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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,245 ✭✭✭myshirt


    kowloon wrote: »
    There's quite a few roles in glassware manufacture due to the burgeoning demand for penis beakers.

    Seen that on Mumsnet earlier. F#cking brilliant!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,450 ✭✭✭✭El Guapo!


    kowloon wrote: »
    It's a Thread Artist, El Guapo. :pac:

    It's pronounced "Artiste"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 559 ✭✭✭urabell


    I've heard bin men referred to as 'waste management and disposal technicians''

    Please spare me a lecture on how much skill and training it takes to be one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Is a cleaner a "floor technician"?

    Would you object to someone who uses their knowledge of harsh chemicals and acrylic finishes to remove and reapply technical floor coatings being called a floor technician?

    Same job as a nail tech.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 559 ✭✭✭urabell


    MadsL wrote: »
    Let’s take a look at one ingredient that changes how a gel cures. That ingredient is the photoinitiator. The photoinitiator gets its name from the gel chemistry term initiator. The initiator is triggered by the activator; Ultra Violet Light Energy... Not complicated

    There are many factors that come into play to make high quality gels.
    NSI’s gels are specifically formulated with unique combination of several types of oligomers (short pre-formed chains of monomers) which create the structure and backbone of the gel system. Other ingredients include the photoinitator, which jump starts the polymerization process, and adhesion promoters, which help the gel adhere to the natural nail. Nail technicians have nothing to do with the manufacturing of the gels

    Think if how different a recipe would be if you altered the number of eggs or cups of flour. It is the quantities of each of these ingredients and the addition of other substances that make NSI gels unique and proprietary. NSI has created the special “recipe” after numerous formulations. Nothing to do with the technicians

    Let’s take one ingredient that changes how a gel cures. That ingredient is the photoinitiator. The photoinitiator gets its name from the gel chemistry term initiator. The initiator is triggered by the activator; Ultra Violet Light Energy.

    PHOTOINITIATORS
    Photoinitiators (PIs) are light sensitive and decompose into free radicals to start the polymerization process. PIs absorb UV light and convert it into the energy needed to drive the polymerization process (UV curing).

    PhotoInitiator


    The specific combination and type of PIs used in a system greatly dictates the properties of the gel. In general, the more PIs there are in a formula, the faster the cure. This can have its own downside. High amounts of PIs can cause excessive exotherms which will heat up on the clients’ nails. This is especially uncomfortable for the clients whose nails have been damaged by excessive filing, drilling or harsh abrasives.

    The thicker the gel is applied the more PIs are present in that layer and the higher the temperature of the exothermic reaction. Thick layers in pigmented gels inhibit the UV light to penetrate entirely as the energy has already been used to excite the PIs in the top layers. Thinner layers of UV gel cure more thoroughly and create less heat while curing.

    Too high a concentration of PIs can translate to brittleness, service breakdown and discoloration. PI levels that are too low equal weakness, loss of adhesion, higher likelihood of allergic reaction, and under cured product.

    Using the proper photoinitiators at the correct amount in a UV gel is the most difficult task facing scientists who formulate these types of products. Three of the most important factors in UV curing are:
    1. Proper balance between the photo initiator and UV lamp
    2. The intensity of available UV light
    3. The duration of the UV exposure

    Through various testing phases, the R&D department of NSI formulated the perfect level of photoinitiators for their Balance UV Gel System. The Balance Gels offer a slightly lower photoinitiator level for less heat generation (remember that direct correlation between photoinitiators and exotherms). At the same time, the levels are high enough to cure the gel in 90-120 seconds. Higher-pigmented gels, such as white and color gels, require the longer cure time of 120 seconds. Also, NSI recommends clear tips or forms and the use of a 36 Watt (four 9 Watt bulbs) lamp for optimum results.

    UNDER CURING
    The major cause of service breakdown with any gel system is that the gel has not sufficiently cured. One cause can be the use of an incorrect lamp for a particular system. Not all lamps are created equal and some give off more UV energy than others. The Ultra Pro Full Hand Lamp from NSI emits enough UV energy for any gel product.

    Using the correct lamp is just a part of the solution. Another problem is that nail technicians don’t change their bulbs frequently. First mention of nail techs and they're already doing something wrong despite all this training A UV Lamp will go on for several years and all you see is that the light is on. The bulbs do not necessarily burn out. However, there exists the possibility that the bulbs are NOT giving off UV. Remember, just because the light it on, doesn’t mean it is emitting UV energy. UV light energy is invisible (see the visible light spectrum below).

    WaveLength

    Under curing can lead to a potentially serious problem when non-reacted ingredients are left inside the enhancement. Normally, these ingredients would react and become a permanent part of the artificial nail. Non-reacted chemicals can expose the client to ingredients that can be sensitizing with overexposure. A client might complain of itchy or warm nail beds.

    Again, it is important to use the UV lamp designed for your particular UV gel system, and change the bulbs every 2 – 4 months.

    10 characters....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 142 ✭✭ThePieintheSky


    MadsL wrote: »
    Have you any idea of the technical nature of gel and acrylic nails?

    What's the technical nature of a nail file?

    What's the technical nature of a sweeping brush?

    What's the technical nature of a wheelie bin?

    So any job in any area basically comes under the technical tag does it?

    They clean nails, they file nails, they brush nails, they paint nails. It's not rocket science and stop trying to paint it as such (pardon the pun).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    urabell wrote: »
    I've heard bin men referred to as 'waste management and disposal technicians''

    Please spare me a lecture on how much skill and training it takes to be one.

    What does that have to do with nail techs? Are you saying that nail techs have the same skill level and expertise??

    And bin men? Dearie me. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 30,731 ✭✭✭✭princess-lala



    They clean nails, they file nails, they brush nails, they paint nails. It's not rocket science and stop trying to paint it as such (pardon the pun).

    It's not easy either


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 142 ✭✭ThePieintheSky


    El Guapo! wrote: »
    Nothing worse than starting a thread and having it backfire monumentally.

    Hard luck, OP.
    Maybe you should get some training as a thread technician.

    It hasn't backfired. The fragile, ill at ease, defenders of the peasantry all seem to hop on these things more than the sensible.

    And, no, I have nothing against peasants by the way. That's tongue in cheek.

    Jeez when I use to be a lurker this place seemed a good laugh. Now everyone seems serious. What gives?

    The OP is not serious you know.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,478 ✭✭✭wexie


    kowloon wrote: »
    There's quite a few roles in glassware manufacture due to the burgeoning demand for penis beakers.

    Couldn't help googling it

    :eek:

    Penis beaker.....

    I thought maybe it was some kind of specialised chemistry glassware

    :o


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 559 ✭✭✭urabell


    It's not easy either

    Is there any job you'll admit is 'easy' then?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 39 Miss Behaviour


    I don't care what you call them, I love my nail technician! Can't afford a visit at the moment so it's Kiko Ultramarine Blue for the next few days!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,478 ✭✭✭wexie


    It hasn't backfired. But I'm going to do some back pedalling just in case.

    I still think AH is fun :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 30,731 ✭✭✭✭princess-lala


    urabell wrote: »
    Is there any job you'll admit is 'easy' then?

    I never said jobs are easy but I know for a fact doing nails isn't easy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    What's the technical nature of a nail file?

    What's the technical nature of a sweeping brush?

    What's the technical nature of a wheelie bin?

    So any job in any area basically comes under the technical tag does it?

    They clean nails, they file nails, they brush nails, they paint nails. It's not rocket science and stop trying to paint it as such (pardon the pun).

    So you will be able to answer the following easy questions then.

    When would you recommend gels over acrylics for a client, or shellac?
    What types of fungus affect nail beds, what is the effective treatment and what nail treatments should be avoided?
    Can you add gel over acrylics?
    When gluing a tip on, what should you do if an air bubble appears?
    What is the hazard of using nail bleach?
    How can AIDS be transmitted in a salon?
    What should you do if your client has fortified nails?

    Or you could save face now and just admit you know nothing about this technical business.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 559 ✭✭✭urabell


    MadsL wrote: »
    So you will be able to answer the following easy questions then.

    When would you recommend gels over acrylics for a client, or shellac?
    What types of fungus affect nail beds, what is the effective treatment and what mail treatments should be avoided?
    Can you add gel over acrylics?
    When gluing a tip on, what should you do if an air bubble appears?
    What is the hazard of using nail bleach?
    How can AIDS be transmitted in a salon?
    What should you do if your client has fortified nails?

    Nobody is saying it's innate knowledge, but I'm sure it all becomes very clear after a PLC in the local further education institute


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    Doing my part for the economy.

    You're certainly doing your bit to single-handedly keep the supercilious tripe economy afloat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 142 ✭✭ThePieintheSky


    MadsL wrote: »
    So you will be able to answer the following easy questions then.

    When would you recommend gels over acrylics for a client, or shellac?
    What types of fungus affect nail beds, what is the effective treatment and what nail treatments should be avoided?
    Can you add gel over acrylics?
    When gluing a tip on, what should you do if an air bubble appears?
    What is the hazard of using nail bleach?
    How can AIDS be transmitted in a salon?
    What should you do if your client has fortified nails?

    Or you could save face now and just admit you know nothing about this technical business.

    You should stop making it sound like a top job. Lemmings could answer all of your questions.

    I'm not going for the job. But I will pass you the link if you like and you can apply for this highly technical, highly demanding, highly rewarding engineering role.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    urabell wrote: »
    Nobody is saying it's innate knowledge, but I'm sure it all becomes very clear after a PLC in the local further education institute

    I'm sure it does. Once you qualify as a technician.

    Sure, all radiographers do is take photographs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭AndonHandon


    MadsL wrote: »
    So you will be able to answer the following easy questions then.

    When would you recommend gels over acrylics for a client, or shellac?
    What types of fungus affect nail beds, what is the effective treatment and what nail treatments should be avoided?
    Can you add gel over acrylics?
    When gluing a tip on, what should you do if an air bubble appears?
    What is the hazard of using nail bleach?
    How can AIDS be transmitted in a salon?
    What should you do if your client has fortified nails?

    Or you could save face now and just admit you know nothing about this technical business.
    That is an extremely serious question. It applies not just to HIV but hepatitis also. Nail-filing tools could have a teeny bit of blood on them and cut you; bing bang wollop you have aids.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 30,731 ✭✭✭✭princess-lala


    urabell wrote: »
    Nobody is saying it's innate knowledge, but I'm sure it all becomes very clear after a PLC in the local further education institute

    :eek:

    So now its a dig at PLC courses??


  • Posts: 168 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sometimes I see misspelled words in job advertisements and I wonder is it done on purpose to see when a person applies if they have good english.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    You should stop making it sound like a top job. Lemmings could answer all of your questions.

    Go on then.
    I'm not going for the job. But I will pass you the link if you like and you can apply for this highly technical, highly demanding, highly rewarding engineering role.


    No one said it was an engineering job.

    But it is demanding (pleasing wimmins) and technical.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 30,731 ✭✭✭✭princess-lala


    MadsL wrote: »

    But it is demanding (pleasing wimmins) and technical.

    Very fooking demanding


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 142 ✭✭ThePieintheSky


    That is an extremely serious question. It applies not just to HIV but hepatitis also. Nail-filing tools could have a teeny bit of blood on them and cut you; bing bang wollop you have aids.

    Cleanliness, a steady hand and good eyesight. What more is to be said?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    That is an extremely serious question. It applies not just to HIV but hepatitis also. Nail-filing tools could have a teeny bit of blood on them and cut you; bing bang wollop you have aids.

    Nail techs also use razors.

    Blood-borne pathogen training is an important part of any body work training.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 559 ✭✭✭urabell


    That is an extremely serious question. It applies not just to HIV but hepatitis also. Nail-filing tools could have a teeny bit of blood on them and cut you; bing bang wollop you have aids.

    Do people actually need training to know not to touch someone with another person's blood?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭MadsL


    Cleanliness, a steady hand and good eyesight. What more is to be said?

    Have a shot at the questions I asked. Can you answer them? Even with google?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 142 ✭✭ThePieintheSky


    MadsL wrote: »
    Nail techs

    "Nail Techs"!? - Even better.

    Ah come on now Ted.:D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 30,731 ✭✭✭✭princess-lala


    urabell wrote: »
    Do people actually need training to know not to touch someone with another person's blood?

    You don't necessarily see the blood!!


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