So called sex symbols you never understood why.

Itwasntme. · 12-10-2013 05:37PM

--Kaiser-- wrote: »

Ahem. I call shenanigans on her looking young because of a raw vegan diet. A raw vegan diet is not ideal or healthy in the first place*, and secondly her youth may have nothing to do with her diet and may be down to her specific genetics (besides which, people of African descent tend to age better due to thicker skin).

Actually I even call shenanigans on her even being the age she claims

*Comprehensive debuking of raw foodist nonsense

Nonsense is what the dietitians and food scientists are calling it at this moment in time. But our knowledge of what is healthy and what is not is constantly changing and a raw vegan diet seems to be working for her. I would imagine it's not so much the diet as the fact that she grows most of her own food and as such is ingesting a smaller amount of pesticides and the like which has contributed to her good health. And while her youthful appearance maybe be down to more than just her diet, she is not lying about her age. The vid shows her driver's licence and while that can be forged, she has also been married for 54 years and has grand children in their 20s.

Jimoslimos · 12-10-2013 05:45PM

Wibbs wrote: »

Then again what might be working is not so much the type of diet, but the amount of calories she's taking in. High nutrient low calorie diets are the only proven way(outside of genetic manipulation) to extend longevity and health in mammals, so if she was getting all the nutrients, but in a low cal package that might explain it, but we'd be talking very low calories. Those longevity diets are under 1000 cals a day so maybe not.

Actually the evidence for low calorie/high longevity diets (in humans) is sketchy at best and I don't think it has ever been conclusively proven to be effective. The original studies, many years ago in rodents, did show enormous benefits but didn't transfer in a similar fashion when human trials were done.

--Kaiser-- · 12-10-2013 05:54PM

Itwasntme. wrote: »

Nonsense is what the dietitians and food scientists are calling it at this moment in time. But our knowledge of what is healthy and what is not is constantly changing and a raw vegan diet seems to be working for her. I would imagine it's not so much the diet as the fact that she grows most of her own food and as such is ingesting a smaller amount of pesticides and the like which has contributed to her good health. And while her youthful appearance maybe be down to more than just her diet, she is not lying about her age. The vid shows her driver's licence and while that can be forged, she has also been married for 54 years and has grand children in their 20s.

Right, well I'd listen to scientists over a bunch of filthy hippies any day of the week. Even the precept of this diet, that humans are natural herbivores, is demonstrably false and goes so against all knowledge of human biology, nutrition, paleontology and archeology you'd have to be close to brain damaged to subscribe to it

Zirconia · 12-10-2013 05:58PM

SilSil wrote: »

Helen Mirren - it's not lovely to look her

Really:
http://imgc.artprintimages.com/images/art-print/helen-mirren_i-G-54-5487-9TQKG00Z.jpg

quickbeam · 12-10-2013 06:36PM

Jake1 wrote: »

As a Woman, I love the power of make up when I do bother with it. You can go from plain to Decent in a few minutes

have a look at the girl in link below, to me seems quite average looking, then Bam! the make up goes on and you have a Bombshell

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2454391/Is-wearing-make-betrayal-One-womans-dramatic-transformation-sparks-online-backlash.html

I'm not a fan of make-up and I genuinely think she looks better in the first picture.

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Lengthening my eyelashes and giving my lips more definition with lip-liner/lip-stain (not even lipstick) is going to make me look better. It's not rocket science!

I can't argue with your specific case as I don't know what you look like with and without makeup. But I do wonder why men don't wear makeup if it improves appearance so much (I know some do, but I mean to the same prevalence that women do). I think it's far more of a societal norm for women than actually required to make them look better.

IvaBigWun · 12-10-2013 06:45PM

karaokeman wrote: »

Marylin Monroe, even in her day

Not true

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_nLZy6cZ8AJw/TO1OkWmezZI/AAAAAAAAChM/KgT1GSbB3Eg/s320/MarilynMonroe12.jpg

Femme_Fatale · 12-10-2013 06:49PM

I'd guess youthfulness is mostly down to genes and staying out of the sun, but healthy living and a good moisturiser are bound to be factors also.

quickbeam wrote: »

I'm not a fan of make-up and I genuinely think she looks better in the first picture.

I can't argue with your specific case as I don't know what you look like with and without makeup. But I do wonder why men don't wear makeup if it improves appearance so much (I know some do, but I mean to the same prevalence that women do). I think it's far more of a societal norm for women than actually required to make them look better.

I don't wear much make-up - just enough to accentuate my eyes and lips. I don't bother with foundation, powder, lipstick, bright colours. It's possible to put on make-up in such a way as to look natural still.
I agree too much make-up looks awful though.

I guess men don't wear make-up because it makes them look feminine.

Czarcasm · 12-10-2013 07:05PM

quickbeam wrote: »

I'm not a fan of make-up and I genuinely think she looks better in the first picture.

Picture comparisons like that are just daft, because in the first picture they've purposely made her look frumpy, the full Bridget Jones effect, whereas in the second picture it's not just the make up but they've done her hair, the lighting, the works! Neither pose looks any way natural either, but certainly she looks far healthier in the second picture and healthier is generally more attractive than the pasty blemish riddled face with dry, split ended hair in the first picture.

I can't argue with your specific case as I don't know what you look like with and without makeup. But I do wonder why men don't wear makeup if it improves appearance so much (I know some do, but I mean to the same prevalence that women do). I think it's far more of a societal norm for women than actually required to make them look better.

Men won't wear make-up because for most men it's considered effeminate. Women generally aren't attracted to men who wear make-up because they're supposed to look rugged (we've all seen beautiful men, David Beckham was one, but as he's aged, he's become more rugged and thankfully got rid of the sarong and hair band for a six pack, stubble and tattoos, which is probably as close to male "make-up" as you're going to get!). Then there's army camouflage and maori tattoos (both used to convey aggression rather than beautify, "war paint" if you will).

It's only in the last decade or so that male cosmetics beyond a splash of old spice and a slick of hair oil have become more mainstream, like moisturisers and concealers, but a man wearing guyliner and lippy? I don't think that's ever going to catch on in mainstream society tbh

Howard Juneau · 12-10-2013 07:22PM

Jake1 wrote: »

Then there is Raquel Welsh , who in my book is STILL stunning. Ok, she does wear a LOT of makeup, but still I think she is gorgeous 73??

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2427840/Raquel-Welch-73-outshines-starlets-half-age-leopard-print-dress-Varietys-pre-Emmy-bash.html

See the episode of Sabrina the Teenage Witch...tight spandex & hot as hell

max life · 12-10-2013 07:26PM

Helen Flanagan.....aka Plain Jane. I would not look twice at her in a niteclub...so over-rated

IvaBigWun · 12-10-2013 07:29PM

max life wrote: »

Helen Flanagan.....aka Plain Jane. I would not look twice at her in a niteclub...so over-rated

Lies!

http://i3.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article86542.ece/ALTERNATES/s1023/helen-flanagan-wearing-an-agent-provocatueur-dress-pic-helenflanagan1-twitter-200362204-86542.jpg

Tilikum · 12-10-2013 07:31PM

Cameron Diaz. A huge mouth with eyes that are freakishly far apart.

max life · 12-10-2013 07:47PM

IvaBigWun wrote: »

Lies!

http://i3.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article86542.ece/ALTERNATES/s1023/helen-flanagan-wearing-an-agent-provocatueur-dress-pic-helenflanagan1-twitter-200362204-86542.jpg

Face for Crimewatch, Body for Baywatch!

Czarcasm · 12-10-2013 07:50PM

IvaBigWun wrote: »

Lies!

http://i3.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article86542.ece/ALTERNATES/s1023/helen-flanagan-wearing-an-agent-provocatueur-dress-pic-helenflanagan1-twitter-200362204-86542.jpg

The mad eyeballs on her, honestly, whatever is up with her eyes it's like she constantly has that "rabbit caught in the headlights" look about her.

No sex appeal whatsoever, again I can understand why people would consider her attractive, but iconic sex appeal?

Old Dan Tucker · 12-10-2013 07:51PM

Uma Thurman.

IvaBigWun · 12-10-2013 07:55PM

Czarcasm wrote: »

but iconic sex appeal?

Not at all.

A fun one night stand? Definitely

max life · 12-10-2013 08:00PM

IvaBigWun wrote: »

Not at all.

A fun one night stand? Definitely

Just put a bag over her head! Actually she would be a 2 bag situation. The first bag would be to cover her head and the second bag would be in case the first one fell off!

Daveysil15 · 12-10-2013 08:05PM

max life wrote: »

Helen Flanagan.....aka Plain Jane. I would not look twice at her in a niteclub...so over-rated

I'd eat chips out of her knickers. Her and Debbie Dingle from Emmerdale.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JI_31gnTGEY

Femme_Fatale · 12-10-2013 08:06PM

max life wrote: »

Just put a bag over her head! Actually she would be a 2 bag situation. The first bag would be to cover her head and the second bag would be in case the first one fell off!

I know you don't fancy her but you don't really think she's that ugly surely?

Means Of Escape · 12-10-2013 08:09PM

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

Both absolute beauties. Wasn't aware the latter was a sex symbol, though I do think she's a perfect argument as to why conventional 'beauty' means little.

Liz Taylor blows both out of the water
Ava Gardner and Lana Turner were also stunningly beautiful women in their day

As for Monica Bellucci...............!!!

IvaBigWun · 12-10-2013 08:17PM

Old Dan Tucker wrote: »

Uma Thurman.

In her heyday she was a great looking woman.

Here's one; Tu fooking lisa

This woman was once voted the hottest in the world by FHM readers

http://db2.stb.s-msn.com/i/B1/FE94C4B6D5A4CB41EDD7B50AE87A3.jpg

Oops! · 12-10-2013 08:17PM

IvaBigWun wrote: »

Lies!

http://i3.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article86542.ece/ALTERNATES/s1023/helen-flanagan-wearing-an-agent-provocatueur-dress-pic-helenflanagan1-twitter-200362204-86542.jpg

Na, i agree. Just a big pair tits like Salpa. Well that's the only part of her i'd be starring at anyway.

GalwayGuy2 · 12-10-2013 08:19PM

I've got a student from Poland in my class who's the absolute SPIT of Scarlett (minus the massive cleavage) and has the very same voice but with a Polish accent, so you can just imagine. She's probably the most naturally stunning woman I've ever been in close proximity with.

I actually groaned when I read that

Czarcasm · 12-10-2013 08:19PM

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

I know you don't fancy her but you don't really think she's that ugly surely?

I would've said one paper bag would do, but duck tape her gob first because her voice is like nails on a chalkboard!

Actually, no, I wouldn't even bother with a paper bag because she's like a child in a young woman's body, the whole way she carries herself like a newborn deer, pure awkward!

IvaBigWun · 12-10-2013 08:20PM

Oops! wrote: »

Na, i agree. Just a big pair tits like Salpa. Well that's the only part of her i'd be starring at anyway.

Actually. Now that Ive looked at her face, those eyebrows are scary.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 12-10-2013 08:20PM

Tilikum wrote: »

Cameron Diaz. A huge mouth with eyes that are freakishly far apart.

She hasn't aged well at all. Looks like a bag of bones middle aged housewife at the moment

Oops! · 12-10-2013 08:22PM

Means Of Escape wrote: »

Liz Taylor blows both out of the water
Ava Gardner and Lana Turner were also stunningly beautiful women in their day

As for Monica Bellucci...............!!!

Now that's a proper woman!

max life · 12-10-2013 08:23PM

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

I know you don't fancy her but you don't really think she's that ugly surely?

She gets way too much airtime. Seen her interviewed before and she said that she has self confidence issues and that she was self conscious about her acne. Yet she still does modelling???? Inconsistent in what she says and what she does:mad:

Legs.Eleven · 12-10-2013 08:32PM

GalwayGuy2 wrote: »

I actually groaned when I read that

There was an Irish guy teaching the class last year - tenner bets he loved going to work everyday.

Itwasntme. · 12-10-2013 08:48PM

max life wrote: »

Face for Crimewatch, Body for Baywatch!

IvaBigWun wrote: »

In her heyday she was a great looking woman.

Here's one; Tu fooking lisa

This woman was one voted the hottest in the world by FHM readers

http://db2.stb.s-msn.com/i/B1/FE94C4B6D5A4CB41EDD7B50AE87A3.jpg

I don't like either of them and the makeup in both photos is garish but, and I guess that's what this thread's about, I don't understand how anyone can call them anything less than pretty, never mind double paper bagging them.

So called sex symbols you never understood why.

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