spot the pit bull

crazygeryy · 03-10-2013 04:01PM

Who cares they are all ugly,horrible looking dogs

Vinz Mesrine · 03-10-2013 04:02PM

crazygeryy wrote: »

Who cares they are all ugly,horrible looking dogs

Wow!! I take it you've never been around a staff or similar dog. The most loveable dog you could possibly own.

crazygeryy · 03-10-2013 04:04PM

Vinz Mesrine wrote: »

Wow!! I take it you've never been around a staff or similar dog. The most loveable dog you could possibly own.

I dont like that type of dog.it's as simple as that.

josip · 03-10-2013 04:07PM

Could the pit bull and staff owners here please restrain themselves and stop going at each other's throats?

Ray Palmer · 03-10-2013 04:09PM

Does it make much difference they are classed as a dangerous breed either way here. That means never being off the lead in public, always have a mussel on outside the owners home and never left in charge by anybody under 16.

I thought it was illegal to breed either types of dog in Ireland or crosses of.

Anybody claiming they are responsible pet owners with these breeds that does not follow the law is not a responsible pet owner.

These are massively powerful dogs that should not be kept as pets.

Vinz Mesrine · 03-10-2013 04:11PM

sok2005 wrote: »

Sorry to go slightly off track but what is the name of the white dogs with pinky looking eyes, stocky too and strong but not tall?

English bull terrier

DamagedTrax · 03-10-2013 04:13PM

Does it make much difference they are classed as a dangerous breed either way here. That means never being off the lead in public, always have a mussel on outside the owners home and never left in charge by anybody under 16.

no dangerous dogs in ireland. doesnt say it in law anywhere. they are 'restricted breeds'

I thought it was illegal to breed either types of dog in Ireland or crosses of.

no, why would it be?

Anybody claiming they are responsible pet owners with these breeds that does not follow the law is not a responsible pet owner.

nobody claims otherwise. they are powerful and shouldnt be let run loose. they need supervision and experienced owners and it sickens any good owner to see scumbags letting them run about the place.

These are massively powerful dogs that should not be kept as pets.

what should they be kept as then? ornaments? modes of transport?

dharma200 · 03-10-2013 04:14PM

Ray Palmer wrote: »

Does it make much difference they are classed as a dangerous breed either way here. That means never being off the lead in public, always have a mussel on outside the owners home and never left in charge by anybody under 16.

I thought it was illegal to breed either types of dog in Ireland or crosses of.

Anybody claiming they are responsible pet owners with these breeds that does not follow the law is not a responsible pet owner.

These are massively powerful dogs that should not be kept as pets.

Really really badly thought out post

Vinz Mesrine · 03-10-2013 04:15PM

Ray Palmer wrote: »

Does it make much difference they are classed as a dangerous breed either way here. That means never being off the lead in public, always have a mussel on outside the owners home and never left in charge by anybody under 16.

I thought it was illegal to breed either types of dog in Ireland or crosses of.

Anybody claiming they are responsible pet owners with these breeds that does not follow the law is not a responsible pet owner.

These are massively powerful dogs that should not be kept as pets.

I have a staff, my 4yr old daughter regular walks her. I often let her off the lead when we're in an open space on our own. Since I got her from the pound nearly 2 years ago I have never put a muzzle anywhere near her face and never will.

They are the perfect pet, especially for people with children. My OH is pregnant and I can't wait for our new baby to be around the dog because unlike JRTs and the like they will put up with and enjoy "wrestling" with kids.

You, I'm afraid, are completely clueless.

Dyr · 03-10-2013 04:17PM

DamagedTrax wrote: »

2 of the 3 big registries in amercia RECOGNISE the APBT.
1 doesnt but accepts them under a different name (amstaff)

if you cant understand that then step away from your keyboard and have a cup of tea. its not complicated at all.

Maybe you wouldn't have found yourself contradicting yourself if you'd clarified your first post a bit like this:

"According to the breed standard set by the UKC/IDBA/Judean Pitbulls Front/My mate Rasher (delete where applicable) which of these dogs is an American pitbull terrier? (Disregarding the breed standards etc of the American Kennel Club etc)"

Of course that would have made your thread look daft and pointless. Hmmm.....

josip · 03-10-2013 04:20PM

Vinz Mesrine wrote: »

They are the perfect pet, especially for people with children. My OH is pregnant and I can't wait for our new baby to be around the dog because unlike JRTs and the like they will put up with and enjoy "wrestling" with kids.

Somebody forgot to tell that to this family's staff.

DamagedTrax · 03-10-2013 04:21PM

Bambi wrote: »

Maybe you wouldn't have found yourself contradicting yourself if you'd clarified your first post a bit like this:

"According to the breed standard set by the UKC/IDBA/Judean Pitbulls Front/My mate Rasher (delete where applicable) which of these dogs is an American pitbull terrier? (Disregarding the breed standards etc of the American Kennel Club etc)"

Of course that would have made your thread look daft and pointless. Hmmm.....

oh sorry, i didnt realise your eyesight was impaired.

heres a quote from my original post

Only 1 of these dogs is a 'pit bull' (american pit bull terrier). which is it?

Given that ive already stated the intent of the thread was to try and show the stupidity of the 'pit bull' label, does that make your day any easier?

Ray Palmer · 03-10-2013 04:21PM

DamagedTrax wrote: »

no dangerous dogs in ireland. doesnt say it in law anywhere. they are 'restricted breeds'

no, why would it be?

nobody claims otherwise. they are powerful and shouldnt be let run loose. they need supervision and experienced owners and it sickens any good owner to see scumbags letting them run about with no leads on them.

what should they be kept as then? ornaments? modes of transport?

Sure semantics really proves your point.:rolleyes: As a "restricted breed" I thought they said they were no longer allowed be bred here.

The majority of these dogs I have seen are not muzzled, in fact I only ever recall seeing one muzzled.

They simply shouldn't be kept as pets. They can be working dogs if there is a need for them.

My personal experience is one of them trying to kill my dog as we were walking in the park. 2 of them off the lead no muzzle in a public park.

Vinz Mesrine · 03-10-2013 04:22PM

I won't waste my time linking to stories involving supposedly family friendly dogs that have attacked their owners, especially not the one where a JRT bit a newborn baby and crushed it's skull, nope, I won't do that.

DamagedTrax · 03-10-2013 04:26PM

Sure semantics really proves your point.:rolleyes: As a "restricted breed" I thought they said they were no longer allowed be bred here.

you said they were 'classed' as dangerous. they are not. they are classed as 'restricted' and it is perfectly legal to breed them.

The majority of these dogs I have seen are not muzzled, in fact I only ever recall seeing one muzzled.

thats down to each idividual owner if they choose to break a law, not the dogs choice. some staffie owners dont bother cause they dont need to (i rarely meet a dog aggressive staffy ion lead). some pitbull owners would because they know their dogs are iffy around other dogs.

They simply shouldn't be kept as pets. They can be working dogs if there is a need for them.

the 'work' they were bred for is horrible and illegal. a lot of us 'work' them in different ways. my girl weightpulls and does athletics. it doesnt make her any less of a pet though.

My personal experience is one of them trying to kill my dog as we were walking in the park. 2 of them off the lead no muzzle in a public park.

thats unfortunate that the owner hadnt kept a dog aggressive dog under control. that makes for bad ownership, not a bad breed.

dharma200 · 03-10-2013 04:26PM

That's it, use one personal experience to provide a blanket ideal for you on all dogs of one breed.... Lol... I was bitten by a little terrier when I was young, all terriers should die.

Restricted breeds are ofcourse allowed to breed.

Working dogs? Shouldn't your own dog be at work then so, instead of hanging around parks... Lol

Ways the breed and purpose of your own dog... D you even know the dogs on the restricted breed list... Have you any clue as to the breed of dog that attacked yours... You do realise pretty much all breeds of dogs can display dog to dog aggresion

You are 'simply' making sweeping comments because of your own little experience. Same as most people who have a ridiculous opinion on any specific breed of animal.

All pitbull threads usually end up with this type of banal mer. Drives me nuts, but alas, I shall be stopping everyone who has a jack russel telling them to get their dog a job.

03-10-2013 04:27PM

Slightly off topic but made may laugh this morning, there is an Ad on of the sky channels for a donkey rescue charity and if you subscribe the will send you a photo of your donkey, normal enough although who would want a photo of a donkeys head, BUT you can also add the donkey as a friend on face book!! and the donkey will up date you about its life can you imagine anyone adding a donkey as friend on face book and what up dates would you receive " this is me eating a bale hay with my friend Neddy".

I was bitten by a dog as kid, but while it made me a bit weary of some dogs I always had dogs as pets their intelligence and loyalty would amaze you.

Ray Palmer · 03-10-2013 04:28PM

Vinz Mesrine wrote: »

I have a staff, my 4yr old daughter regular walks her. I often let her off the lead when we're in an open space on our own. Since I got her from the pound nearly 2 years ago I have never put a muzzle anywhere near her face and never will.

They are the perfect pet, especially for people with children. My OH is pregnant and I can't wait for our new baby to be around the dog because unlike JRTs and the like they will put up with and enjoy "wrestling" with kids.

You, I'm afraid, are completely clueless.

So you are not a responsible pet owner and put your child and other children in danger regardless of the law.

As for who is clueless that would be you as you ignore the laws brought in specifically because people don't do the right thing.

The most likely dog to bite a person is actually a dachshund but as they are not that strong they are very unlikely to do damage. There are still reports of them killing people. I used to breed them and also grew up with greyhounds that were raced. I know a fair few things about dogs

dharma200 · 03-10-2013 04:30PM

You obviously know nothing about the restricted breeds in Ireland... Or about dogs in general. Going by your posts mate

dharma200 · 03-10-2013 04:31PM

That's right, breed a dog who is most likely to bite... Nice one for that lol you definately thought that through didn't you.

shamrock55 · 03-10-2013 04:32PM

Pic no 3

DamagedTrax · 03-10-2013 04:34PM

shamrock55 wrote: »

Pic no 3

already said it was number 1. 2 & 3 are staffies.

the answer got lost in the sh1t storm of ignorance.

andreac · 03-10-2013 04:35PM

Ray Palmer wrote: »

I know a fair few things about dogs

Wouldnt be so sure about that going by your posts on this thread about your information on dogs...:rolleyes:

daRobot · 03-10-2013 04:38PM

Simples. Third dog.

I can't believe people think the first dog is a pit. Just shows you really.

Not going to get involved in this whole restricted breed conversation again, no point arguing with the pathetically uninformed.

All dogs are fine. All of them. How they're raised is what ultimately matters.

Ray Palmer · 03-10-2013 04:39PM

DamagedTrax wrote: »

you said they were 'classed' as dangerous. they are not. they are classed as 'restricted' and it is perfectly legal to breed them.

thats down to each idividual owner if they choose to break a law, not the dogs choice. some staffie owners dont bother cause they dont need to (i rarely meet a dog aggressive staffy ion lead). some pitbull owners would because they know their dogs are iffy around other dogs.

the 'work' they were bred for is horrible and illegal. a lot of us 'work' them in different ways. my girl weightpulls and does athletics. it doesnt make her any less of a pet though.

thats unfortunate that the owner hadnt kept a dog aggressive dog under control. that makes for bad ownership, not a bad breed.

It is still semantics but if you want I am sooooooo sorry for mixing up the term. The Restriction was brought in for dogs deemed dangerous warranting being restricted.

When I said I "thought" they were not allowed to be bred I didn't say it was certain.

So the law has restricted them and most owners ignore the law. Then they aren't being responsible owners and should have the dogs removed from them.

The point is there is no need for the breed to be kept as a pet or a working dog. Then the breed doesn't have much purpose and given the proven danger it makes perfect sense to just ban them out right .

The breed is too difficult to control without proper training. If people insist on owning them I think a special licence and controls should be put in place. The amount of idiots the dogs attract as owners is the problem so restrict ownership.

All the stories of them attacking people have the owner saying they never thought the dog would do this.

DamagedTrax · 03-10-2013 04:40PM

daRobot wrote: »

Simples. Third dog.

I can't believe people think the first dog is a pit. Just shows you really.

Not going to get involved in this whole restricted breed conversation again, no point arguing with the pathetically uninformed.

All dogs are fine. All of them. How they're raised is what ultimately matters.

first dog is an american pit bull terrier down from generations of famous dogs. sorry!

(2nd and 3rd are staffies (2nd one my own, 3rd one a friend's in holland with full pedigree))

Vinz Mesrine · 03-10-2013 04:40PM

Ray Palmer wrote: »

So you are not a responsible pet owner and put your child and other children in danger regardless of the law.

As for who is clueless that would be you as you ignore the laws brought in specifically because people don't do the right thing.

The most likely dog to bite a person is actually a dachshund but as they are not that strong they are very unlikely to do damage. There are still reports of them killing people. I used to breed them and also grew up with greyhounds that were raced. I know a fair few things about dogs

I am not putting mine or any other child in danger because I have trained my dog to listen to me and respect me when I call her back. She is not a risk to anyone.

Ray Palmer · 03-10-2013 04:40PM

andreac wrote: »

Wouldnt be so sure about that going by your posts on this thread about your information on dogs...:rolleyes:

Hilarious. What do you think I have said that is incorrect about dogs?

Ray Palmer · 03-10-2013 04:41PM

Vinz Mesrine wrote: »

I am not putting mine or any other child in danger because I have trained my dog to listen to me and respect me when I call her back. She is not a risk to anyone.

The law says otherwise

DamagedTrax · 03-10-2013 04:42PM

Ray Palmer wrote: »

If people insist on owning them I think a special licence and controls should be put in place.

this is the only thing you'll say that i agree with. i'd love it, it would stop every knacker on the street destroying a beautiful and loving breed's reputation.

spot the pit bull

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