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Indian-American woman wins Miss America, 'Muricans think she's an Arab and go mad

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  • #62
    Allyall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,381 ✭✭✭✭Allyall


    MadsL wrote: »
    You mean Guinness? Guinness is an English drink (porter) brewed in Dublin by a UK company.

    "Top o' the mornin' to ya", The Irish Dancing (maybe - can't figure out what else it was) and Guinness.

    Also, it may now be an English drink, but worldwide it is regarded as an Oirish Stout.


  • #63
    MadsL
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    Allyall wrote: »
    "Top o' the mornin' to ya", The Irish Dancing (maybe - can't figure out what else it was) and Guinness.

    Also, it may now be an English drink, but worldwide it is regarded as an Oirish Stout.

    Maybe they are just very accurate. Northern Ireland included in the UK and they know their beer history. :D

    And Guinness has always been an English drink, regardless of who owns the company.


  • #64
    Allyall
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    MadsL wrote: »
    Maybe they are just very accurate. Northern Ireland included in the UK and they know their beer history. :D

    And Guinness has always been and English drink, regardless of who owns the company.

    But He didn't say "UK", he said Engerland.. :P


    Maybe an English drink, but worldwide, it is regarded as an Oirish Stout. :pac: - Edit: I get ya. Yes. probably was always a UK drink (Many say it was 'invented' in Wales or Scotland.) , But i doubt that's what she meant.


  • #65
    wil
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    Shocking. Miss America was won by a woman, a real woman :rolleyes:

    She'll be eyeing up the presidency next.

    BTW does President Benjamin Harrison count? He was from Indiana.


  • #66
    MadsL
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    Allyall wrote: »
    But He didn't say "UK", he said Engerland.. :P


    Maybe an English drink, but worldwide, it is regarded as an Oirish Stout. :pac:

    Fair point.

    Guinness is still English Porter though :) Stout originally referred to a beer's strength.


    Edit: Some good reading here http://beeradvocate.com/articles/305
    Once you start enjoying some of the more authentic porters and stouts, Guinness is probably one of the more boring beers of the world.
    /beer snob


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  • #67
    Allyall
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    wil wrote: »
    Shocking. Miss America was won by a woman, a real woman :rolleyes:

    She'll be eyeing up the presidency next.

    BTW does President Benjamin Harrison count? He was from Indiana.

    From that article:
    "beginning the year as one of the best Miss Americas ever, in the eyes of many pageant insiders.."

    :D

    Those competitions are daft.
    "Miss America/World/Any Country" if she actually has to exist, should surely be someone who has actually contributed something to society, done something, achieved something?

    Originally it was just a competition to get Wimmens out of the kitchen so Old men could ogle them (Swimsuits were near porn back then) on the TV.

    Surely it should move along with the times?
    MadsL wrote: »
    Fair point.

    Guinness is still English Porter though Stout originally referred to a beer's strength.

    Probably true, i was just being pedantic with the video. :)


  • #68
    wil
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    Allyall wrote: »
    Kinda ironic that one of the common mistakes they are trying to make people aware of ("Japanese or Korean, i knew it was one") in that video, they make themselves unintentionally, twice in the video and once at the end (bloopers).. :rolleyes:
    TBH that would have added to the desired effect because he didnt have a clue to begin with, and even if he did, then that should have riled him in exactly the same way. Shur Irish or English, I knew it was one.

    Now I'm hankering after a Guinness Pie - theres hibernobrit cuisine at its best.


  • #69
    UCDVet
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    To be perfectly honest, I think she was a poor choice for Miss America. I find these contests to be rather silly, but the winner is supposed to represent 'America', in the same way Miss Ireland is supposed to represent Ireland.

    This girl is a US citizen. That's a legal designation. But does that mean she represents the country and culture? Not necessarily. I'm a few years I expect to be an Irish citizen - but I'd be a terrible choice for a Mr. Ireland (ignoring that I'm unpopular, ugly, and untalented....) - because I'm not very Irish.

    Her parents were born in India. Her name is Indian. Her interests, as reported on her own bio sites, focus far more on Indian culture than US culture. She is trained in Kuchipudi and Bharatanatyam dancing, she has yearly visits to India (from what I've read, the majority of her summers), she regularly watches Telgu films to 'stay connected with India'. Every second thing I read about her is about India and Indian culture.

    Her choice in talent was a classical Bollywood dance and her 'message' is celebrating diversity.

    I don't know the history of the Miss Ireland pageant - but this would be like selecting a girl whose parents were born in France, who identifies with French culture, who spends her summers in France, who competed by showcasing traditional French dance.

    I'm sure some people in Ireland, who aren't racist, would have a problem with this.

    Also interesting, is that everyone is calling people who feel she was a bad choice, 'Racist'. But nobody seems to mind that massive outpouring of support she is receiving from Indians.
    The Miss America organization is inundated with requests from media in India. In fact, demand is so strong that organizers say they will probably send Nina Davuluri to India sometime in the coming months.

    "We can't keep up with all the requests coming in from India"

    "It's never been like this before,''

    That seems awfully hypocritical to me.

    Right or wrong, people identify with others they share things with. She is Indian - and now people in India are falling over themselves to meet 'Ms America' - because she represents....INDIAN culture. She's a hit, IN INDIA. The pageant themselves admit that it has 'never been like this'.

    We all know the same thing would not be happening if some generic American girl won. People in India wouldn't care.

    Some Americans feel she is culturally less American and more Indian - they are racist.
    Some Indians feel she is culturally less American and more Indian - they are just happy fans.

    "They all want to talk to her because she's a role model for women in India. "

    Ms. America is a role model for women in India, that's according the the pageant spokesman. Is it really unsurprising that some American's feel slighted?

    I haven't looked at the immigration numbers, but I think is a growing number of Indians in the US - so in another 20 years, maybe 'American culture' will have changed and she will represent a typical American. But right now? She doesn't.

    Either way, I can't say I care. But I'm certainly not surprised.


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