A 4 year old girl has been found living with roma gypsies in GREECE[Mega Merge]

Fridge · 20-10-2013 01:53AM

Lia_lia wrote: »

Looks to me like it's dyed blonde! Looks very unnatural. My hair is naturally a kinda golden blonde and that is the exact colour it goes if I put bleach in it.

And do you think they bleached her eyebrows and gave her grey contact lenses too? Lots of Europeans have this shade of blonde, especially when they're young, and then it fades.

Abigayle · 20-10-2013 02:03AM

Fridge wrote: »

And do you think they bleached her eyebrows and gave her grey contact lenses too? Lots of Europeans have this shade of blonde, especially when they're young, and then it fades.

I agree with what you say about eye colour.

To me that hair has old colour in its lengths. A child's very light hair normally darkens in strands to begin with if it is going too start that.

The ends of that child's hair is a stark difference to her roots and half way down, where the colour changes dramatically.

Da Shins Kelly · 20-10-2013 02:05AM

How strange that she wasn't on a missing persons list or that no one has come forward to claim her. This story could become even more tragic, to be honest. What if she comes from people who didn't want her? Will she even remember her biological parents if they are reunited? Does she even speak the same language as them anymore? This is going to be so confusing and distressing for that little girl. How sad.

Frank Lee Midere · 20-10-2013 02:06AM

She's definitely not Roma. I agree she looks Eastern European. Poor mite. Lets hope she gets a nice adoptive family.

_Whimsical_ · 20-10-2013 02:07AM

Abigayle wrote: »

I agree with what you say about eye colour.

To me that hair has old colour in its lengths. A child's very light hair normally darkens in strands to begin with if it is going too start that.

The ends of that child's hair is a stark difference to her roots and half way down, where the colour changes dramatically.

She looks quite uncared for and unclean though. Her hands are very dirty,she might've been playing with her pig tails like kids do.

That said theres a short video of her on the news today at age 2ish and her hair looks much darker.

Frank Lee Midere · 20-10-2013 02:09AM

_Whimsical_ wrote: »

She looks quite uncared for and unclean though. Her hands are very dirty,she might've been playing with her pig tails like kids do.

That said theres a short video of her on the news today at age 2ish and her hair looks much darker.

Yes. I went back and looked and its either a dye or dirt on the pigtails.

Fridge · 20-10-2013 02:14AM

Abigayle wrote: »

To me that hair has old colour in its lengths. A child's very light hair normally darkens in strands to begin with if it is going too start that.

The ends of that child's hair is a stark difference to her roots and half way down, where the colour changes dramatically.

Yeah, I just mean you'd find more kids with bright blonde hair than adults, like y hair faded over time. But I'd definitely agree that there's either dye in the ends of her hair or dirt. Unless it's been ombréd.

What about the rest of the kids though that were all supposed to born in the same year? Are they also being investigated?

Abigayle · 20-10-2013 02:20AM

Fridge wrote: »

Yeah, I just mean you'd find more kids with bright blonde hair than adults, like y hair faded over time. But I'd definitely agree that there's either dye in the ends of her hair or dirt. Unless it's been ombréd.

What about the rest of the kids though that were all supposed to born in the same year? Are they also being investigated?

I see what you're saying, I'm just saying the hair doesn't look like it has grown out that way naturally. Early pictures of the child are amongst the brightest of blondes I've ever seen. My opinion obviously is just that, but and all one shade at the ends of her hair looks off.

I get the mud thing, I just diner think that's it.

_Whimsical_ · 20-10-2013 02:20AM

That no one has immediately claimed her makes me think that no one will. I can't help feeling that the evidence here does not point to a normal abduction at all and that something really really horrible was going on. Her parents might be dead at the hands of her abductors, her mother might have been little more than a child herself and might be in dire straits, her mother might be someone who was caught in a web of sex slavery and has since been trafficked. I don't think there'll be any happy ending for this little girl outside of an adoptive home.

If its true that false birth certs claiming the Roma woman had given birth six times in the last year were found this little girl might be very very lucky not to have met with a truly awful fate.

Da Shins Kelly · 20-10-2013 02:25AM

_Whimsical_ wrote: »

That no one has immediately claimed her makes me think that no one will. I can't help feeling that the evidence here does not point to a normal abduction at all and that something really really horrible was going on. Her parents might be dead at the hands of her abductors, her mother might have been little more than a child herself and might be in dire straits, her mother might be someone who was caught in a web of sex slavery and has since been trafficked. I don't think there'll be any happy ending for this little girl outside of an adoptive home.

If its true that false birth certs claiming the Roma woman had given birth six times in the last year were found this little girl might be very very lucky not to have met with a truly awful fate.

It doesn't seem like anyone has even been looking for her. I mean, the police had to publicly appeal for someone to come forward and claim her. I can only imagine that there's some tragic story behind all this.

Ericaa · 20-10-2013 03:03AM

Why are people here saying no one has come forward?

Last I read is that hundreds of families from across Europe have come forward claiming she's theirs.

flanders1979 · 20-10-2013 04:01AM

This story really sickens me.
We share our country with this lot.
Ffs.

MonaPizza · 20-10-2013 05:12AM

Let's ask ourselves a very simple...VERY simple question, Actually let's make it 2 or 3.

1. How many times do the authorities work to find lost or abducted children?
2. If a kid is not blond do they [the police] give a sh1t?
3. Why has so much tv time been given to this case when so many disappear every day?

donna 182 · 20-10-2013 05:29AM

MonaPizza wrote: »

Let's ask ourselves a very simple...VERY simple question, Actually let's make it 2 or 3.

1. How many times do the authorities work to find lost or abducted children?
2. If a kid is not blond do they [the police] give a sh1t?
3. Why has so much tv time been given to this case when so many disappear every day?

2/3: cute, white, blonde. If this was a little black girl from Africa it wouldn't be receiving so much media attention, sad but true. Missing white woman syndrome I believe they call it.

Micky Dolenz · 20-10-2013 08:52AM

There are thousands of missing kids across Europe. Who is to say this little girl isn't among them and is on a list somewhere. She may have been taken as a baby.

As of a couple of days ago there were 5000 inquires to either give info or cliam her. To say she is unwanted is a bit premature.

Hopefully the story has a happy ending.

Billy Bunting · 20-10-2013 09:27AM

I don't understand why a "cute, white, blonde" child, it's makes it so much harder to get away with it. Brings to mind the Idiot Abroard with Warwick Davis and the episode where they stayed with a Roma community and the Roma would secretly be touching the wee man, good luck or something, is there a Roma thing about "cute, white, blonde" children

Quazzie · 20-10-2013 09:33AM

Billy Bunting wrote: »

is there a Roma thing about "cute, white, blonde" children

They make more money when begging on the side of the street. People are more likely to give money to a cute blonde girl than they are to a Roma girl.

somuj · 20-10-2013 09:34AM

MonaPizza wrote: »

Let's ask ourselves a very simple...VERY simple question, Actually let's make it 2 or 3.

1. How many times do the authorities work to find lost or abducted children?
2. If a kid is not blond do they [the police] give a sh1t?
3. Why has so much tv time been given to this case when so many disappear every day?

Because the majority of us are pale skinned and we are programed to relate more to our own kind. Fact.

ted1 · 20-10-2013 09:44AM

donna 182 wrote: »

2/3: cute, white, blonde. If this was a little black girl from Africa it wouldn't be receiving so much media attention, sad but true. Missing white woman syndrome I believe they call it.

Europe is a white continents so the general population associates better. I have 2 very blonde young extrovert girls and I'm freaking out reading this.
We've taken to Sicily , Portugal , France and Tenerife every where we went the locals would be touching there hair , trying to kiss them on the cheeks. Its kind of scary especially as all these places have narrow side streets and alleys where its so easy to go missing. Myself and my wife never ever let them out of our site.

Mountainsandh · 20-10-2013 10:04AM

Abigayle wrote: »

I see what you're saying, I'm just saying the hair doesn't look like it has grown out that way naturally. Early pictures of the child are amongst the brightest of blondes I've ever seen. My opinion obviously is just that, but and all one shade at the ends of her hair looks off.

I get the mud thing, I just diner think that's it.

My little niece is so blond she was impossible to photograph as a baby because she used to "glow".
She's 7 now, and the very pale blondness is still there.
Spots have got a bit darker, but she does have bleached looking roots, all natural of course.
And that's a child in a French family, with a blond haired Mum issued from 2 dark skinned brown/black haired and eyed people, so the dark genes are there somewhere.
The totally bleached look is not shocking really if the gene pool is entirely nordic.

The ends definitely look like they've been dyed, I'm sure someone will be able to establish exactly how long ago the dye was used, that looks a good 2/3 years growth to my "mumsy" eye.

somuj · 20-10-2013 10:07AM

Mountainsandh wrote: »

My little niece is so blond she was impossible to photograph as a baby because she used to "glow".
She's 7 now, and the very pale blondness is still there.
Spots have got a bit darker, but she does have bleached looking roots, all natural of course.
And that's a child in a French family, with a blond haired Mum issued from 2 dark skinned brown/black haired and eyed people, so the dark genes are there somewhere.
The totally bleached look is not shocking really if the gene pool is entirely nordic.

The ends definitely look like they've been dyed, I'm sure someone will be able to establish exactly how long ago the dye was used, that looks a good 2/3 years growth to my "mumsy" eye.

Should prob get a DNA test done.

20-10-2013 10:12AM

I was incredibly blonde when I was younger. Then, as I grew older, my hair became more fair. So it does happen.

Two people have been arrested as far as I know.

Mountainsandh · 20-10-2013 10:15AM

somuj wrote: »

Should prob get a DNA test done.

ba dum tss

alexonhisown · 20-10-2013 10:19AM

Her hair looks dyed in one photo
But in other photo after its been washed its totally blonde.
The dye would hardly wash out that quick.

Would henna wash out that quick?
Just wondering if that is henna on her hands?

20-10-2013 10:22AM

alexonhisown wrote: »

Her hair looks dyed in one photo
But in other photo after its been washed its totally blonde.
The dye would hardly wash out that quick.

Would henna wash out that quick?
Just wondering if that is henna on her hands?

Would it not depend on how often they washed it? I'm guessing that if the authorities knew the child's hair had been dyed at some point, with said dye beginning to fade, then they would wash it until it's gone, to give the child a better chance at being identified.

20-10-2013 10:31AM

alexonhisown wrote: »

Her hair looks dyed in one photo
But in other photo after its been washed its totally blonde.
The dye would hardly wash out that quick.

Would henna wash out that quick?
Just wondering if that is henna on her hands?

No, henna is permanent and wouldn't wash out that quickly.

somuj wrote: »

Should prob get a DNA test done.

Siblings with very different appearances are not rare at all outside Ireland with its tiny gene pool. People at school used to say my brother should get a DNA test done because he looks nothing like me and my sister (we're olive skinned and dark eyed, he's pale, freckly and green eyed). Fact is, we have mixed ancestry - why wouldn't we have equal chance of coming out 'dark' or 'pale'?

20-10-2013 10:33AM

Madelyn Witty Glassware wrote: »

No, henna is permanent and wouldn't wash out that quickly.

Henna isn't that permanent, not always. You'd get some that would last 2 weeks max.

mattjack · 20-10-2013 10:35AM

MonaPizza wrote: »

Let's ask ourselves a very simple...VERY simple question, Actually let's make it 2 or 3.

1. How many times do the authorities work to find lost or abducted children?
2. If a kid is not blond do they [the police] give a sh1t?
3. Why has so much tv time been given to this case when so many disappear every day?

donna 182 wrote: »

2/3: cute, white, blonde. If this was a little black girl from Africa it wouldn't be receiving so much media attention, sad but true. Missing white woman syndrome I believe they call it.

There is a live system that's used to track individuals across Europe and possibly worldwide.Its used by police forces in different countries .It constantly updates itself and is used for terrorists , criminals of all types and missing people.

Irelands system a secure building.It's pretty impressive to see it working.It's not necessarily confined to young white women either.

I think the Gardai involved are a type of intelligence officer and it runs 24 hours a day.

20-10-2013 10:36AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Henna isn't that permanent, not always. You'd get some that would last 2 weeks max.

Are you talking about hair henna or tattoo henna? In my experience, henna is (almost?) always permanent when you put it on your hair. I've had mine on for 3-4 months and it's still there. Fading, but you can clearly see it, and I have dark hair. I can't see how henna would wash out of a blond child's hair that easily.

20-10-2013 10:38AM

Madelyn Witty Glassware wrote: »

Are you talking about hair henna or tattoo henna? In my experience, henna is (almost?) always permanent when you put it on your hair. I've had mine on for 3-4 months and it's still there. Fading, but you can clearly see it, and I have dark hair. I can't see how henna would wash out of a blond child's hair that easily.

Oh, tattoo henna. I have never heard of hair henna and can't see it in either photo. To Google! Oh, it just makes it browner? Is it possible that that's not what the child had, but rather just had it dyed brown? I've no idea. But are they trying to say that the photos are of 2 different children?

A 4 year old girl has been found living with roma gypsies in GREECE[Mega Merge]

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