Amiko Alien 2 Triple Tuner Combobox

FlexMcMurphy · 09-10-2013 06:01PM

Hi Folks

I have just started using the autobouquets plug-in and have a question about swapping channels. I have it set up to create Republic of Ireland HD Bouquets. When I open the autobouquets.csv file I notice that two channels are numbered 102... BBC 2 England and RTE 2 HD. In my Free-to-Air Bouquet I have...
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102 140-4seven
103 141-BBC One HD
104 142-BBC Two HD
105 143-BBC2 NI
106 145-Challenge
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BBC 2 England ends up in the Other Bouquet in the Extra Channels section. Does anyone know what changes do I need to make to custom_swap.txt and/or supplement.txt so I can swap BBC2 England with BBC2 NI? I tried but it seems to get confused because two channels are numbered 102.

I'm thinking of somehow using the supplement.txt file to delete the BBC2 England channel and then add it back to another currently unoccupied channel number that's not 102 and then use the swap file to swap it with BBC2 NI... 143=[new channel num for BBC2 England]

Failing that I could just set Autobouquets to create UK only Bouquets and created my own favourites category for the Irish channels from the terrestrial feed? Sorry if I've answered my own question!

Flex

championc · 09-10-2013 07:59PM

Zardoz wrote: »

Do you find the Hyperion image dull on the G20B as its a plasma ?

I am finding a huge difference in HD picture between Spark and Enigma 2 on my 50" Panasonic ST50.
Spark HD is vibrant and looks great but E2 is dull and lacking punch .

I found this online which explains the inferior E2 picture quality.

I am going to sell the Triplex on as the HD picture quality just isnt good enough for my set ,a real pity.

My Panny G20B is an LCD because it's 37"

I just tried comparing BBC1 HD and there wasn't a massive difference. The annoying difference is with the sound levels.

reaper12 · 09-10-2013 08:13PM

Zardoz wrote: »

Do you find the Hyperion image dull on the G20B as its a plasma ?

I am finding a huge difference in HD picture between Spark and Enigma 2 on my 50" Panasonic ST50.
Spark HD is vibrant and looks great but E2 is dull and lacking punch .

I found this online which explains the inferior E2 picture quality.

I am going to sell the Triplex on as the HD picture quality just isnt good enough for my set ,a real pity.

Yeah picture is much better on the spark side of things, I have the the same tv only the 40 inch version. Everything is better on the spark side of things apart from the channel management.

Not sure what you are going to do, according to most forums that I read the spark side of the triplex has better picture quality than most boxes. So you are going to be disappointed no matter what box you go with.

As for me, I am staying on the spark side of things despite it's poor epg and really poor channel organisation. I will keep the box and hope that spark gets better.

reaper12 · 09-10-2013 08:16PM

championc wrote: »

The annoying difference is with the sound levels.

Yeah what gives with that? It's really annoying. For me most channels are too quiet when I am using enigma2 if I am using NAR. If I change to mpeg it's perfect but on some channels there is narration for the visually impaired.

Ghost Train · 09-10-2013 11:40PM

STB wrote: »

Turn the Amiko on after TV. IE leave TV on, turn box off at switch, turn box on and wait. HDCP issue from your description.

Thanks.
I would have done that, spent along time messing about, trying different cables, different hdmi inputs, uploaded firmware two different ways. Could be HDCP, now that I think of it I had problems getting xbox360 to work on this tv with HDMI. But Spark OS works fine and other sat boxes

Have a projector with HDMI input I'll do a test it

Edit: No luck with projector HDMI either. Guess I'll try a different firmware next

Zardoz · 10-10-2013 12:03AM

championc wrote: »

My Panny G20B is an LCD because it's 37"

I just tried comparing BBC1 HD and there wasn't a massive difference. The annoying difference is with the sound levels.

Oh,sorry i thought the G20B was a plasma.
You probably wouldnt notice the difference in picture quality as much so.

I watched Spark for a while earlier and the difference in quality between the HD channels was very noticeable,its almost as if the HD channels on E2 look a lower resolution ,its very noticeable on the movie channels and the HD documentary channels.

Not sure what you are going to do, according to most forums that I read the spark side of the triplex has better picture quality than most boxes. So you are going to be disappointed no matter what box you go with.

Well I can go back to my Dm800 for the time being and perhaps get a Gigablue or Vu+ twin tuner .
My main reason for getting a Triplex was because it meant I could watch one satellite channel and record another .
I can always use the Triplex in a bedroom on a smaller set .

Agueroooo · 10-10-2013 08:11AM

I have a custom bouquet made but a couple of the channels changed frequency last week.

I rescanned on my AA2 and all channels now working but when I load back in my custom bouquet it loads in the old frequency and those same channels don't work again.

Ideas?

bappelbe · 10-10-2013 09:11AM

Agueroooo wrote: »

I have a custom bouquet made but a couple of the channels changed frequency last week.

I rescanned on my AA2 and all channels now working but when I load back in my custom bouquet it loads in the old frequency and those same channels don't work again.

Ideas?

I have used the custom.txt (called custom_swap.txt on championc's hyperion image) to modify the entertainment bouquet when autobouquets was run.
My version needs work as the newer version leaves some duplication and some gaps.

FlexMcMurphy asks a question above which might help (if it is answered)

Zardoz · 10-10-2013 04:18PM

Well I managed to improve the picture dramatically by simply changing the color balance on the tv,a Panasonic St50.
I changed it from Warm to Normal and that brightened up the picture alot and made the colours more vibrant and natural unlike the dull picture before.
Enigma 2 seems to output a very low colour balance ,whites look cream, its much darker than Spark .

The only drawback with the low colour balance is that I cant really use the Tv's optimum setting True Cinema mode as that has a fixed Warm balance.
It looks like you are watching the tv through tinted glasses.

I can however use Cinema mode and that is very good too .
Picture looks very good now, probably better than the Dm800 I previously used so well chuffed.
Hopefully this will be of help to other people with similar sets.

championc · 10-10-2013 04:49PM

Hey Zardoz, can't live with it but can't live without it either

FlexMcMurphy · 10-10-2013 08:35PM

Agueroooo wrote: »

... when I load back in my custom bouquet it loads in the old frequency and those same channels don't work again.

Ideas?

I'm only getting my head around how the Autobouquets plug-in works. There is a forum where you can get the latest version of Autobouquets and the creator of the plugin and others give support though it's not a very active thread.

When you say you have created a 'custom bouquet' what do you mean exactly? Just a bouquet that you put channels into yourself or an Autobouquets generated bouquet that you have customised using loads of swaps in the custom_swap.txt file? If it is the former then the frequencies for those channels won't get updated by running Autobouquets and for those you will have to do a new re-scan on your box of the satellite by yourself. To make it easier you could just re-scan the transponder that those channels are on.

As to my problem mentioned above.. my current workaround is to create Bouquets for "London HD" and then create my own favourites category for the Irish channels that I can receive anyway through the terrestrial tuner.

Flex

Zardoz · 10-10-2013 10:14PM

championc wrote: »

Hey Zardoz, can't live with it but can't live without it either

I take back what I said about the picture quality being poor.
I have been watching tv all evening with the adjusted picture settings and the picture is bloody amazing ,even SD stuff looks good but HD is unreal .
The SH4 chipset really makes stuff look brilliant compared to a MIPS based receiver.

One thing I have noticed about the receiver is that it locks up very badly unless it has a live satellite feed or a tuned channel.
If you switch to a channel with no signal it locks up ,very odd.

Wcool · 11-10-2013 01:31PM

Just a bit of a rant, i need to blow of some steam

For a couple of days now, I have Hyperion 2 but it is a pain.
Obviously I must be doing things wrong as everyone in this forum is extremely enthusiastic about this image.

Good things:
- the media player seems to play more different video formats than spark/ar-p
- better scaling of formats that don't fit into 16-9

Bad things:
- generally a lot less intuitive UI, lot's of menu entries that do the same. Extremely difficult to navigate as well
- crashing more often
- EPG leaves a lot of open spaces in the program guide. I wish there was an option not to show any channels that need decryption
- media player sinks back to black within 2 seconds if no button is pressed?? surely this is a bug?
- white noise if the channel can't be decrypted
- fluctuations in volume level between channels

I am totally convinced it is me that is the problem (PEBKAC). I am quite comfortable with linux but I wonder if I should put a lot of time in investigating how auto bouquets and oscam work and modifying config files directly (as an aside it is hard to find good info in the dozens of satellite forums, too technical, too many to choose from) but the missus is getting anxious.

Did anyone go back to the Spark image and just leave it with that or should I put another week into it?

bappelbe · 11-10-2013 02:11PM

Wcool wrote: »

- generally a lot less intuitive UI, lot's of menu entries that do the same. Extremely difficult to navigate as well
- crashing more often
- EPG leaves a lot of open spaces in the program guide. I wish there was an option not to show any channels that need decryption
- media player sinks back to black within 2 seconds if no button is pressed?? surely this is a bug?
- white noise if the channel can't be decrypted
- fluctuations in volume level between channels

I am totally convinced it is me that is the problem (PEBKAC). I am quite comfortable with linux but I wonder if I should put a lot of time in investigating how auto bouquets and oscam work and modifying config files directly (as an aside it is hard to find good info in the dozens of satellite forums, too technical, too many to choose from) but the missus is getting anxious.

Did anyone go back to the Spark image and just leave it with that or should I put another week into it?

What aspect of the UI is different from AR-P? other than the blue button interface.

I have not had many crashes (I have had a few)

The option in autobouquets for FTA only is not great, you need a custom_swap.txt file to remove the gaps and get a good list of channels. For some reason my custom.txt worked much button in AR-P, I am looking into seeing what I can do about it - if you find solutions, post here as there are a few of us working on this.

There are fluctuations in channel volume, particularly when you choose the option without audio description.

if you are only looking for channels that don't need decryption you don't need oscam.

There are some who are using spark successfully but the epg is not as good.

Did you get AR-P running successfully? the differences in setup are small between the images.

reaper12 · 11-10-2013 02:27PM

Wcool wrote: »

Just a bit of a rant, i need to blow of some steam

For a couple of days now, I have Hyperion 2 but it is a pain.
Obviously I must be doing things wrong as everyone in this forum is extremely enthusiastic about this image.

Good things:
- the media player seems to play more different video formats than spark/ar-p
- better scaling of formats that don't fit into 16-9

Bad things:
- generally a lot less intuitive UI, lot's of menu entries that do the same. Extremely difficult to navigate as well
- crashing more often
- EPG leaves a lot of open spaces in the program guide. I wish there was an option not to show any channels that need decryption
- media player sinks back to black within 2 seconds if no button is pressed?? surely this is a bug?
- white noise if the channel can't be decrypted
- fluctuations in volume level between channels

I am totally convinced it is me that is the problem (PEBKAC). I am quite comfortable with linux but I wonder if I should put a lot of time in investigating how auto bouquets and oscam work and modifying config files directly (as an aside it is hard to find good info in the dozens of satellite forums, too technical, too many to choose from) but the missus is getting anxious.

Did anyone go back to the Spark image and just leave it with that or should I put another week into it?

I don't know what problems you are having with the UI, I found it to be basically the same between all images. And I also do know anything about the media player side of things either.

But, like you, I wasn't happy at all with the hyperion image. So I went back to spark last weekend. During the week I had some free time so I re-installed yellowking's open pli image with no judder.

Well, I sugggest you try out that image. It works for me way better than any other one.

Wcool · 11-10-2013 03:23PM

Yes AR-P worked immediately with only one re-scan of the saorview channels.
I can't actually find these Soarview channels in FAV btw.

I probably have the wrong skin selected on Hyperion. AR-P did not have a meda player menu as I recall, just configure your Samba and press on Play on the file that you want to play. The Hyperion player is first builds a playlist and OK and Play button don't do what you would expect.

Probably just unlucky and maybe I was used to the a AR-P by now. But you more or less confirmed i have to edit custom.txt

bappelbe · 11-10-2013 04:10PM

Wcool wrote: »

Yes AR-P worked immediately with only one re-scan of the saorview channels.
I can't actually find these Soarview channels in FAV btw.

I probably have the wrong skin selected on Hyperion.

If I understand you correctly you need to edit the bouquet, do this by pressing "OK" and then "Menu" then select move mode (I am not in front of the box now).

To get a saorview bouquet, select providers, then highlight RTENL, press menu and add to bouquet. Then move mode as you see fit.

I have only used the skin than championc installed, so others might be of help there, but there shouldn't be any difference in the user options, just how it looks- (and sometimes performance)

championc · 11-10-2013 07:40PM

Hey Wcool.

The one bit which annoyed me too was with Autobouquets. I have now selected London HD and I told it NOT to make a separate HD list (can't remember the exact wording right now).

The list is far more sensible with no gaps now.

I just created my SD Streaming group and have RTE's in there.

I just wish that AR-P was updated because I am 99% sure that you cannot record two terrestrial programs simultaneously. They keep showing as 0mb and I think this is why. I have programmes starting recording early and finishing late so when Eastenders and Fair City are back to back, I kept losing brownie points !!

Fresh Pots · 11-10-2013 07:54PM

championc wrote: »

I just wish that AR-P was updated because I am 99% sure that you cannot record two terrestrial programs simultaneously. They keep showing as 0mb and I think this is why. I have programmes starting recording early and finishing late so when Eastenders and Fair City are back to back, I kept losing brownie points !!

That happens on my box too but it's not just terrestrial recordings, satellite channels are also affected.

basill · 12-10-2013 04:42PM

Just finished installing the hyperion image of championpc onto a new box. Seems fine apart from no soarview channels are showing. If I select say RTE 2 it shows a blank screen. Hitting INFO on the remote shows it as a DVB-S channel whereas I thought it was DVB-T? When I change the Provider to RTENL I get them okay and they are showing up as DVB-T using the INFO button.

Both soarview and the uk ones were showing up fine together on the Spark epg.

Any ideas?

smee again · 12-10-2013 04:49PM

basill wrote: »

Just finished installing the hyperion image of championpc onto a new box. Seems fine apart from no soarview channels are showing. If I select say RTE 2 it shows a blank screen. Hitting INFO on the remote shows it as a DVB-S channel whereas I thought it was DVB-T? When I change the Provider to RTENL I get them okay and they are showing up as DVB-T using the INFO button.

Both soarview and the uk ones were showing up fine together on the Spark epg.

Any ideas?

Did you do a terrestrial scan with clear before scan enabled? The frequencies used will be different in your area if your aerial is pointing to a different mast.

basill · 12-10-2013 04:52PM

Not at all. How do I do one of those. Literally I just plugged in the USB stick and followed the instructions for loading enigma2.

smee again · 12-10-2013 05:21PM

basill wrote: »

Not at all. How do I do one of those. Literally I just plugged in the USB stick and followed the instructions for loading enigma2.

Sorry, not at box, it'll be under service searching, I think tuner A is the terrestrial, will say DVB-T

basill · 12-10-2013 05:31PM

Managed to find that. Only problem is I get a green screen of death saying software problem. Then the box reboots to the Hyperion 2 splash screen and boots up as normal but without the soarview channels being scanned.

witnessmenow · 12-10-2013 06:25PM

Hey guys, I'm just trying to set up crossepg at the moment. I have configured via menu to use "Storage Device". I have forced a download and forced a reload. I also restarted the box. Channels epg doesn't show up unless I navigate to them. Any ideas?

championc · 12-10-2013 06:29PM

Hi basill

You are looking at the bouquets created by autobouquets. So these are the RTE's from Sky.

Look at the SD streaming group at the very bottom which is a manually created group, which is the only way to join both

smee again · 12-10-2013 07:08PM

witnessmenow wrote: »

Hey guys, I'm just trying to set up crossepg at the moment. I have configured via menu to use "Storage Device". I have forced a download and forced a reload. I also restarted the box. Channels epg doesn't show up unless I navigate to them. Any ideas?

You have the OpenTV provider 28.2 enabled. If you have go to Info about Database and make sure it's creating the db

basill · 12-10-2013 07:46PM

I am probably missing something fundamental about how the autobouquets works and will try and read up over the weekend but in the meantime:-

- I found the SD streaming which has the soarview channels in it. Thing is RTE2 is showing as a DVB-S channel and I get a black screen
- How do I get one epg with the HD version of RTE2 alongside the HD BBCs like I had in Spark?

DeadSkin · 12-10-2013 07:52PM

basill wrote: »

I am probably missing something fundamental about how the autobouquets works and will try and read up over the weekend but in the meantime:-

- I found the SD streaming which has the soarview channels in it. Thing is RTE2 is showing as a DVB-S channel and I get a black screen
- How do I get one epg with the HD version of RTE2 alongside the HD BBCs like I had in Spark?

Easiest option I found was to download dreamboxedit and add the channels you want to the favourites folder.

championc · 12-10-2013 08:21PM

basill wrote: »

I am probably missing something fundamental about how the autobouquets works and will try and read up over the weekend

Autobouquets is a plugin which re-creates the Sky Groups on an Enigma2 based receiver.

You would need a Sky Card in order to be able to see the DVB-S RTE channels

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