013 08:52AM

Today is like a nationwide episode of Maury!

petrolcan · 23-10-2013 08:53AM

shamrock55 wrote: »

They shouldnt even be in the country in the first place

Why not?

Victor · 23-10-2013 08:55AM

oceanman wrote: »

I think your faith in the HSE is very misplaced...given everything that happened to children placed in their care in the past.

Realise that those children were on a downward spiral before they reached HSE care - dysfunctional families, abuse, crime, substance abuse and so on. The HSE doesn't normally get involved with healthy, well-adjusted children from well-adjusted families.

poolboy wrote: »

Quote:
The couple claimed the girl's biological mother willingly gave her to them as a baby because she could not look after her...

...DNA tests have shown that the girl was not born to the Roma couple.

Perfectly plausible because if you couldn't care for your own child, the life of a Roma gypsy is the life you'd choose for them.

But if the biological parents were also members of the Roma community?

Someone previously mentioned that unofficial adoptions are common amongst Roma.

petrolcan · 23-10-2013 08:58AM

shamrock55 wrote: »

What thell hell does this country gain by letting in roma gypsies,ill tell you nothing unless you think by them claiming every benefit known to man,begging,robbing, and pickpocketing somehow benefits this country of ours,

You appear to be a pleasant individual.

Do you read the Daily Mail perhaps?

Absoluvely · 23-10-2013 09:00AM

Victor wrote: »

Someone previously mentioned that unofficial adoptions are common amongst Roma.

"Unofficial adoptions" sounds like a big dirty euphemism.

conorhal · 23-10-2013 09:02AM

Absoluvely wrote: »

"Unofficial adoptions" sounds like a big dirty euphemism.

It is, for the sale of children like comodities for the purpose of begging and indentured servitude, a very common problem within the Roma community.

conorhal · 23-10-2013 09:10AM

mango salsa wrote: »

It is a false assumption that all Roma don't work.

Irish Travellers have an 80% unemployment rate, and that's in a country in which the share the same language, ethnicity and access to education as the rest of the population, none of which megre advantages the Roma posess, so what rate of employment do you imagine the achieve? My guess would be substatially higher then the Irish Travellers.

zl1whqvjs75cdy · 23-10-2013 09:11AM

So if the child does turn out to be Roma as now seems to be the thinking in the media will we have a climb down from high horses from the people saying that all Roma steal children? Or can we turn the thread a full 180 degrees and start decrying the ineptitude of the HSE to make ourselves feel better?

I would be extremely interested to see what kind of conditions the girl was living in since you to treat children very very badly for the HSE to take any notice. If this girl wasn't being abused in any way and she was raken by the HSE based on her " parents " what does that say about us?

*I realise there is a lot of ifs there and I am happy to eat my words if the girl is not Roma, I have no particular love for them but I think the **** storm is getting out of hand when we don't even have any facts yet. *

Kenny Logins · 23-10-2013 09:14AM

donkeyoaty0099 wrote: »

So if the child does turn out to be Roma as now seems to be the thinking in the media will we have a climb down from high horses from the people saying that all Roma steal children? Or can we turn the thread a full 180 degrees and start decrying the ineptitude of the HSE to make ourselves feel better?

I would be extremely interested to see what kind of conditions the girl was living in since you to treat children very very badly for the HSE to take any notice. If this girl wasn't being abused in any way and she was raken by the HSE based on her " parents " what does that say about us?

*I realise there is a lot of ifs there and I am happy to eat my words if the girl is not Roma, I have no particular love for them but I think the **** storm is getting out of hand when we don't even have any facts yet. *

The Star has reported (front page this morning) that it was a mistake, and they are her natural parents.

I should have taken a photo... this is the UK front pages from last night -

http://www.thepaperboy.com/uk/front-pages.cfm

AckwelFoley · 23-10-2013 09:20AM

Kenny Logins wrote: »

The Star has reported (front page this morning) that it was a mistake, and they are her natural parents.

Id rather admit to dressing up in a gimp suit while watching gay porn than reading the Star.

Kenny Logins · 23-10-2013 09:23AM

AckwelFoley wrote: »

Id rather admit to dressing up in a gimp suit while watching gay porn than reading the Star.

I'm not sure if this is the right thread for your confession.

Kenny Logins · 23-10-2013 09:24AM

"Abducted by killer spiders" tomorrow.

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Child removed from Roma gypsies-This time in DUBLIN Mod Warning Post #1