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"Global warming is real and humans are responsbile"

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,999 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    hansfrei wrote: »
    :pac:


    Lol.


    Thats hilarious.
    Hilarious because you have evidence that its not happening? Feel free to post any actual evidence you have, or anything that contradicts the peer reviewed evidence in the original article that you found so funny.

    Plenty of references at the bottom of this article, I really couldn't be bothered listing them for you:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retreat_of_glaciers_since_1850

    Hundreds of reports from Greenland aswell, again feel free to post any evidence you have that its not happening:

    http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10000872396390444772804577621470127844642


  • Registered Users Posts: 209 ✭✭FootShooter


    Well, that article fits into the alarmists category so.
    Ignoring the negative feed back that is associated with rising temperatures, i.e. greater cloud cover blocking sunlight & reducing direct solar warming.

    The study is also not accounting for positive feedbacks which you just went ahead and ignored. The study is not about feedbacks, it's not actually ignoring them. Other studies take into account feedbacks, this is just the effect of human greenhouse gases as it clearly says.

    Although there is still much unknown about the effect of feedbacks and their exact effect, climate science is pretty much settled that positive feedbacks have a greater effect than negative feedbacks. Estimates say that feedbacks will increase warming by 15% - 78% just this century. A large range I know, let's just hope it's in the lower of that range.

    It's not even certain that clouds act as a negative feedback effect as you claim. It depends on the type of cloud, altitude, humidity and other factors whether it will have a net positive or negative effect on temperature.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,676 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    hansfrei wrote: »
    Ice caps are either going to decrease in size or increase in size? They're increasing now. Thats the problem. No one is making a clear case for climate.change.

    Wrong
    The ice caps are both losing ice mass. The people who told you that the ice caps are growing are lying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,676 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Well, that article fits into the alarmists category so.
    Ignoring the negative feed back that is associated with rising temperatures, i.e. greater cloud cover blocking sunlight & reducing direct solar warming.

    The latest data show that increased cloud cover is actually a positive feedback. Clouds do reflect some light, but they also trap heat at night. The best data that we have now says that increased clouds lead to a warmer planet


  • Registered Users Posts: 915 ✭✭✭hansfrei


    Akrasia wrote: »
    Wrong
    The ice caps are both losing ice mass. The people who told you that the ice caps are growing are lying.

    Course they are. Its all a big conspiracy. Last years arctic ice sheet was 950,000 miles square. At the same point this year it was 1.1m square miles.

    Conspiracy theories forum ---->


  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Akrasia wrote: »
    The latest data show that increased cloud cover is actually a positive feedback. Clouds do reflect some light, but they also trap heat at night. The best data that we have now says that increased clouds lead to a warmer planet
    Yes, clouds do increase the night time temperatures, but they reduce the daytime temperatures more, thus leaving less heat to be trapped the following night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭Red Nissan


    We are leaving our current ice age and heading for a period of ice free state. The world has been ice free for longer in her history than in an ice age.

    Ireland will become wetter, possibly tropical rainforest and the US will invade us for our water, mark my words.

    You have been warned.


  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Red Nissan wrote: »
    We are leaving our current ice age and heading for a period of ice free state. The world has been ice free for longer in her history than in an ice age.

    Ireland will become wetter, possibly tropical rainforest and the US will invade us for our water, mark my words.

    You have been warned.
    It won't be the US, it'll be the Arabs!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,301 ✭✭✭Daveysil15




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,676 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Yes, clouds do increase the night time temperatures, but they reduce the daytime temperatures more, thus leaving less heat to be trapped the following night.
    We can speculate using 'common sense' till the cows come home, but when we use science, and input the data, the best answer we have so far is that more clouds = more heat.

    http://www.skepticalscience.com/clouds-negative-feedback.htm


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  • Registered Users Posts: 209 ✭✭FootShooter


    hansfrei wrote: »
    Course they are. Its all a big conspiracy. Last years arctic ice sheet was 950,000 miles square. At the same point this year it was 1.1m square miles.

    Conspiracy theories forum ---->

    Yesterday the temperature was 14 C. Today it's 15 C. Summer must be on it's way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,676 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Daveysil15 wrote: »
    I like George Carlin
    He's funny.

    He was very good at his job of being funny.

    I also like Bill Hicks,he was funny too.

    Bill Hicks made lots of jokes saying that smoking wasn't that bad for you. He died of lung cancer. He stopped smoking before he died but it was too late for him.

    "Non smokers die every day" That's true Bill, but if you were a non smoker, you'd probably still be alive.

    "Climate changes all by itself", that's also true, but it changes a lot more when we pump blazillions of tonnes of climate changing gasses into the atmosphere.......

    We can quit polluting when we're dying of climate change cancer , but that's a bit too late...

    And it's even worse than that. Smoking will 'probably' kill you when you're old after you've had your fun. Global warming will let you have lots of fun, but will kill your grandchildren


  • Registered Users Posts: 505 ✭✭✭inocybe


    Red Nissan wrote: »
    We are leaving our current ice age and heading for a period of ice free state. The world has been ice free for longer in her history than in an ice age.

    Ireland will become wetter, possibly tropical rainforest and the US will invade us for our water, mark my words.

    You have been warned.

    Winter is coming

    http://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/ice-age-interrupted


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,999 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    More evidence against claims human contributions cant have any effect on the Earths climate:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-24874060


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