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'D4 accent will disappear after economic crisis'

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  • Posts: 12,694 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    How do people accents change that what I want to know, you accent is fixed by the time you are 6 or something like that. I use a lot of Irishisms when I speak and a fair few words in Irish I know I got this form my mother so surly the way parents speak is a much bigger influence that the TV?

    how can peoples accent change as adults must be difficult to do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,679 ✭✭✭Crooked Jack


    Some of the regional accents are awful as well though. I like to travel the country of a dry weekend, but would avoid places like North Meath, Monaghan and Armagh for fear of overexposure to their mouth noises.

    The Monaghan accent is almost offensive to the ear.

    This fine lady, proves you wrong.

    http://www.rte.ie/presspack/files/2012/12/raw5_cast_186.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    A leading expert on language, diction and vocabulary believes that the 'affected D4' accent, referring to the distinct pronunciation of people on the 'DART line' will soon disappear.

    I'm confused. What does the Dart have to do with it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,467 ✭✭✭Oasis_Dublin


    humanji wrote: »
    I'm confused. What does the Dart have to do with it?

    I think they are talking about the Bayside accent. Bayside is on the DART line.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,062 ✭✭✭Fighting Irish


    Great news story


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    I think they are talking about the Bayside accent. Bayside is on the DART line.
    Bayside definitely doesn't have a D4 accent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,467 ✭✭✭Oasis_Dublin


    humanji wrote: »
    Bayside definitely doesn't have a D4 accent.

    But it's on the DART line. It, therefore, must have one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    I suppose so. The Independent wouldn't steer us wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,932 ✭✭✭The Saint


    humanji wrote: »
    What does the Dart have to do with it?

    What's Dart but a form of locomotion.....


  • Posts: 12,694 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I cant stand Americanism creeping in to our version of the English language having said that I think the D4 accent mines the Americanism is pleasant to listen to. There seem to huge resentment to the D4 type accent which acutely seems to be a resentment based on a stereotype, and a resentment of confidence, wealth, education, someone's accent does not define them I like lots of Irish accents I think the nordy accent is lovely!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 556 ✭✭✭jethro081


    Some of the regional accents are awful as well though. I like to travel the country of a dry weekend, but would avoid places like North Meath, Monaghan and Armagh for fear of overexposure to their mouth noises.

    The Monaghan accent is almost offensive to the ear.

    nah, that's just when you come around. It's a very pleasant speech pattern, but we make it abrasive when we see people who are very obviously complete cunts roll into town.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    What focking crisis?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,265 ✭✭✭youtube!


    I honestly thought this thread was about a rather average car made by Hyundai, need to get my eyes checked over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,746 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    Few years ago I heard Terry Dolan on Newstalk saying that the Dublin working class and other regional accents were doomed as girls, and therefore future mothers, were taking on an Americanised/D4 accent. Their children would follow then suit. :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    It's in danger? We should start shovelling millions into it, force feed it to kids and give it its own tv station. That'll save it for sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,237 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    c_man wrote: »
    It's in danger? We should start shovelling millions into it, force feed it to kids and give it its own tv station. That'll save it for sure.

    Aye. We could call it the Thousand Year Roysh! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭Surveyor11


    I think they should be classified as a separate ethic group to protect this accent, like travellers. That would be pretty ironic.


  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Geomy wrote: »
    I know guy's from the bog arse of Clare who after one term in Trinners or UCD, DCU came home speaking like Bob Geldof

    Funny, I find the opposite.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,812 ✭✭✭Vojera


    mariaalice wrote: »
    How do people accents change that what I want to know, you accent is fixed by the time you are 6 or something like that. I use a lot of Irishisms when I speak and a fair few words in Irish I know I got this form my mother so surly the way parents speak is a much bigger influence that the TV?

    how can peoples accent change as adults must be difficult to do.

    I speak in a very neutral accent with a hint of Dub. I'm from the back-arse of Donegal. I've been living in and around Dublin for over ten years and no one could understand a word I said when I first moved up so I had to make conscious adjustments to communicate. Now I can't switch back to my "real" accent unless I'm actually talking to someone from Donegal. I can't put it on on purpose but sometimes it slips out when I'm very tired or a bit drunk.

    People have guessed I'm from virtually every other county in Ireland and sometimes even other countries, but no one believes me when I tell them I'm from Donegal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,844 ✭✭✭Honey-ec


    even the girls from west kerry talk in D4 accents after a couple of smokes outside the arts block.

    Don't you mean the Orts block?
    vixdname wrote: »
    I have to say that of all D4 accents I've heard, Lottie Ryan on 2FM has to be about the worst of the lot, its so manufactured it sounds like she bought it some where......

    Moychael McMullen from Today FM is even worse again.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 35,675 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    My kid is 4. Watches a lot of Peppa Pig. Now he speaks with a posh english accent.
    Its gas!

    Pep paww is in the caaawwsill

    Lol my niece does it. Hilarious stuff altogether :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,123 ✭✭✭RikkFlair


    Honey-ec wrote: »
    Moychael McMullen from Today FM is even worse again.

    Rachel Allen who does the cookery show on RTE. I was CONVINCED she was actually American.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,339 ✭✭✭adocholiday


    There's no sign of it to disappear yet as far as I can tell. I get the 46a/145 into work everyday and the amount of fake accented knob heads that get on/off at UCD in their oversized baggy abercrombie gear with fookin Beats on their head would drive you nuts. I hate getting the bus when I have no music with me to block it out.

    The worst recent event was last Friday. This gaggle of 13-14 year old girls got on the bus at Donnybrook and one of them goes (am going to add accent here for effect):

    "OOOOOhh My Gawd, I hoven't been on the bus in loike 3 years it's SOOOOO funny. My mom doesn't loike me to get it she usually loike takes me to where I wont to go in the jeep". They were screaming at nothing, using abbreviations that I'd never heard of, and talking complete and utter sh**e, most of them with iPhones(for what!).

    With the next generation spewing that kind of crap and with that carry on, there is no chance of the faux posh accent going anywhere. I mean I'm very happy to live on the south side but any kids I may ever have are not going to school here!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,906 ✭✭✭✭PhlegmyMoses


    It's a real accent, though, isn't it? I know some people may put it on and over-exaggerate it but I remember being very young when I heard kids from those areas my own age speaking like that. No way they could be putting it on at 6 and 7 years old.

    The "Northside" Dublin accent (which is mine) is also over-exaggerated by many but there is a real accent in there for these people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,467 ✭✭✭Oasis_Dublin


    Honey-ec wrote: »
    Don't you mean the Orts block?



    Moychael McMullen from Today FM is even worse again.

    The greatest radio ever used to be Michael McMullen and Phil Yates discussing snooker. The two most ridiculous accents in the world, on one Irish nationwide radio station.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭melekalikimaka


    its not a made up accent, some people pick it up, but there are large parts of dublin where its the standard accent, i find it really odd that people think its completely made up :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,863 ✭✭✭touts


    Oh MY GOD. An Economic Crisis? Loike when is that supposed to happen? Is that why the Burlo is full of forignors from loike Poland and Leitrim and stuff? Are they loike refuguees?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭lufties


    its not a made up accent, some people pick it up, but there are large parts of dublin where its the standard accent, i find it really odd that people think its completely made up :confused:

    My brother's missus is from cavan, living in dublin for the last 10 years and I noticed she picked up an accent similar to the "Dort', Its not as exaggerated as the D4 but its very like the AA roadwatch girls with their 'ryndabite', its so cringeworthy and fake ,but Irish females all over the country are speaking like this, its like the culchie girls are embarrassed by their native accents. Anyone else agree?


  • Administrators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 18,841 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭hullaballoo


    its not a made up accent, some people pick it up, but there are large parts of dublin where its the standard accent, i find it really odd that people think its completely made up :confused:
    It's also just an accent. How people can get so riled up about the way some other people speak is completely beyond me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,593 ✭✭✭Sea Sharp


    There's people who've been talking like that for 10 + years, they won't drop their accent too easily.
    Not gonna happen dot com.


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