F**k

19-09-2013 09:19PM

lahalane wrote: »

I dislike that argument. People who use bad language are making use of more words in the English language. If anyone is being lazy it's the non potty mouths.

Some people use bad words for shock value, sure, but some people use them cleverly and wittily. Moreso the latter in my experience.

And some say f*ck every second word. It loses all power, impact and meaning if that's the case, and it becomes very lazy indeedy in those instances.

paddy147 · 19-09-2013 09:22PM

Gordon Ramsay.

Fcukin W@nker D!ckface

AlanS181824 · 19-09-2013 09:36PM

I don't think it's bad... not at all.
It's just a word at the end of the day.
People use the word all the time and it's all too common nowadays sadly.
Fuckin' hell!

Menas · 19-09-2013 09:39PM

My car mechanic curses like a sailor. "The fckin thing is fckin well fcked" are words you do not want to hear him utter.

ShooterSF · 19-09-2013 10:16PM

Words are words and one shouldn't be offended by the utterance of one but rather the message the person is trying to get across. "The f'n TV is broke" is fine. "You're a useless f" not so fine. IMO

Wibbs · 19-09-2013 10:42PM

Apocalypse Now. Colonel Kurtz "We train young men to drop fire on people, but their commanders won't allow them to write "Fúck"* on their airplanes because that's obscene"

*and I had to circumvent the swear filter to post this.

daRobot · 19-09-2013 11:52PM

I very much enjoy swearing, especially with often unused combinations, for example: The fcuking ignominious cnut

Anyone who gets upset, or offended by swearing in casual conversation, is not someone I want to know.

That said, there are times when it's off limits absolutely.

languagenerd · 20-09-2013 01:27AM

I think, in Ireland at least, it's the tone and context that decide whether it's offensive or not. I'm 21, and most people my age use it without even thinking - though I do sometimes catch myself saying it and think afterwards "Ohh, maybe I should have kept that in check". At the end of the day, though, it's hardly a big deal if you say "Ah, fuck" when you drop something or "What the fuck was that?!" when you're shocked by something. It's only a problem if you're using it to insult someone or if it's a particularly formal context.

That said, I absolutely hate the word cunt and almost never use it. (Was going to say "never", but I technically just used it there, didn't I? :pac:)

Mammanabammana · 20-09-2013 01:48AM

Why do so many people on Boards have such a problem with typing the word fuck? I constantly see f*ck, fu*k, f.uck, ****, fúck, fcuk, fook, fck etc etc...numerous people seem to have this huge hangup about typing some variation that makes people think the word fuck but they draw the line at actually typing it. But why? What's the problem? If you're making people think the word fuck, you might as well be typing the word fuck.

languagenerd · 20-09-2013 01:55AM

Mammanabammana wrote: »

Why do so many people on Boards have such a problem with typing the word fuck? I constantly see f*ck, fu*k, f.uck, ****, fúck, fcuk, fook, fck etc etc...numerous people seem to have this huge hangup about typing some variation that makes people think the word fuck but they draw the line at actually typing it. But why? What's the problem? If you're making people think the word fuck, you might as well be typing the word fuck.

It's mostly to get around the swear filter, no?

jester77 · 20-09-2013 08:53AM

It's one of the most versatile words in the English language.

"**** ****ing ****ed ****er ****ing ****ups **** ****ing ****ed ****ing ****up ****ing ****er's ****ing ****up." is a gramatically correct sentence.

BeerWolf · 20-09-2013 09:12AM

**** you OP - I'll leave it to your imagine to what is censored or if I'm just using asterisks.

Angeles · 20-09-2013 09:48AM

I think its a crafty way of making the reader say the bad word.
When you see F**k, your mind will obviously think the word F**k.
But the writer never actually says it. I could have meant fork but you yourself are the bad guy now for filling in the gaps and i can get away with saying F**K

Its the same for the N word!! OMG can you believe that guy said the N word?
In your mind you know and have already said what the N word meant.. But all i did was say the N word you F**k

fryup · 20-09-2013 09:56AM

did any of you ever watch the western series Deadwood

they have cowboys cursing all the time.........but surely the F word didn't exist back in those days??

i always thought it came about after WW1 after the "fokker" aircraft ?

BeerWolf · 20-09-2013 09:59AM

fryup wrote: »

did any of you ever watch the western series Deadwood

they have cowboys cursing all the time.........but surely the F word didn't exist back in those days??

i always thought it came about after WW1 after the "fokker" aircraft ?

The word has existed for centuries - though being used as a profanity since mid 19th Century.

fryup · 20-09-2013 10:12AM

BeerWolf wrote: »

The word has existed for centuries - though being used as a profanity since mid 19th Century.

oh ya?? where's the proof

is it mentioned in the bible? or the book of kells? or in any of shakespeare's works? :cool:

HansHolzel · 20-09-2013 10:15AM

BeerWolf wrote: »

The word has existed for centuries

Yes, it's an Anglo-Saxon word.

Howard Juneau · 20-09-2013 11:02AM

fryup wrote: »

oh ya?? where's the proof

is it mentioned in the bible? or the book of kells? or in any of shakespeare's works? :cool:

Mentioning proof & the bible in the same sentence.

That's a paddlin'

salacious crumb · 20-09-2013 11:33AM

fryup wrote: »

did any of you ever watch the western series Deadwood

"From its debut, Deadwood drew attention for its extensive profanity. It is a deliberate anachronism on the part of the creator with a twofold intent. Milch explained in several interviews that the characters were originally intended to use period slang and swear words. Such words, however, were based heavily on the era's deep religious roots and tended to be more blasphemous than scatological. Instead of being shockingly crude (in keeping with the tone of a frontier mining camp), the results sounded downright comical. As one commentator put it "… if you put words like 'goldarn' into the mouths of the characters on 'Deadwood', they'd all wind up sounding like Yosemite Sam."
Instead, it was decided that the show would use current profanity in order for the words to have the same impact on modern audiences as the blasphemous ones did back in the 1870s. In early episodes, the character of Mr. Wu excessively uses "cocksucker," his favorite derogatory term for those whom he dislikes. Wu is also fond of the Cantonese derogatory term "gweilo" which he applies to the camp's white males.
The other intent in regards to the frequency of the swearing was to signal to the audience the lawlessness of the camp in much the same way that the original inhabitants used it to show that they were living outside the bounds of "civil society".
The issue of the authenticity of Deadwood's dialogue has even been alluded to in the show itself. Early in the second season, E.B. Farnum has fleeced Mr. Wolcott of $9,900, and Farnum tries to console the geologist:

EB: Some ancient Italian maxim fits our situation, whose particulars escape me.
Wolcott: Is the gist that I'm **** outta luck?
EB: Did they speak that way then?

The word "****" was said 43 times in the first hour of the show. It has been reported that the series had a total count of 2,980 "****s" and an average of 1.56 utterances of "****" per minute of footage"

languagenerd · 20-09-2013 01:23PM

fryup wrote: »

did any of you ever watch the western series Deadwood

they have cowboys cursing all the time.........but surely the F word didn't exist back in those days??

i always thought it came about after WW1 after the "fokker" aircraft ?

No, the word "fuck" has existed for centuries - it was first noted in a poem from 1475! It mightn't have always been considered as offensive and it fell out of use for a while, but it's not a recent invention by any means.

(It probably wasn't used by cowboys, in fairness...)

Mammanabammana · 20-09-2013 03:36PM

languagenerd wrote: »

It's mostly to get around the swear filter, no?

What swear filter?

Howard Juneau · 20-09-2013 03:38PM

Mammanabammana wrote: »

What swear filter?

This ****ing swear filter you ****** ****ing ****

Lawrence1895 · 20-09-2013 03:39PM

Scheisse

HansHolzel · 20-09-2013 03:43PM

Lars1916 wrote: »

Scheisse

Good job you didn't write that in Irish. You'd get threatened by a moderator, like I did.

Lawrence1895 · 20-09-2013 03:45PM

HansHolzel wrote: »

Good job you didn't write that in Irish. You'd get threatened by a moderator, like I did.

If I did that in the soccer forum, I would be in trouble, one of them speaks German

Howard Juneau · 20-09-2013 03:46PM

HansHolzel wrote: »

Good job you didn't write that in Irish. You'd get threatened by a moderator, like I did.

A few Irish speakers in dingle just say
Tá tú lán de coc

Lawrence1895 · 20-09-2013 03:48PM

Howard Juneau wrote: »

A few Irish speakers in dingle just say
Tá tú lán de coc

How exactly do you pronounce that?

Howard Juneau · 20-09-2013 04:00PM

Lars1916 wrote: »

How exactly do you pronounce that?

"say what you see!"

jrmb · 20-09-2013 04:03PM

If it's a direct quotation, it's not something the newspapers should censor. They should probably avoid it where possible though.

Lawrence1895 · 20-09-2013 04:05PM

Howard Juneau wrote: »

"say what you see!"

Tah tuh lahn de cock?

F**k

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