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Attcked in Street (public), What do you do?. [VOTES]

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,668 ✭✭✭greedygoblin


    Are we allowed use our superpower?
    If so, I'd use my invisibility cloak, grab the knife, and the shoe would be on the other foot, so to speak.

    If not, call Chuck Norris.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 72 ✭✭ARWRanger


    We must DEFEAT every scumbag in Ireland, drive them out.

    DRIVE THEM OUT, every anti-social knacker scumbag needs to DYE.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,420 ✭✭✭✭sligojoek


    Tell him if he doesn't f**k off you'll ring Joe Duffy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,977 ✭✭✭SCOOP 64


    ARWRanger wrote: »
    We must DEFEAT every scumbag in Ireland, drive them out.

    DRIVE THEM OUT, every anti-social knacker scumbag needs to DYE.

    But there isn't any, every Mum and Dad will tell you that,
    Nicest bloke you could meet,
    Would not harm a soul,
    Salt of the earth.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,221 ✭✭✭NuckingFacker


    Is kicking their wrist, causing the knife to fly up in the air, catching it then plunging it into their chest a poll option? No? Shame.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 72 ✭✭ARWRanger


    SCOOP 64 wrote: »
    But there isn't any, every Mum and Dad will tell you that,
    Nicest bloke you could meet,
    Would not harm a sole,
    Salt of the earth.
    hhahahaha


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 72 ✭✭ARWRanger


    To defeat scum and drive them out , what items and equipment do you need?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,466 ✭✭✭Clandestine


    I'd run for my f***ing life.

    The guy has a knife, not a stick, and that thing is deadly. I'd rather get out of the situation asap, a knife fight is nothing like you seen in the films. Its not going to be him taking slow slashes at me, it'll be quick and frenzied and i won't have the time nor the means to defend myself properly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,594 ✭✭✭DoozerT6


    Being realistic for a minute, unless we have actually been in that situation, not ONE of us could say for definite what we would do - we might SAY 'I'd kick him in the nuts and stab him with the peak of his own scobie baseball cap' when in reality we might be unable to speak, wet ourselves, collapse in a heap on the ground, start crying and let him take whatever he wanted.

    Of course nobody is going to admit to that here, are they ;)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 72 ✭✭ARWRanger


    http://www.rte.ie/radio1/liveline/ => Phone up Joe => Discuss about the amount of scum in Ireland => Last 7 days there have been a total of 6 stabbings by scummers,

    The Guards also do not have permission to defeat the scum


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭Basil Fawlty


    There is only one real solution:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 72 ✭✭ARWRanger


    DoozerT6 wrote: »
    Being realistic for a minute, unless we have actually been in that situation, not ONE of us could say for definite what we would do - we might SAY 'I'd kick him in the nuts and stab him with the peak of his own scobie baseball cap' when in reality we might be unable to speak, wet ourselves, collapse in a heap on the ground, start crying and let him take whatever he wanted.

    Of course nobody is going to admit to that here, are they ;)

    Well, the thing is if this happens once or a couple of times to people with a good amount of class they will hunt them back down.... which is good, very good ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,114 ✭✭✭OU812




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,309 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    I'm late 20s and stupidly when growing up I thought being tough or hard meant being able to handle yourself and standing your ground. In reality it means finding a deadly weapon and trying to use it on someone. Be it a knife, bat, gun or whatever. Ideally attacking from behind too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,594 ✭✭✭DoozerT6


    [QUOTE=B.A._Baracus;86686705].[/QUOTE]

    Wouldn't you just pity da fool??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,309 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    DoozerT6 wrote: »
    Wouldn't you just pity da fool??

    Quick someone give me a knife .. and would you be so kind to turn around :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,167 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    I'd take out my Uzi sub machine gun and shoot them, but I'd do it in a civil manner...otherwise I'd end up banned...if you know what I mean OP? Eh, eh?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,221 ✭✭✭NuckingFacker


    Anyone here been stabbed? I have, several times. It hurts. Someone pulled a knife on me when I was working as a doorman, they went to stab my stomach. I caught the blade, they pulled back and it cut off my thumb. That hurts. Others popped stanleys down my back when I wasn't looking. That also hurts. Another stuck one in my thigh and the blade broke off. That really hurts.

    I now have a severe dislike for people who pull knives and endeavour where possible to impress upon them the error of their ways through pre-emptive action.

    Generally speaking, if you are of average build, average fitness and average braveness, the absolutely hardest kick you can muster to the side of their nearest loadbearing knee is the most appropriate deterrent. Be as big as you like, if someone kicks your knee 6" sideways, you tend to lose interest in what you were doing and focus your attention on the fact your knee doesn't work anymore. You can then run like the clappers. They will probably have other concerns than pursuit. :) Or you can spend ages studying krav maga. Either or.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭bazza1


    Offer him counselling for his obviously deprived childhood! Turn the other cheek while he contacts his social worker and free legal aid. Support and nurture him while completing his conmmunity service!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,687 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    I'd dress up as a sexy rabbit, seduce him and while he was swooning I'd whack him over the head with a frying pan and then run like the clappers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,627 ✭✭✭Lawrence1895


    Impersonate Angela Merkel and tell him, he has one week to pay back all his debts :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 231 ✭✭claypigeon777


    If you are worried about what do then do some self defense classes or take up a martial art. MMA is the way to go because it covers all the angles, stand up fighting with punches and kicks, grappling and ground fighting. These are real world moves that can be used outside of the ring.

    First of all attackers are cowards and are drawn to weakness so but if you look alert, you walk confidently, you keep your head up, you shoulders back and you appear relaxed, calm and in control you are very unlikely to be attacked.
    A person pestering trying to suss out if you have a weak spot will usually go away if you tell them forcefully to go away.
    If they refuse to go away raise your voice and finally if you are feeling really threatened shout or scream at the top of your lungs.

    This will both gear you up for running to escape or fighting if you are cornered and have no other option but defending yourself.

    1) If you feel you are about to be attacked the first thing you should consider doing is run if you see you have a clear path and as you run away shout for help.

    2) If you path is blocked by two or more potential attackers and they want your phone or wallet then just throw them at them and then RUN.
    There's no point in being knocked to the ground and kicked in the head or possibly stabbed to death for a phone or a little money or cards that can be cancelled and replaced.

    3) If your path is not clear then shout for help and if you must defend yourself grab any loose change in your pocket and throw it at them which would be enough to surprise them for those valuable seconds you need to run. If that is not an option then you could use your keys as a weapon. Jab them in the hands or the arms and they might be surprised enough for you to have the option of running away.

    4) Only if you have no other options will you resort to REAL violence. You don't need to have black belt to know that a kick or a knee in the balls or a hard open slap across the face or a punch on the nose will stun an attacker. An attacker might expect you to be too shocked at a sudden outbreak of aggression from a stranger and to freeze. They maybe think twice if you strike first and even if your blow does not land it may be enough for them to back off. An attacker is usually a coward and if they feel you are going to make them sorry they will back off.

    5) If you are being physically attacked and you have absolutely no other option then you will have to fight.
    A real world fight is not like a Bruce Lee movie or a boxing match in the ring. It is clumsy and there are no rules.
    The person who lands and connects with his or her blows will win and that person must be more vicious.
    If you don't have a black belt you don't need one to know you can clench your fists or to kick out and flail at your attacker and try and hit him (99.99% of attackers will be a man) as many times as possible and as fast as possible.
    Your forehead is the hardest part of your body. Smash it into your attackers face.
    Use elbows and fists and knees and kicks and deliver as many as you possibly can.
    If you are scared then scream and shout while you are hitting your attacker.

    6) If you are being viciously and violently attacked you have to prepared to be hit and hit hard but you have to continue fighting until your attacker backs off or you see an opening to run clear. Man or woman, if someone is on top of you (most prolonged fights will result in a struggle on the ground) try to pin you pinch, squeeze, scratch, tear, bite, gouge and stab etc.
    Do whatever you have to do to survive.
    If you genuinely feel your life is in danger pick up any weapon - bottle, chair, brick or rock - and use it.

    As you can see there is a process of escalation.
    You only need to use force and only the appropriate level of force for the appropriate situation.
    You obviously do NOT use a weapon to beat some harmless drunk who is pestering you for a light.
    On the other end of the scale if someone is a raving psychotic maniac you obviously do not try to reason with them.
    If you can avoid using violence at all then do NOT use violence.
    As I said if the option is there to RUN then don't mess about and RUN.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,687 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    Holy **** NuckingFacker! I'm sending around the social workers right now so we can get you fostered to a decent family.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,622 ✭✭✭Ruu


    Glove slap and demand satisfaction, watch them back down. :cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,564 ✭✭✭notnumber


    I would activate my internal magnetic core and the knife would fly into my hand..then I would carve a Z on his forehead.
    Z not for Zorro but just cos its an easy letter to carve unlike a B or a Q.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,668 ✭✭✭greedygoblin


    I think the best defence is to stay alert. If you can see beforehand the possibility of a situation arising, then take evasive action. This had gotten me out of potentially dangerous confrontations in the past.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 231 ✭✭claypigeon777


    Forget all the crap you saw in movies.

    What works in the real world?

    The only defense against a knife is a gun and you better get than gun out QUICK.

    An attacker can close that distance in a fraction of second and it only takes seconds to receive multiple fatal wounds.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 915 ✭✭✭hansfrei


    NF said it. Kick in the knee.

    Used to wear steel toes esp for this reason.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 231 ✭✭claypigeon777


    This is a no BS about real knife defense.

    There is no real world knife defense only if you are prepared to be stabbed and seriously injured or dead.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz-gQw7H3T4&feature=fvwp


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    I picked "shoot him" on the assumption that doing so would give me a gun.

    To date no gun has appeared.


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