Help me troll a scammer please.

Banjo String · 20-10-2013 11:37AM #1

OK so I'm currently selling a phone on done deal.

This morning I receive a text message with no number that I can reply to asking for details of the phone, lowest price I'll accept etc, with an email address to reply to as the guy is 'working'.

So I reply with the relevant info, asking him where in the country he is etc.

Turns out he's currently restricted to pay me in person as he's off shore at the minute with the navy, and in fairness to him offered me asking price along with €100 EXTRA to cover shipping costs, as it's for his son. :cool:

Where do I go from here guys:D?

seminarian · 20-10-2013 11:38AM

Do you actually have the money yet?

mackeire · 20-10-2013 11:38AM

Banjo String wrote: »

OK so I'm currently selling a phone on done deal.

This morning I receive a text message with no number to reply to asking for details of the phone, lowest price I'll accept etc, with an email address to reading to as the guy is 'working'.

So I reply with the relevant info, asking him where in the country he is etc.

Turns out he's currently restricted to pay me in person as he's off shore at the minute with the navy, and in fairness to him offered me asking price along with €100 EXTRA to cover shipping costs, as it's for his son. :cool:

Where do I go from here guys:D?

You give him your bank details

wazky · 20-10-2013 11:39AM

Send him a phone encased in concrete with the alarm set for every hour.

Banjo String · 20-10-2013 11:40AM

seminarian wrote: »

Do you actually have the money yet?

Last correspondence was where he offered to pay my shipping costs

. I'm ready to pay your asking price but not cash in person because I'm currently working as a navy officer are restricted at the moment and my only quickest payment option is PayPal, its safe fast and secure and i will be responsible for the PayPal transaction charges so you can get your expected amount plus the shipping cost which i will be adding 100 EUR. If you don't have an account with PayPal, its pretty easy to open one,Just log onto www.paypal.com and sign up. I hope we can make the purchase as fast as possible? As I am buying the item for my son as a gift and i will like it to shipped via ANPOST REGISTERED,I look forward to hear from you with the information below.

seminarian · 20-10-2013 11:40AM

mackeire wrote: »

You give him your bank details

.... NEVER EVER EVER give your bank details to ANYONE!!!!!

seminarian · 20-10-2013 11:41AM

Banjo String wrote: »

Last correspondence was where he offered to pay my shipping costs

Once you have the money (best by paypal) then ship the item registered post.

MJ23 · 20-10-2013 11:43AM

Ignore him, wait for someone else to buy it.

Banjo String · 20-10-2013 11:43AM

seminarian wrote: »

Once you have the money (best by paypal) then ship the item registered post.

Something tells me there will never be any money.

osarusan · 20-10-2013 11:44AM

As he seems to be proposing to pay you the money before you ship the item, he's not much of a scammer.

Fr_Dougal · 20-10-2013 11:45AM

seminarian wrote: »

Once you have the money (best by paypal) then ship the item registered post.

Oh there'll be money alright, well possibly for a day or so...then a chargeback for unauthorised use, same as a credit card.

SEPT 23 1989 · 20-10-2013 11:46AM

Send him a parcel of poo

stimpson · 20-10-2013 11:47AM

osarusan wrote: »

As he seems to be proposing to pay you the money before you ship the item, he's not much of a scammer.

Sure what could go wrong?

nlgbbbblth · 20-10-2013 11:47AM

seminarian wrote: »

.... NEVER EVER EVER give your bank details to ANYONE!!!!!

Oh sh*t. I used a cheque to pay for my son's school trip last week. That had my bank details on it. :rolleyes:

hefferboi · 20-10-2013 11:49AM

I dont understand what's going on here? Guy is paying full price so send him the phone after he pays? It's with PayPal too so you can't get scammed.

What's the problem like?

osarusan · 20-10-2013 11:49AM

stimpson wrote: »

Sure what could go wrong?

I am the offshore navy man.

seminarian · 20-10-2013 11:50AM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Oh there'll be money alright, well possibly for a day or so...then a chargeback for unauthorised use, same as a credit card.

Once you have the money from the Guy from Paypal you can ask Paypal to verify the payment by contacting the owner of the card.

Paypal are pretty good at preventing fraud.

marshbaboon · 20-10-2013 11:51AM

Sounds like a returns scam. He pays upfront. You send him the phone. He sends back a broken phone of the same type and gets a refund through paypal. You can't prove that the phone was working when you sent it so you can't dispute it.

Post him a dead cat in sealed packaging. Leave it out in the sun for a few days to get it nice and ripe.

Banjo String · 20-10-2013 11:51AM

hefferboi wrote: »

I dont understand what's going on here? Guy is paying full price so send him the phone after he pays? It's with PayPal too so you can't get scammed.

What's the problem like?

Put it this way.

In only looking 150 for the phone. It's a two and a half year old Samsung. He is proposing to pay 250 in total.

Seems to me plenty could go wrong.

Yllonnoc · 20-10-2013 11:53AM

Fr. Dougal is right....

I was selling a car recently and had a very similar experience. Guy told me he would send the money with extra for the shipping cost of the car. He wanted me to ship it to London. So I played along to see how far it would go, he actually sent me a cheque, then kept ringing me to see when I shipping the car. He got pretty aggressive on the phone.

I didn't go as far as to cash the cheque, but he was hoping I would ship the car, lodge the cheque and then it would probably bounce.

Stay clear, sell it to someone you can meet in person.

Artful_Badger · 20-10-2013 11:58AM

Banjo String wrote: »

Put it this way.

In only looking 150 for the phone. It's a two and a half year old Samsung. He is proposing to pay 250 in total.

Seems to me plenty could go wrong.

Probably trying to scam you but if you do things right he wont be able to. It just cant be that easy to return a brick and get a phone plus money. If it was paypal wouldnt be usable.

ahnowbrowncow · 20-10-2013 11:59AM

hefferboi wrote: »

I dont understand what's going on here? Guy is paying full price so send him the phone after he pays? It's with PayPal too so you can't get scammed.

What's the problem like?

Selling things through paypal can be just as dodgy as sending cash by post. Even registered items with an post don't need signatures so paypal won't accept a registered post receipt as proof of postage. So the scammer will get your item and then claim to paypal they never got it and get their money back too

Artful_Badger · 20-10-2013 12:02PM

ahnowbrowncow wrote: »

Selling things through paypal can be just as dodgy as sending cash by post. Even registered items with an post don't need signatures so paypal won't accept a registered post receipt as proof of postage. So the scammer will get your item and then claim to paypal they never got it and get their money back too

He's paying an extra 100 for shipping. If you keep that and send through an post you deserve to be scammed. Send by courier to the address and get a signature and paypal wont accept his word he didnt get it.

Stonky · 20-10-2013 12:04PM

seminarian wrote: »

.... NEVER EVER EVER give your bank details to ANYONE!!!!!

Ever write a cheque ? All your details are there plus your signature. Paranoid much?

evlgmaojr27ypu · 20-10-2013 12:07PM

If I were you I wouldn't send him the phone even though he is willing to pay for it through Paypal.. he can raise a claim in couple of weeks stating that he never received the parcel, and there is a possibility that he could win the case as well.. Do you know where he want you to send it ?

Long Turn · 20-10-2013 12:10PM

He will send you a sterling draft. Fake
Do not lodge it as it takes 2 to 3 weeks to bounce and you will get hefty bank charges.
Buyer normally would receive his phone within this time period and would get away with it.

Prodgey · 20-10-2013 12:10PM

You will receive an email from a fake email looking like an official PayPal email, saying you've received money. Then, without actually logging into confirm, you might post it, and by the time you actually check your real account you realise there was no money and the phone is already gone.

Dicky Pride · 20-10-2013 12:31PM

This thread makes me sad.

Cunning Stunt · 20-10-2013 12:40PM

even if you get the money legitimately through PayPal, he can still claim he either didn't get the phone or that it was damaged and Paypal will do a charge back. Steer clear.

YumDeiseMum · 20-10-2013 12:46PM

Was selling a laptop recently on donedeal and had the exact same thing happen.

The sceptic in me knew it had to be a scam, it's hard enough to get your asking price most times never mind over and above.

My scammer called himself Kelvin, here's his email to me

On 24 Sep 2013 17:33, "Kelvin Foley" <kevfoley150@live.com> wrote:
Hello there,
Thank you for the fast reply.
I am willing to proceed with the transaction now and pay you €350 which include p&p.kindly login to your paypal account and select the request money button located at the top of your paypal account homepage and send the money request directly to my paypal account id which is kevfoley150@live.com so that i can submit payment to you via paypal right now as paypal is safe, fast and easy to send and receive money online.

If you dont have a paypal account just login to www.paypal.com and set up your paypal account, after setting up your paypal account you locate the request money button located at the top of your paypal account home page, use it to request money directly from my paypal account which is kevfoley150@live.com once I receive your money request from paypal, I will submit payment to you immediately via paypal asap.

Get back asap.
Kelvin

stimpson · 20-10-2013 01:19PM

Stonky wrote: »

Ever write a cheque ? All your details are there plus your signature. Paranoid much?

Sure what could go wrong?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7174760.stm

Help me troll a scammer please.

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