Forging a mass card. Have I crossed the line?

mikom · 28-09-2013 03:36AM

3rdDegree wrote: »

Summary: I forged a fictional priest's signature on a mass card

"Second best priest".

ardle1 · 28-09-2013 04:40AM

3rdDegree wrote: »

So, I was going to a funeral today and the wife said I should bring a mass card. I said, "Do people still actually believe in all that crap?". But she then discovered that although she had a mass card, it wasn't signed by a priest. I said, no bother, and proceeded to use my left hand to write something like "Fr. Tom Kennedy" into the priest's signature bit (didn't want it to look like my own handwriting).

My wife was absolutely horrified!

Now, she no more believes in God and the Amazing Adventures of Jesus, than I do. I mean she knows as well as I even if a priest said a mass for someone, it makes no difference to anything. And anyway, who's to say a priest wouldn't just sign it, take the money and never think of that poor dead person again, let a alone actually say a mass for them!

So I forged the name took the card to the funeral, left it in the basket beside the condolence book and no one is the wiser. My wife thinks what I did was terrible and isn't really talking to me, so I offered to drop a fiver into the poor box next time I'm passing the church (it wasn't the money issue for me, just that there is never a priest around when you want one), but she is still not happy. She just thinks I have deceived the folks I gave the card to and that it is terrible that there will never be a mass said for the dead guy. And no matter how many times I remind her that she doesn't believe on any of that stuff, she said that isn't the point.

I just don't get it. Have I really crossed the line here?

Edit: That's a bit long!
Summary: I forged a fictional priest's signature on a mass card and my wife thinks I'm evil. Is she right?

The more I think of it,the funnier it seems, when you said you forged a Mass Card, I thought you some how altered a Birthday card to look like a mass card. Now that would be funny:D In fact the more and more I think off it, your Missus is just getting mad because every time she thinks about it she laughs inside,and she's feeling really guilty lol

Sunglasses Ron · 28-09-2013 04:44AM

3rdDegree wrote: »

Summary: I forged a fictional priest's signature on a mass card and my wife thinks I'm evil. Is she right?

It wasn't Fr Michael O'Flatley at least

Vicxas · 28-09-2013 04:47AM

I don't see a problem.

Unless the family corner you and scream that this isn't a genuine 'FR Kennedy' card.

ardle1 · 28-09-2013 04:49AM

lkionm wrote: »

I'd say **** over a photo of Jesus to show him how much you really love him.

That should bring you back over the line.

W T F

Caonima · 28-09-2013 04:56AM

Mass cards...

:rolleyes:

Redhenrun · 28-09-2013 06:17AM

I am assuming, when you signed the card, you signed on behalf of your wife also? In which case she is probably also as mad as all hell for having her name drawn in to your deceit.

Because,at the heart of the matter, regardless of any of our beliefs, lies deceit.

You set out to deceive the family of the deceased person.

In this case google is not your friend, for, should the family already know you, they might suspect that this is exactly the kind of stunt you might pull and wonder who Fr Tom is and why on earth you`d be up in his neck of the woods.

If you don`t believe in Mass cards, don`t send one. They are not required for attendance at Catholic funerals.

up for anything · 28-09-2013 07:58AM

In my opinion Martin Luther should have written his 95 Theses on a mass card and nailed that to the church door.

However, mass cards give comfort to some bereaved and are a way for the someone offering their condolences to show their genuine sympathy. I can understand on two levels why your wife is angry with you.

Firstly, you made a mockery of the whole thing - regardless of whether it deserves it or not.

Secondly, as someone mentioned is the deceit. For some people there is a line they would not like their partner to cross and when they cross that line it shows them in a new light and usually not a flattering one. Also, if you can cheat on something that means something to her and nothing to you, there may be other things that you will cheat on. For her it may have less to do with the religious and more to do with the moral aspect.

28-09-2013 08:05AM

I'm a Liverpool fan and my cousin used to send me mass cards when Everton beat them.

There was no priest signature though, just a load of haha's

kfk · 28-09-2013 08:31AM

lkionm wrote: »

I'd say **** over a photo of Jesus to show him how much you really love him.

That should bring you back over the line.

Is that what you do to show your love for someone? Photos of your brothers and sisters must be wrecked! I hope you dont have children!

caustic 1 · 28-09-2013 08:38AM

I'm sure your card was not the only mass card given, therefore there will be mass said for him anyhow, Unless they are all forged. :eek:

Slutmonkey57b · 28-09-2013 09:00AM

If the wife was so keen on mass cards, why didn't she get one and go to the funeral?

Nagging lazy bitch.

Kidchameleon · 28-09-2013 09:08AM

OP forget about the card, if your so against the whole Catholic thing, why did you go to the funeral?

Meangadh · 28-09-2013 09:15AM

I dunno why you or your wife felt you had to give a card in the first place. And even if you did, why you didn't just give a sympathy card, all card shops have them.

I never give cards to people unless I couldn't go to the funeral for whatever reason. I find it odd though that some people here are saying they never heard of mass cards.

Splendour · 28-09-2013 09:17AM

3rdDegree wrote: »

So, I was going to a funeral today and the wife said I should bring a mass card. I said, "Do people still actually believe in all that crap?". But she then discovered that although she had a mass card, it wasn't signed by a priest. I said, no bother, and proceeded to use my left hand to write something like "Fr. Tom Kennedy" into the priest's signature bit (didn't want it to look like my own handwriting).

My wife was absolutely horrified!

Now, she no more believes in God and the Amazing Adventures of Jesus, than I do. I mean she knows as well as I even if a priest said a mass for someone, it makes no difference to anything. And anyway, who's to say a priest wouldn't just sign it, take the money and never think of that poor dead person again, let a alone actually say a mass for them!

Edit:

Why would you bother sending a mass card (be it signed by a genuine priest or not) if you don't believe? I have more respect for people who ''believe in all that crap'' and go along with it than those who ''don't believe in all that crap'' and still go along with it.

JustAThought · 28-09-2013 09:21AM

I suppose it shows to your wife that you are prepared to cheat & lie to a family in their time of terrible distress & don't see that this is an issue.

It would make me wonder what kind of a man you really were & if you could do something like this & not see it as an issue, what else would you be prepared to do & lie about because " it didn't really matter". Moral values &how you treat people. Even if they don't know, you still did it to them. And don't have an issue with the lie & doing it .

nosedive · 28-09-2013 09:33AM

Yes you have crossed a line.........by starting yet another boring and pointless church bashing thread. You don't believe in Gd....you rebel! You da man!

I find it quite interesting that athesits have such a need to always broadcast their views and bash the church. You don't want anything to do with it so why not just leave it be? And more importantly respect the views of others.

Your forging a mass card to me, isn't a religious crime but an insult to the deceased whose funeral you attended. It all comes back to respect. You clearly went through the motions beacause that's what was expected and it meant nothing to you.

Go Atheists!

28-09-2013 09:50AM

Absolutely disgraceful thing to do. Total and utter lack of respect.

CruelCoin · 28-09-2013 10:09AM

nosedive wrote: »

Your forging a mass card to me, isn't a religious crime but an insult to the deceased whose funeral you attended. It all comes back to respect. You clearly went through the motions because that's what was expected and it meant nothing to you.

Go Atheists!

Giving a mass card when you don't believe in it is akin to the bored looking customer service rep saying "sorry, sorry sorry" all day while not really giving a crap. It's hollow and meaningless.

I actually believe it to be disrespectful if you give a card and you don't care about it, as i appreciate genuine emotion.

OP, more respectful in my mind would have been to give nothing, rather than something fake.

Slutmonkey57b · 28-09-2013 10:40AM

nosedive wrote: »

I find it quite interesting that athesits have such a need to always broadcast their views and bash the church. You don't want anything to do with it so why not just leave it be? And more importantly respect the views of others.

This statement will make a lot more sense when the angelus isn't broadcast before the news.

Aced_Up · 28-09-2013 10:49AM

Great sense of humour in the eyes of an imaginative being ðŸ™

Fr_Dougal · 28-09-2013 10:51AM

I'm disgusted with you, OP. I would have signed it for a fiver.

28-09-2013 10:52AM

Slutmonkey57b wrote: »

This statement will make a lot more sense when the angelus isn't broadcast before the news.

What makes you think broadcasting of the Angelus will stop? Not going to happen.

Splendour · 28-09-2013 11:07AM

JustAThought wrote: »

I suppose it shows to your wife that you are prepared to cheat & lie to a family in their time of terrible distress & don't see that this is an issue.

It would make me wonder what kind of a man you really were & if you could do something like this & not see it as an issue, what else would you be prepared to do & lie about because " it didn't really matter". Moral values &how you treat people. Even if they don't know, you still did it to them. And don't have an issue with the lie & doing it .

And broadcasting it on the internet to boot...

Dicky Pride · 28-09-2013 11:08AM

No word of a lie, I was once in a line behind a woman who wanted to exchange a get well soon card for a Mass card.

kylith · 28-09-2013 11:16AM

Aren't mass cards usually signed when they're sold? If this one wasn't signed then it's probably an oversight on the parish's part and all you've done is correct their mistake. Nothing to feel guilty about, imo.

jester77 · 28-09-2013 11:32AM

What a funny tradition

Don't know why your wife is getting worked up that the lad that died won't get a mass said for him, don't most people get a funeral these days. Does that not count as a mass? And anyway the lad is dead, don't think he will be too worried at this stage, didn't the church get rid of purgatory a few years ago, so he's either made it to the pearly gates or is sitting at a roast fire by now.

donegal__road · 28-09-2013 11:40AM

one time when I was an altar boy, I took a large swig of altar wine back-stage after mass. It kind of became a habit then, whenever I got a chance I would finish off the left over wine while pretending to put back in the bottle.. my bad?

camphor · 28-09-2013 11:42AM

I'd say it is the signing with your left hand that is the cause of the problem o/p. That makes it the work of the devil!

28-09-2013 11:42AM

donegal__road wrote: »

one time when I was an altar boy, I took a large swig of altar wine back-stage after mass. It kind of became a habit then, whenever I got a chance I would finish off the left over wine while pretending to put back in the bottle.. my bad?

OH MY GOD, you stole the blood of Christ????

:pac:

Forging a mass card. Have I crossed the line?

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