Dosing Gun + Hook

Hay_man · 29-08-2012 10:30PM #1

How do these work?
http://www.agridirect.ie/index.php/animal-dosing/dosing-drencher-c-w-hooked-nozzle.html

by work I mean refilling them??
surly you don't have to keep screwing the pipe on and off every time to refill

I have never used a dosing hook before are they are good for dosing suckler cows or weanlings or wild cattle in general?

29-08-2012 10:38PM

Hay_man wrote: »

How do these work?
http://www.agridirect.ie/index.php/animal-dosing/dosing-drencher-c-w-hooked-nozzle.html

by work I mean refilling them??
surly you don't have to keep screwing the pipe on and off every time to refill

I have never used a dosing hook before are they are good for dosing suckler cows or weanlings or wild cattle in general?

this tool brings fun to dosing , u put the dosing drum on ur back and connect it to the gun and then u put the pipe to the hook , hold the hook in one hand catch the animal with hook in animals mouth squeze the gun with the other hand
and ur done on to next animal , its very easy on the operetor no pulling or dragging by the animal. some times dose suppliers supply a hook gun free of charge when u buy a lot of dosing with them

30-08-2012 11:18AM

They are great.
Just. Try and not use a thick dosing fluid as it can be tough to pump

mallethead · 30-08-2012 11:33AM

Grat for dosing cows and especially the bull

fastrac · 30-08-2012 11:41AM

I warm up the dose a bit to make it easier to pump. The bigger 100ml+ doses can be tricky when you have to go again to get it in to them .I will never again dose without the hook

freedominacup · 30-08-2012 11:45AM

fastrac wrote: »

I warm up the dose a bit to make it easier to pump. The bigger 100ml+ doses can be tricky when you have to go again to get it in to them .I will never again dose without the hook

The uncle got a "loan" of ours a couple of years ago he was nearly lynched when it wasn't returned. You'll meet the odd animal whose had a bit of self defence training somewhere and they can make it a bit difficult but compared to the old drenchers not really difficult at all.

Black Smoke · 30-08-2012 12:34PM

I would have thought a combination of, the animal putting it's head down towards the ground, and most probably inside the animal in front of it, plus the chance of getting the hook under the tounge, as opposed to on top, plus the animal swing the head and generall being uncooperative, would render this contraption, just a hit and miss operation.
I dosed all my animals a few weeks ago, young and old, with a standard dosing gun. Was surprised how easy the job went, considering how long since I last used a dosing gun.

30-08-2012 01:25PM

Black Smoke wrote: »

I would have thought a combination of, the animal putting it's head down towards the ground, and most probably inside the animal in front of it, plus the chance of getting the hook under the tounge, as opposed to on top, plus the animal swing the head and generall being uncooperative, would render this contraption, just a hit and miss operation.
I dosed all my animals a few weeks ago, young and old, with a standard dosing gun. Was surprised how easy the job went, considering how long since I last used a dosing gun.

You will be an instant convert when you buy one!!!

You start at the back of the race so they do not see you coming. As always pack them in tight so they can not jump around. Heads down will always be a prob with an oral dose no matter what the tool used.

20silkcut · 31-08-2012 12:16AM

Heads down is a right pain in the nuts. I just gave up the last time after 4 of them in a row were at it. Nothing feels as dangerous as putting your arm and sometimes your head in through the lower bars trying to catch them. I just got a pour on instead.

I don't have a fancy dosing gun just the free plastic syringe I got off the vet.
Sneaking up on them is not possible when your refilling every time.

moy83 · 27-09-2013 01:11PM

Lads are these hooks strong enoungh to pull up a cows head before you squirt it in ? Is there any particular make better than the rest and where is a good place for buying them online ? Thanks

PN14 · 27-09-2013 02:25PM

Get one you wont regret it. We got one a few years ago and wouldn't be without it now not that any of our yokes would be two wild but its an ease when dosing year and halfs and the cows. The ones with the head down are always an issue. There is a knack to using it come at them from back of crush lift top lip with top of hook and push in then. Handy once you get going. Plenty of crowds on line selling them don't know what make ours is but its 70ml one. Get a least this size or larger if possible. Lots of drenches have larger dose rate than 70ml. There is a smaller one and you'd be dosing three times. Ours cost around 70 euro delivered I think a few years ago, (that might have included some proper injection syringes and spare needles which I ordered the same time).

moy83 · 27-09-2013 02:34PM

PN14 wrote: »

Get one you wont regret it. We got one a few years ago and wouldn't be without it now not that any of our yokes would be two wild but its an ease when dosing year and halfs and the cows. The ones with the head down are always an issue. There is a knack to using it come at them from back of crush lift top lip with top of hook and push in then. Handy once you get going. Plenty of crowds on line selling them don't know what make ours is but its 70ml one. Get a least this size or larger if possible. Lots of drenches have larger dose rate than 70ml. There is a smaller one and you'd be dosing three times. Ours cost around 70 euro delivered I think a few years ago, (that might have included some proper injection syringes and spare needles which I ordered the same time).

Thanks PN what make is yours and is it fairly strong ? I dont want to get a flimsy one

PN14 · 27-09-2013 03:02PM

Moy,

I think its a "prima tech" one couldn't swear by that but that's whats in head its a blue and grey gun. The one I had has a floating hook and you can dose with a normal nosel on it as well, handy for smaller calves as its as easy manhandle them as get the hook into their smaller mouths. Our one seems decent and you'd be able to get the hook in to there mouths and pull their heads up without breaking it. I've no idea how it compares to other guns hooks though as I've never compared them. As lads have said heavy thick drench can take a bit of driving through the gun though.

TUBBY · 27-09-2013 03:08PM

moy83 wrote: »

Lads are these hooks strong enoungh to pull up a cows head before you squirt it in ? Is there any particular make better than the rest and where is a good place for buying them online ? Thanks

The only thing is that you could tear the roof of her mouth a bit if you catch them the wrong way and pull up the head with brute force.

lakill Farm · 27-09-2013 03:10PM

20silkcut wrote: »

Heads down is a right pain in the nuts. I just gave up the last time after 4 of them in a row were at it. Nothing feels as dangerous as putting your arm and sometimes your head in through the lower bars trying to catch them. I just got a pour on instead.

I don't have a fancy dosing gun just the free plastic syringe I got off the vet.
Sneaking up on them is not possible when your refilling every time.

like that but charelle gave a free one when we bought 7.5 litres. took 10 minutes to dose 30 strong animals and no skint knuckles off the wall.

need to get one now without the hook for the calves. I see a
shorted type noozle that screws onto the gun .

moy83 · 27-09-2013 03:13PM

TUBBY wrote: »

The only thing is that you could tear the roof of her mouth a bit if you catch them the wrong way and pull up the head with brute force.

I wouldnt want to do that alright

freedominacup · 27-09-2013 03:35PM

lakill Farm wrote: »

like that but charelle gave a free one when we bought 7.5 litres. took 10 minutes to dose 30 strong animals and no skint knuckles off the wall.

need to get one now without the hook for the calves. I see a
shorted type noozle that screws onto the gun .

No you don't at all. Hook is perfect for calves. There hasn't been a calf dosed here for more than 20 years that wasn't done with a hook drencher.

lakill Farm · 27-09-2013 03:40PM

freedominacup wrote: »

No you don't at all. Hook is perfect for calves. There hasn't been a calf dosed here for more than 20 years that wasn't done with a hook drencher.

I find it wasn't working for me. The distance from the gun to the hook and then trying to hold the calf and operate wasn't working. I don't have 3 hands

A drenching gun would be the job, Single hand on calf, single hand on gun.

freedominacup · 27-09-2013 03:44PM

lakill Farm wrote: »

I find it wasn't working for me. The distance from the gun to the hook and then trying to hold the calf and operate wasn't working. I don't have 3 hands

A drenching gun would be the job, Single hand on calf, single hand on gun.

One hand on hook and one hand on gun, why do you ned to use your hand on the calves?

lakill Farm · 27-09-2013 03:48PM

freedominacup wrote: »

One hand on hook and one hand on gun, why do you ned to use your hand on the calves?

because I wount be doing them down the crush. all suck calves so normally do them in the cattle trailer when moving them or in the calf shed.

freedominacup · 27-09-2013 03:50PM

lakill Farm wrote: »

because I wount be doing them down the crush. all suck calves so normally do them in the cattle trailer when moving them or in the calf shed.

Fair enough. Would a pour on ivermectin not be more useful to you esp in a dry year like this when the fluke challenege is low?

lakill Farm · 27-09-2013 05:23PM

freedominacup wrote: »

Fair enough. Would a pour on ivermectin not be more useful to you esp in a dry year like this when the fluke challenege is low?

could be, but I use pour on when there yearlings in the shed. As calves I like to make sure there are getting it.

freedominacup · 27-09-2013 07:07PM

lakill Farm wrote: »

could be, but I use pour on when there yearlings in the shed. As calves I like to make sure there are getting it.

We use the ivermectin mainly outdoors. If the weather is fluky we'll give an anthelmintic(?spelling) from time to time at fluke rate but the pour-ons are handy and effective otherwise.

mikeoh · 27-09-2013 09:14PM

Got mine off connaght agri saw add in journal , it's very strong but cows getting wise to it used it last month and they all turned their heads back and towards the wall making it next to impossible without someone there to tap their head forward....would highly recommend one mine has fitting to use it as a normal gun aswell

agriman27 · 27-09-2013 09:28PM

I find that when using the hook I tend to use more dosing stuff, don't know if anyone else finds the bottle doesn't last as long. I always find I am inclined to give them an extra skite just incase:pac:

27-09-2013 09:58PM

agriman27 wrote: »

I find that when using the hook I tend to use more dosing stuff, don't know if anyone else finds the bottle doesn't last as long. I always find I am inclined to give them an extra skite just incase:pac:

With oral being so much cheaper than injectables or pour ons a bit extra used/spilt is pretty small

whelan1 · 28-09-2013 11:47AM

going to get one of these and the head scoop, dosing will be a luxury now:D

28-09-2013 02:29PM

whelan1 wrote: »

going to get one of these and the head scoop, dosing will be a luxury now:D

hardly need a head scoop if you have a hook doser!

only other reason a head scoop would be handy is if administering boluses.

whelan1 · 28-09-2013 03:15PM

49801 wrote: »

hardly need a head scoop if you have a hook doser!

only other reason a head scoop would be handy is if administering boluses.

thanks will buy the hook doser first and see how it goes

Midlandsman80 · 29-09-2013 10:58PM

anyone used that masterject thing I see on donedeal all the time?

reilig · 30-09-2013 09:08AM

lakill Farm wrote: »

like that but charelle gave a free one when we bought 7.5 litres. took 10 minutes to dose 30 strong animals and no skint knuckles off the wall.

Is that Charelle or Chanelle?

Dosing Gun + Hook

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