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F**k

  • 19-09-2013 7:20pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 954 ✭✭✭


    It's perfectly okay to print 'f**k' in newspapers but it'd be considered rude to spell it out properly.

    During a match you can scream 'Are you blind?' at a referee and get away with it but add the word 'f**king' to it and you're in trouble.

    My cousin, who gossips viciously about people, considers me to be rude because she heard me use the word once before.

    It's probably the most powerful word in the world. Some people refuse to use it. Some people use it in every sentence. Do you think it will still be considered a terrible word in 50 years time?

    I like to think that we will have gotten over it by then. It's just another word at the end of the day and a pretty harmless one too when you think about it. Can anybody really be offended by it anymore? I'd be equally upset if someone told me to 'go away' as I would if they said '**** off'.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    Ach,




    Fùck off OP.


    ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    Fcuk that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,249 ✭✭✭kbell


    C u n t is a better word.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    lahalane wrote: »
    It's perfectly okay to print 'f**k' in newspapers but it'd be considered rude to spell it out properly.

    During a match you can scream 'Are you blind?' at a referee and get away with it but add the word 'f**king' to it and you're in trouble.

    My cousin, who gossips viciously about people, considers me to be rude because she heard me use the word once before.

    It's probably the most powerful word in the world. Some people refuse to use it. Some people use it in every sentence. Do you think it will still be considered a terrible word in 50 years time?

    I like to think that we will have gotten over it by then. It's just another word at the end of the day and a pretty harmless one too when you think about it. Can anybody really be offended by it anymore? I'd be equally upset if someone told me to 'go away' as I would if they said '**** off'.

    "C U Next Tuesday" seems more powerful
    bunch of americans were over and they were using f*** alot and when c**t was used they almost "grimace"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,339 ✭✭✭Artful_Badger


    I think these days its seen as offensive not because the word itself is actually offensive but because its perceived as offensive and to use it shows either a disregard for others on your part or an attempt to be offensive by showing that disgregard...........I got lost halfway through that one I think. :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 954 ✭✭✭lahalane


    And obviously some people still use it to get a reaction, which is grand if not a little childish :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭Dunny


    Shi tehawk


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,231 ✭✭✭mutley18


    Great word, who needs dialogue eh?



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    You cant say Sh!t on TV.....


    Or can you?????





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Fuck


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭miller50841


    Ah fcukin hell


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 954 ✭✭✭lahalane


    its perceived as offensive and to use it shows either a disregard for others on your part or an attempt to be offensive by showing that disgregard

    That would probably be a lot of peoples reasons for disliking it although I don't necessarily agree with it. If I use the word it's because I don't see a problem with it so I'm not attempting to be offensive. It doesn't mean I am showing a disregard for other people either. It's not my fault that they are offended by a word.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    wprathead wrote: »
    "C U Next Tuesday" seems more powerful
    bunch of americans were over and they were using f*** alot and when c**t was used they almost "grimace"

    You cant say c.u.n.t. in Canada



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,518 ✭✭✭stefan idiot jones


    lahalane wrote: »

    It's probably the most powerful word in the world.

    Prayer is the most powerful.

    Now all together 'Our Father, who..........


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 954 ✭✭✭lahalane


    Since most of the replies are from people with the sole goal of using the word to get a reaction, I suppose we're not going to be mature enough to get over the world for a while yet :(


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    Fcuk fcukidy fcuk fcuk fcuk



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    lahalane wrote: »
    Since most of the replies are from people with the sole goal of using the word to get a reaction, I suppose we're not going to be mature enough to get over the world for a while yet :(


    Fooking Hell







    Fupp Off



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,622 ✭✭✭Ruu


    Ffffffffffffff ffffffff PLOPPERS!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,339 ✭✭✭Artful_Badger


    lahalane wrote: »
    That would probably be a lot of peoples reasons for disliking it although I don't necessarily agree with it. If I use the word it's because I don't see a problem with it so I'm not attempting to be offensive. It doesn't mean I am showing a disregard for other people either. It's not my fault that they are offended by a word.

    I suppose it doesn't matter what your reasons are for using it as people will just respond to it based on how they feel about it. Its a word that has always been used to be vulgar and a lot of people dont care for vulgarity when dealing with other people they might not be that close to.

    Its always been right to be polite to other people and in being vulgar or to act without caring if you come across as vulgar would be to be impolite.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    No homework tonight lads?:pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,071 ✭✭✭✭wp_rathead


    slight off topic, but i love the blog in your sig Lahalane :D

    agree anyfilm can be made better with dinosaurs


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,901 ✭✭✭Howard Juneau


    No homework tonight lads?:pac:

    We have to decline the verb fúck
    Fúck me
    Fúck you....
    :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    No homework tonight lads?:pac:






  • Closed Accounts Posts: 954 ✭✭✭lahalane


    I suppose it doesn't matter what your reasons are for using it as people will just respond to it based on how they feel about it. Its a word that has always been used to be vulgar and a lot of people dont care for vulgarity when dealing with other people they might not be that close to.

    Its always been right to be polite to other people and in being vulgar or to act without caring if you come across as vulgar would be to be impolite.

    True. It's just annoying that most of the people I know that would deem using the word to be impolite are themselves impolite in numerous different ways.

    If the word was taken down off the pedestal it's on then maybe it wouldn't be deemed offensive or risqué. Sadly I don't think that day will ever come in my lifetime anyway so I will have to deal with the people who still get offended by it/use it to come across as funnier/cooler.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 996 ✭✭✭HansHolzel


    wprathead wrote: »
    "C U Next Tuesday" seems more powerful
    bunch of americans were over and they were using f*** alot and when c**t was used they almost "grimace"

    Yes, in America that is a very bad word.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,901 ✭✭✭Howard Juneau


    HansHolzel wrote: »
    Yes, in America that is a very bad word.

    Pity GUNS isn't ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,914 ✭✭✭✭Eeden


    What about the argument that people who use "bad" language are inarticulate or lazy? Anyone go along with that?

    I think it's waffle, as some of the most interesting, intelligent and articulate people I know swear like sailors.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 996 ✭✭✭HansHolzel


    Pity GUNS isn't ;)

    Nude Nuns with Big Guns is a 2010 nunsploitation thriller film. So Wiki tells me.

    There's no accounting for cultural sensitivities, is there?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 954 ✭✭✭lahalane


    Eeden wrote: »
    What about the argument that people who use "bad" language are inarticulate or lazy? Anyone go along with that?

    I think it's waffle, as some of the most interesting, intelligent and articulate people I know swear like sailors.

    I dislike that argument. People who use bad language are making use of more words in the English language. If anyone is being lazy it's the non potty mouths.

    Some people use bad words for shock value, sure, but some people use them cleverly and wittily. Moreso the latter in my experience.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    Eeden wrote: »
    What about the argument that people who use "bad" language are inarticulate or lazy? Anyone go along with that?

    I think it's waffle, as some of the most interesting, intelligent and articulate people I know swear like sailors.


    Don't go with that argument at all

    I've heard some wonderfully innovative and articulate swearing in my time.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    lahalane wrote: »
    I dislike that argument. People who use bad language are making use of more words in the English language. If anyone is being lazy it's the non potty mouths.

    Some people use bad words for shock value, sure, but some people use them cleverly and wittily. Moreso the latter in my experience.

    And some say f*ck every second word. It loses all power, impact and meaning if that's the case, and it becomes very lazy indeedy in those instances.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    Gordon Ramsay.


    Fcukin W@nker D!ckface



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭AlanS181824


    I don't think it's bad... not at all.
    It's just a word at the end of the day.
    People use the word all the time and it's all too common nowadays sadly.
    Fuckin' hell!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Menas


    My car mechanic curses like a sailor. "The fckin thing is fckin well fcked" are words you do not want to hear him utter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    Words are words and one shouldn't be offended by the utterance of one but rather the message the person is trying to get across. "The f'n TV is broke" is fine. "You're a useless f" not so fine. IMO


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,218 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Apocalypse Now. Colonel Kurtz "We train young men to drop fire on people, but their commanders won't allow them to write "Fúck"* on their airplanes because that's obscene"





    *and I had to circumvent the swear filter to post this.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,380 ✭✭✭daRobot


    I very much enjoy swearing, especially with often unused combinations, for example: The fcuking ignominious cnut

    Anyone who gets upset, or offended by swearing in casual conversation, is not someone I want to know.

    That said, there are times when it's off limits absolutely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,201 ✭✭✭languagenerd


    I think, in Ireland at least, it's the tone and context that decide whether it's offensive or not. I'm 21, and most people my age use it without even thinking - though I do sometimes catch myself saying it and think afterwards "Ohh, maybe I should have kept that in check". At the end of the day, though, it's hardly a big deal if you say "Ah, fuck" when you drop something or "What the fuck was that?!" when you're shocked by something. It's only a problem if you're using it to insult someone or if it's a particularly formal context.

    That said, I absolutely hate the word cunt and almost never use it. (Was going to say "never", but I technically just used it there, didn't I? :pac:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 578 ✭✭✭Mammanabammana


    Why do so many people on Boards have such a problem with typing the word fuck? I constantly see f*ck, fu*k, f.uck, ****, fúck, fcuk, fook, fck etc etc...numerous people seem to have this huge hangup about typing some variation that makes people think the word fuck but they draw the line at actually typing it. But why? What's the problem? If you're making people think the word fuck, you might as well be typing the word fuck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,201 ✭✭✭languagenerd


    Why do so many people on Boards have such a problem with typing the word fuck? I constantly see f*ck, fu*k, f.uck, ****, fúck, fcuk, fook, fck etc etc...numerous people seem to have this huge hangup about typing some variation that makes people think the word fuck but they draw the line at actually typing it. But why? What's the problem? If you're making people think the word fuck, you might as well be typing the word fuck.

    It's mostly to get around the swear filter, no?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    It's one of the most versatile words in the English language.

    "**** ****ing ****ed ****er ****ing ****ups **** ****ing ****ed ****ing ****up ****ing ****er's ****ing ****up." is a gramatically correct sentence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,122 ✭✭✭BeerWolf


    **** you OP - I'll leave it to your imagine to what is censored or if I'm just using asterisks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 232 ✭✭Angeles


    I think its a crafty way of making the reader say the bad word.
    When you see F**k, your mind will obviously think the word F**k.
    But the writer never actually says it. I could have meant fork but you yourself are the bad guy now for filling in the gaps and i can get away with saying F**K

    Its the same for the N word!! OMG can you believe that guy said the N word?
    In your mind you know and have already said what the N word meant.. But all i did was say the N word you F**k


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    did any of you ever watch the western series Deadwood

    they have cowboys cursing all the time.........but surely the F word didn't exist back in those days??

    i always thought it came about after WW1 after the "fokker" aircraft ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,122 ✭✭✭BeerWolf


    fryup wrote: »
    did any of you ever watch the western series Deadwood

    they have cowboys cursing all the time.........but surely the F word didn't exist back in those days??

    i always thought it came about after WW1 after the "fokker" aircraft ?

    The word has existed for centuries - though being used as a profanity since mid 19th Century.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    BeerWolf wrote: »
    The word has existed for centuries - though being used as a profanity since mid 19th Century.

    oh ya?? where's the proof

    is it mentioned in the bible? or the book of kells? or in any of shakespeare's works? :cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 996 ✭✭✭HansHolzel


    BeerWolf wrote: »
    The word has existed for centuries

    Yes, it's an Anglo-Saxon word.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,901 ✭✭✭Howard Juneau


    fryup wrote: »
    oh ya?? where's the proof

    is it mentioned in the bible? or the book of kells? or in any of shakespeare's works? :cool:

    Mentioning proof & the bible in the same sentence.

    That's a paddlin'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,029 ✭✭✭salacious crumb


    fryup wrote: »
    did any of you ever watch the western series Deadwood

    "From its debut, Deadwood drew attention for its extensive profanity. It is a deliberate anachronism on the part of the creator with a twofold intent. Milch explained in several interviews that the characters were originally intended to use period slang and swear words. Such words, however, were based heavily on the era's deep religious roots and tended to be more blasphemous than scatological. Instead of being shockingly crude (in keeping with the tone of a frontier mining camp), the results sounded downright comical. As one commentator put it "… if you put words like 'goldarn' into the mouths of the characters on 'Deadwood', they'd all wind up sounding like Yosemite Sam."
    Instead, it was decided that the show would use current profanity in order for the words to have the same impact on modern audiences as the blasphemous ones did back in the 1870s. In early episodes, the character of Mr. Wu excessively uses "cocksucker," his favorite derogatory term for those whom he dislikes. Wu is also fond of the Cantonese derogatory term "gweilo" which he applies to the camp's white males.
    The other intent in regards to the frequency of the swearing was to signal to the audience the lawlessness of the camp in much the same way that the original inhabitants used it to show that they were living outside the bounds of "civil society".
    The issue of the authenticity of Deadwood's dialogue has even been alluded to in the show itself. Early in the second season, E.B. Farnum has fleeced Mr. Wolcott of $9,900, and Farnum tries to console the geologist:

    EB: Some ancient Italian maxim fits our situation, whose particulars escape me.
    Wolcott: Is the gist that I'm **** outta luck?
    EB: Did they speak that way then?

    The word "****" was said 43 times in the first hour of the show. It has been reported that the series had a total count of 2,980 "****s" and an average of 1.56 utterances of "****" per minute of footage"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,201 ✭✭✭languagenerd


    fryup wrote: »
    did any of you ever watch the western series Deadwood

    they have cowboys cursing all the time.........but surely the F word didn't exist back in those days??

    i always thought it came about after WW1 after the "fokker" aircraft ?

    No, the word "fuck" has existed for centuries - it was first noted in a poem from 1475! It mightn't have always been considered as offensive and it fell out of use for a while, but it's not a recent invention by any means.

    (It probably wasn't used by cowboys, in fairness...)


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