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scientists find proof of life in outer space. evolution to be rewritten!!!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 784 ✭✭✭thecornflake


    In the decades of space travel we have not noticed these life forms on anything brought back from any space mission ever. Seems a bit odd.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,888 ✭✭✭AtomicHorror


    It is unlikely to be true.

    But don't forget we live in a world where a lot of people believe in a man in the sky called God who will bring us all to happy ever after when we die cos who sent his ONLY son down to clear us of sin and he did and now we can all go back to heaven and we remember this every Sunday by eating a bit of wafer.

    I vote for the space microbes.

    Invincible space microbes versus wacky self-sacrificing zombie cannibal sky-king story. If we have to pick just one (we don't) then yeah, the space microbes win.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,888 ✭✭✭AtomicHorror


    In the decades of space travel we have not noticed these life forms on anything brought back from any space mission ever. Seems a bit odd.

    In decades of space travel, we've left Earth orbit about 6 times using technology nearly a half century old. Orbital missions would be incredibly unlikely to encounter these life forms. Unless they happened to be in the same orbit somehow, they'd pass by (or impact) at kilometre-per-second speeds. Not going to see them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,668 ✭✭✭greedygoblin


    Have they unequivocally ruled out these organisms originating from Earth?

    In my view, no, they haven't. Therefore, to make the claim that they came from space is a bit premature.

    It kind of does remind me of that case from Evora in Portugal back in the 1950's when this cobweb-like material started raining down on the town. It was put down to small insects or single-celled organisms producing it.

    Say if these particles were transported high up to the stratosphere somehow. Would it be completely unrealistic to believe that they could survive up there for an extended period of time? Adapt to the environment? Even reproduce, before falling back down?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    Eh, this just looks like 1 thing happened and the scientists are trying to make a name for themselves. Would need to do much more testing before could even think it was a possibility. Remember the neutron moving faster than the speed of light?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,059 ✭✭✭WilyCoyote


    Possibly.




    http://www.itv.com/news/2013-09-19/evidence-of-life-arriving-from-space-could-revolutionise-biology-and-evolution/

    TLDR?

    Scientists send balloon up into atmosphere, balloon arrives back with 'life particles' too big to have gotten there from earth, so they reckon it's more than probably came from space, and probably was the first life particles to ever arrive on our planet.

    Essentially making us all space children.

    It's almost a statistic certainty that we're not alone in the universe. But did we evolve from these particles?

    Thoughts.

    Percy Bysshe Shelley said as much yonks ago ......... something like we were gold dusty from tumbling among the stars. Anyone sober enough to check it out?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭pharmaton


    I had a dream about this, posted it here a while ago. THats weird.

    edit: teh deh


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,059 ✭✭✭WilyCoyote


    Oops! It was said of Shelley ....... . Cheers!

    """"""take them in a catalogue. A brother poet refers to Shelley as "gold-dusty from tumbling among the stars," and we feel the adequacy of the descrip­tion. In Elizabethan times there was a spring-like joy in the fresh words of the language; the Euphuists took a special delight in their manip­ulation. Shakespeare in the richness of his imagination found the existing supply of words inadequate and had to coin new symbols to do justice to the treasures of his mind. In doing so he had in mind his fellows; he not only found a more adequate means of self-expression but he endowed his fellows with a much richer language."""""


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,059 ✭✭✭WilyCoyote


    pharmaton wrote: »
    I had a dream about this, posted it here a while ago. THats weird.

    edit: teh deh

    Touche!

    THERE was a time when meadow, grove, and stream,
    The earth, and every common sight,
    To me did seem
    Apparell'd in celestial light,
    The glory and the freshness of a dream. 5
    It is not now as it hath been of yore;—
    Turn wheresoe'er I may,
    By night or day,
    The things which I have seen I now can see no more.

    The rainbow comes and goes, 10
    And lovely is the rose;
    The moon doth with delight
    Look round her when the heavens are bare;
    Waters on a starry night
    Are beautiful and fair; 15
    The sunshine is a glorious birth;
    But yet I know, where'er I go,
    That there hath pass'd away a glory from the earth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,668 ✭✭✭greedygoblin


    WilyCoyote wrote: »
    Touche!

    THERE was a time when meadow, grove, and stream,
    The earth, and every common sight,
    To me did seem
    Apparell'd in celestial light,
    The glory and the freshness of a dream. 5
    It is not now as it hath been of yore;—
    Turn wheresoe'er I may,
    By night or day,
    The things which I have seen I now can see no more.

    The rainbow comes and goes, 10
    And lovely is the rose;
    The moon doth with delight
    Look round her when the heavens are bare;
    Waters on a starry night
    Are beautiful and fair; 15
    The sunshine is a glorious birth;
    But yet I know, where'er I go,
    That there hath pass'd away a glory from the earth.

    That's Wordsworth dude! :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,059 ✭✭✭WilyCoyote


    That's Wordsworth dude! :D

    "A brother poet refers to Shelley" .............. well spotted old boy!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,059 ✭✭✭WilyCoyote


    Just as well I suppose. 20 years from now and people would be asking where were you when you first learned we weren't alone in the universe I'd have to answer, "Playing GTA V having sex with some hooker I met at the strippers and browsing boards.ie with my laptop on my own just wearing a vest :(" I'd have to lie and say I was reading the news or something :rolleyes:

    Teddy, have you still got the stringed vest?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭pharmaton


    Randi should give me a million dollars
    I had a dream few years ago that there were creatures living in the stratosphere (or whatever you call it) above the earth, it was like it was an undiscovered ocean of species like jellyfish, but they weren't jellyfish they were like clouds, with sentience and no body could see them because no one had really been up there. Best way I could explain it.

    from link article_5d5b3d3ff4dee483_1379607034_9j-4aaqsk.jpeg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    WilyCoyote wrote: »
    Teddy, have you still got the stringed vest?

    Of course :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,668 ✭✭✭greedygoblin


    pharmaton wrote: »
    Randi should give me a million dollars

    from link article_5d5b3d3ff4dee483_1379607034_9j-4aaqsk.jpeg

    Was it kind of like this?


    :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭pharmaton


    Was it kind of like this?
    :pac:

    :pac: if you put that "cloud" of particles under a microscope it would (to the uninitiated) look jellyfish like, at least it would be moving and not static.
    I'm now going to offer my super powers to da police and help solve crimes/locate missing people etc etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,059 ✭✭✭WilyCoyote


    Of course :)

    Your abs must look like the grid of The Guardian crossword? ::D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 390 ✭✭Rubeter


    hansfrei wrote: »
    And heres me thinking they'd die in the cold vacuum of space or be burned up on entry through an atmosphere.

    Life particles several million, billion, zillion, trillion, gilian years old.


    S

    Here have a read of these Link 1, link 2, the ole microbes are a lot tougher than you might think.

    I people can't link, 2 stories, one about thingies surviving outside the ISS for over 500 days, the other about them surviving on the moon for nearly 3 years (they hitched a ride on an unmanned probe in early '67 and were recovered in late '69 by Apollo 12).

    When larger rocks enter the atmosphere only the outside of the rock gets hot the inside remains cold, interestingly if you pick up a meteorite just after it lands you wont get burned but you can get frostbite. :)


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