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Is sex passionate and meaningful anymore?

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  • #92
    Maximus Alexander
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    I've never understood how consensual sex between adults could ever be considered immoral.

    Is it just because it's enjoyable and nobody should enjoy anything without guilt?


  • #93
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    pundy wrote: »
    so did i - with someone i know

    That's nice.

    If you go around riding people you pull at the pub on a regular basis are you a slut and must you have low morals to not even question it?


  • #94
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Maximus Alexander wrote: »
    I've never understood how consensual sex between adults could ever be considered immoral.

    Is it just because it's enjoyable and nobody should enjoy anything without guilt?


    Depends....according to catholic 'sexual ethics' any act which is not "pro-creative" is a sin, thus sex for pleasure is 'wrong'. This has been banged into the psyche of much of the world for hundreds of years, and still remains, despite the loss of influence of the source.


  • #95
    pundy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 673 ✭✭✭pundy


    Nodin wrote: »
    That's nice.

    If you go around riding people you pull at the pub on a regular basis are you a slut and must you have low morals to not even question it?


    yeah pretty much. you're still riding a stranger. why not get the number, meet up, have a couple of dates and then do the business when you are confident enough to know that there wont be any problems down the line?

    what's with this instant gratification that people seem to crave these days?

    all good things come to those who wait - and if you follow that logic, there wont be any good in riding some slag from a club.

    i know a tart (friend of a friend) who met a chap in a club recently, and the other friend went off with the mate of the chap. they all went home for a bit of hoo-ha, and she changed her mind, and he was expecting the ride and she goes "ah sure ye can **** off there" and she allowed him to cum on her leg "for his troubles"...

    clearly neither of them would have been feeling too good about that the next day? what good came of it (pardon the pun)??

    sure yer man would've been better off going home and sticking on a porno like...


  • #96
    Aubrielle Wooden Conductor
    Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Aubrielle Wooden Conductor


    Maybe you should stop obsessing about your friends' sex lives and get your own


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  • #97
    Bolikov
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 ✭Bolikov


    pundy wrote: »
    yeah pretty much. you're still riding a stranger. why not get the number, meet up, have a couple of dates and then do the business when you are confident enough to know that there wont be any problems down the line?

    what's with this instant gratification that people seem to crave these days?

    all good things come to those who wait - and if you follow that logic, there wont be any good in riding some slag from a club.

    i know a tart (friend of a friend) who met a chap in a club recently, and the other friend went off with the mate of the chap. they all went home for a bit of hoo-ha, and she changed her mind, and he was expecting the ride and she goes "ah sure ye can **** off there" and she allowed him to cum on her leg "for his troubles"...

    clearly neither of them would have been feeling too good about that the next day? what good came of it (pardon the pun)??

    sure yer man would've been better off going home and sticking on a porno like...

    :rolleyes:


  • #98
    pundy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 673 ✭✭✭pundy


    bluewolf wrote: »
    Maybe you should stop obsessing about your friends' sex lives and get your own

    have my own, i'm not obsessed with anyone elses at all - someone put up a thread about the topic on this very public forum.

    in a nutshell - i wouldnt trust anyone you could meet online - sure they've probably a few back-ups in waiting.

    its for ugly people who want to make themselves feel more loved and attractive.


  • #99
    Ash.J.Williams
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,114 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    pundy wrote: »
    so did i - with someone i know
    hi


  • #100
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    pundy wrote: »
    yeah pretty much. you're still riding a stranger. why not get the number, meet up, have a couple of dates and then do the business when you are confident enough to know that there wont be any problems down the line?

    what's with this instant gratification that people seem to crave these days?

    all good things come to those who wait - and if you follow that logic, there wont be any good in riding some slag from a club.
    .....................

    Sad, bitter and judgemental.


    There's two kinds of ugly by the way. One is the exterior.


  • #101
    Zubeneschamali
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,686 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    pundy wrote: »
    i wouldnt trust anyone you could meet online.

    Again, what has "online" got to do with anything? People were having casual sex before the Internet was thought of.


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  • #102
    Ash.J.Williams
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,114 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    pundy wrote: »
    yeah pretty much. you're still riding a stranger. why not get the number, meet up, have a couple of dates and then do the business when you are confident enough to know that there wont be any problems down the line?

    what's with this instant gratification that people seem to crave these days?

    all good things come to those who wait - and if you follow that logic, there wont be any good in riding some slag from a club.

    i know a tart (friend of a friend) who met a chap in a club recently, and the other friend went off with the mate of the chap. they all went home for a bit of hoo-ha, and she changed her mind, and he was expecting the ride and she goes "ah sure ye can **** off there" and she allowed him to cum on her leg "for his troubles"...

    clearly neither of them would have been feeling too good about that the next day? what good came of it (pardon the pun)??

    sure yer man would've been better off going home and sticking on a porno like...
    a hoo ha is a when war breaks out in a country forcing people to leave en masse.


  • #103
    pundy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 673 ✭✭✭pundy


    Nodin wrote: »
    Sad, bitter and judgemental.


    There's two kinds of ugly by the way. One is the exterior.


    yes, and anyone who is low enough to be riding around is BOTH. quite like yourself i'd imagine.


  • #104
    pundy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 673 ✭✭✭pundy


    Zubeneschamali wrote: »
    Again, what has "online" got to do with anything? People were having casual sex before the Internet was thought of.

    stop nitpicking - you know what i mean, and you're clearly within that category and trying to defend it to yourself.


  • #105
    Tasden
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,166 ✭✭✭Tasden


    pundy wrote: »
    yeah pretty much. you're still riding a stranger. why not get the number, meet up, have a couple of dates and then do the business when you are confident enough to know that there wont be any problems down the line? ..

    You do realise that after a few dates you know no more about the person than they want you to know/choose to disclose.
    Ive been with a guy for a few months and I couldn't really tell you alot about him. I've also been in a long term relationship with someone I thought I knew only for him to turn out to be a horrible person after a few years together. People can be very good liars no matter how you met them.


  • #106
    Ihatecuddles-old
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,785 ✭✭✭Ihatecuddles-old


    pundy wrote: »

    its for ugly people who want to make themselves feel more loved and attractive.

    Im not ugly and I'd say half the people I've had sex with Ive met online.


  • #107
    pundy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 673 ✭✭✭pundy


    Tasden wrote: »
    You do realise that after a few dates you know no more about the person than they want you to know/choose to disclose.
    Ive been with a guy for a few months and I couldn't really tell you alot about him. I've also been in a long term relationship with someone I thought I knew only for him to turn out to be a horrible person after a few years together. People can be very good liars no matter how you met them.

    was he meeting people online and riding them behind your back by any chance?


  • #108
    pundy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 673 ✭✭✭pundy


    Ihatecuddles wrote: »
    Im not ugly and I'd say half the people I've had sex with Ive met online.


    the whole act of it is creepy/ugly.... it's gross

    it doesnt make you an "empowered woman" to ride around


  • #109
    Ihatecuddles-old
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,785 ✭✭✭Ihatecuddles-old


    pundy wrote: »
    the whole act of it is creepy/ugly.... it's gross

    it doesnt make you an "empowered woman" to ride around

    Nope, its exciting and no worse than any other way of meeting someone. How is it gross?


  • #110
    It wasn't me!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    I wouldn't be absolutely mad about casual sex, to the extent that I'd normally go looking for it, and sex within relationships is significantly better, for lots of reasons, but having a one night stand is not a bad thing. Having lots of one night stands, if that's what makes you happy, is not a bad thing, any more than monogamous sex within a relationship to keep everyone relaxed and happy is a bad thing. To attribute a level of morality to consensual adult sexual behaviour is absurdly artificial. It's what we do. It's why we got the bits we got and if everyone just got over the judgemental preconceptions we'd have a better life all round. If someone wants to sleep with me and other people, and I'm okay with that arrangement, it's fine. If they want to sleep with me only, that's fine too. Once people are honest and responsible sex is just a way to improve your life. Nothing wrong with something casual, or something serious. Sex isn't magic. It's not some lifechanging binding covenant or anything. It can be part of one, sure, but it doesn't have any innate magical qualities or moral attributes.


  • #111
    Tasden
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,166 ✭✭✭Tasden


    pundy wrote: »
    was he meeting people online and riding them behind your back by any chance?

    Afaik he wasnt, but thats exactly my point- you never do know someone else completely.


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  • #112
    pundy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 673 ✭✭✭pundy


    Ihatecuddles wrote: »
    Nope, its exciting and no worse than any other way of meeting someone. How is it gross?

    my opinion. im not battling with you or anyone else on here. that battle is, or will only be within you when you realise how it's not really right.

    whatever ideas people have about it, those are mine, and i have a right to express them.

    maybe some of it might be from personal experience and some of it from hearing about stories from friends who do it, but it's not for me, and thats ok. i'm in a LTR anyway, so i think the last thing i'd want is to ride some random when i'm getting it better in my situation.

    so i'll leave it at that - everyone to their own, but that doesnt make it right either.

    good day


  • #113
    Ash.J.Williams
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,114 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    pundy wrote: »
    my opinion. im not battling with you or anyone else on here. that battle is, or will only be within you when you realise how it's not really right.

    whatever ideas people have about it, those are mine, and i have a right to express them.

    maybe some of it might be from personal experience and some of it from hearing about stories from friends who do it, but it's not for me, and thats ok. i'm in a LTR anyway, so i think the last thing i'd want is to ride some random when i'm getting it better in my situation.

    so i'll leave it at that - everyone to their own, but that doesnt make it right either.

    good day
    man...you're either a vile or hilarious human being!


  • #114
    Ihatecuddles-old
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,785 ✭✭✭Ihatecuddles-old


    pundy wrote: »
    my opinion. im not battling with you or anyone else on here. that battle is, or will only be within you when you realise how it's not really right.

    whatever ideas people have about it, those are mine, and i have a right to express them.

    maybe some of it might be from personal experience and some of it from hearing about stories from friends who do it, but it's not for me, and thats ok. i'm in a LTR anyway, so i think the last thing i'd want is to ride some random when i'm getting it better in my situation.

    so i'll leave it at that - everyone to their own, but that doesnt make it right either.

    good day

    Are you for real?? At no point was I 'battling' you. Merely trying to understand your mindset.


  • #115
    Ash.J.Williams
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,114 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Ihatecuddles wrote: »
    Are you for real?? At no point was I 'battling' you. Merely trying to understand your mindset.
    he's over in the cannabis thread too. which i find odd...as i've never met an extremist smoker before...


  • #116
    paulieeye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 903 ✭✭✭paulieeye


    pundy wrote: »
    my opinion. im not battling with you or anyone else on here. that battle is, or will only be within you when you realise how it's not really right.

    whatever ideas people have about it, those are mine, and i have a right to express them.

    maybe some of it might be from personal experience and some of it from hearing about stories from friends who do it, but it's not for me, and thats ok. i'm in a LTR anyway, so i think the last thing i'd want is to ride some random when i'm getting it better in my situation.

    so i'll leave it at that - everyone to their own, but that doesnt make it right either.

    good day

    pundy, i'm not sure whether to educate you or ignore you but let me just say this. The place you initially meet someone has no effect on what type of person they are. People meet in pubs, people meet in the supermarket, people meet online.

    If you meet online, you know more about them than if you met them on a night out. And then as normal you go on dates. They only difference is the initial contact.

    It may be the case that someone in your past or a friends past was doing the dirt with someone they met online but that doesnt mean its all seedy and gross. They could of just of easily met in a pub.


  • #117
    pharmaton
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭pharmaton


    everytime I see someone talk about LTR I always think of Lord of the Rings. my precious


  • #118
    Itwasntme.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,754 ✭✭✭Itwasntme.


    Tis the season to be jolly, trolalalala...lalalala.


  • #119
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    pundy wrote: »
    yes, and anyone who is low enough to be riding around is BOTH. quite like yourself i'd imagine.


    Like I said, that comes across as sad, bitter and judgemental. Presumably you'd have them all put into laundries.


  • #120
    Legs.Eleven
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,987 ✭✭✭Legs.Eleven


    pundy wrote: »
    so did i - with someone i know


    She wasn't always someone you knew though - she was a stranger to you once.


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  • #121
    Lollipops23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,420 ✭✭✭Lollipops23


    pundy wrote: »
    in a nutshell - i wouldnt trust anyone you could meet online - sure they've probably a few back-ups in waiting.

    its for ugly people who want to make themselves feel more loved and attractive.
    My last relationship was with a guy I met online-it didn't work out, but he's now an amazing friend to me. I have a much more frank and honest relationship with him than my previous boyfriend, who incidentally I met through friends who'd known him since he was 16.
    He turned out to be an emotionally abusive asshole btw.


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