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mahoney_j · 18-09-2013 04:22PM

delaval wrote: »

Should I chance 25 unit N in last week of Sept?

I would as your farm was very dry ,has got rain this week and weather is to heat up next week,if teas me I'd go with a bag of can on the first 30% of ground you'll be grazing first next February.growth should be quite strong for next 2 weeks plus I reckon.you would proab get a gr of 50 to 60 I reckon.go now though.

delaval · 18-09-2013 04:46PM

mahoney_j wrote: »

I would as your farm was very dry ,has got rain this week and weather is to heat up next week,if teas me I'd go with a bag of can on the first 30% of ground you'll be grazing first next February.growth should be quite strong for next 2 weeks plus I reckon.you would proab get a gr of 50 to 60 I reckon.go now though.

Exactly what I was thinking. As a trial I was thinking 40% of next Spring ground. I think I'll give it a lash. I often wasted Urea in Jan and Feb before what difference to waste in Sept if it doesn't work.
Would ye reckon much background N available??

case 956 · 18-09-2013 05:56PM

delaval wrote: »

Exactly what I was thinking. As a trial I was thinking 40% of next Spring ground. I think I'll give it a lash. I often wasted Urea in Jan and Feb before what difference to waste in Sept if it doesn't work.
Would ye reckon much background N available??

if teagasc or jack kenedy hear of you at this youl be blacklisted and laughing stock of the country:D:D

Milked out · 19-09-2013 08:19AM

delaval wrote: »

Exactly what I was thinking. As a trial I was thinking 40% of next Spring ground. I think I'll give it a lash. I often wasted Urea in Jan and Feb before what difference to waste in Sept if it doesn't work.
Would ye reckon much background N available??

Is there any way you can test the soil to tell if there is available nitrogen in it?? earlier in the year the discussion group near me reckoned that some of the nitrogen that was spread earlier in the spring was actually in the plant but as conditions weren't great for growth it was lost as the low covers were grazed. I know this was more in the context of fertilising the following silage crops but was jus wondering. Also if there was a warmer than normal winter would you be worried about covers getting too strong for a wet spring?? I guess better risk having too much than nothing at all

kevthegaff · 19-09-2013 08:22AM

39.97 c/litre Arrabawn yesterday 3.40p 3.77 fat

delaval · 19-09-2013 09:32AM

Milked out wrote: »

Is there any way you can test the soil to tell if there is available nitrogen in it?? earlier in the year the discussion group near me reckoned that some of the nitrogen that was spread earlier in the spring was actually in the plant but as conditions weren't great for growth it was lost as the low covers were grazed. I know this was more in the context of fertilising the following silage crops but was jus wondering. Also if there was a warmer than normal winter would you be worried about covers getting too strong for a wet spring?? I guess better risk having too much than nothing at all

It would need to be a very wet spring here!!!

bob charles · 19-09-2013 11:39AM

delaval wrote: »

Exactly what I was thinking. As a trial I was thinking 40% of next Spring ground. I think I'll give it a lash. I often wasted Urea in Jan and Feb before what difference to waste in Sept if it doesn't work.
Would ye reckon much background N available??

Fert now will on average give a better return for money than fert in Jan/feb I should think. Currently waiting for contractor to give everywhere 30-40unit of CAN. what sort of dosh are you lads parting with for CAN

bob charles · 19-09-2013 11:41AM

Milked out wrote: »

Also if there was a warmer than normal winter would you be worried about covers getting too strong for a wet spring?? I guess better risk having too much than nothing at all

It would be a big worry for me as our winters seem to be a bit warmer than other parts. Prefer to have grazed out pre christmas, blast with slurry the 15jan and aim to graze 1st of march. If weather comes right they can go out the 15th of feb

delaval · 19-09-2013 01:04PM

bob charles wrote: »

It would be a big worry for me as our winters seem to be a bit warmer than other parts. Prefer to have grazed out pre christmas, blast with slurry the 15jan and aim to graze 1st of march. If weather comes right they can go out the 15th of feb

1st of March, you'll be a laughing stock!!!

mahoney_j · 19-09-2013 01:32PM

bob charles wrote: »

Fert now will on average give a better return for money than fert in Jan/feb I should think. Currently waiting for contractor to give everywhere 30-40unit of CAN. what sort of dosh are you lads parting with for CAN

310 on account but cash buyer 300.18 6 12 good value at 410

td5man · 19-09-2013 02:28PM

prot 3.98 b fat 4.58 scc 153 getting nearly 45 cent litre . I think I need to buy oh some flowers and an eye patch.:);)

delaval · 19-09-2013 02:45PM

td5man wrote: »

prot 3.98 b fat 4.58 scc 153 getting nearly 45 cent litre . I think I need to buy oh some flowers and an eye patch.:);)

Great price. How are the new cows going?

td5man · 19-09-2013 03:03PM

delaval wrote: »

Great price. How are the new cows going?

Only a few of them calved , but so far looking good .
OH not too impressed with one, calved Tuesday night had milk fever Wednesday morning.
I went to get calcium from shed and oh decided to check to see if the cow was drawing on 4 spins while the cow was lying on her side :rolleyes:
Cow kicked connecting with oh's nose and eye, resulting in 12 hours in casualty (xrays ct scan etc.)

delaval · 19-09-2013 03:38PM

td5man wrote: »

Only a few of them calved , but so far looking good .
OH not too impressed with one, calved Tuesday night had milk fever Wednesday morning.
I went to get calcium from shed and oh decided to check to see if the cow was drawing on 4 spins while the cow was lying on her side :rolleyes:
Cow kicked connecting with oh's nose and eye, resulting in 12 hours in casualty (xrays ct scan etc.)

All ok I hope ?

td5man · 19-09-2013 04:14PM

Yes she came out to milk this morning with me she was lucky in fairness , she loves the farming .

stanflt · 19-09-2013 04:22PM

bob charles wrote: »

Fert now will on average give a better return for money than fert in Jan/feb I should think. Currently waiting for contractor to give everywhere 30-40unit of CAN. what sort of dosh are you lads parting with for CAN

284 30 days credit

delaval · 19-09-2013 04:46PM

stanflt wrote: »

284 30 days credit

Are you spreading, Stan?

stanflt · 19-09-2013 05:15PM

delaval wrote: »

Are you spreading, Stan?

yeah i havent stopped- 25units after each grazing

whelan1 · 19-09-2013 06:36PM

heard on local news glanbia are letting 30 people go from their drogheda plant

stanflt · 19-09-2013 07:01PM

whelan1 wrote: »

heard on local news glanbia are letting 30 people go from their drogheda plant

Sure they'll have less milk cause strath toy will be taking it

More money for my milk

whelan1 · 19-09-2013 07:05PM

stanflt wrote: »

Sure they'll have less milk cause strath toy will be taking it

More money for my milk

and mine, did you hear any more, is it the guys on the floor that are going, some great guys in farm services there.... had a glanbia sales rep here at dinner time and when i said it to him it was the first he had heard

stanflt · 19-09-2013 07:18PM

whelan1 wrote: »

and mine, did you hear any more, is it the guys on the floor that are going, some great guys in farm services there.... had a glanbia sales rep here at dinner time and when i said it to him it was the first he had heard

Yeah it's guys on the floor and packaging
129 employees in drogheda

No wonder there is no money in winter milk

whelan1 · 19-09-2013 07:19PM

stanflt wrote: »

Yeah it's guys on the floor and packaging
129 employees in drogheda

No wonder there is no money in winter milk

ye we had always said that, see how strathroy can process milk on skeleton staff , why cant glanbia do something similar?

Mulumpy · 19-09-2013 07:39PM

whelan1 wrote: »

ye we had always said that, see how strathroy can process milk on skeleton staff , why cant glanbia do something similar?

Where I work in Arrabawn we've only half the staff numbers since I started ten years ago and doing twice the work.

kevthegaff · 19-09-2013 08:36PM

Mulumpy wrote: »

Where I work in Arrabawn we've only half the staff numbers since I started ten years ago and doing twice the work.

That seem the way its going in all industry, cuts and long hours for employees. Dont know where it will end

Milked out · 19-09-2013 10:24PM

kevthegaff wrote: »

That seem the way its going in all industry, cuts and long hours for employees. Dont know where it will end

In a plant environment it will end with as many automated processes as possible

delaval · 20-09-2013 12:07AM

whelan1 wrote: »

heard on local news glanbia are letting 30 people go from their drogheda plant

All liquid plants will have redundancies from management to the floor.
Major overhaul of that business needed and starting in order to cut costs to compete

delaval · 20-09-2013 12:14AM

whelan1 wrote: »

ye we had always said that, see how strathroy can process milk on skeleton staff , why cant glanbia do something similar?

They are down here because they cannot buy milk in NI. They simply can't compete at the auction.

Quiet simply the supermarkets have destroyed the Uk milk business. They have not filled their quota for some years. Milk quota brought from the mainland and it increased NI's quota by 50%. Any surplus is dumped down here and causing all sorts of bother. 25% of all milk sold here is from milked dumped here from NI

It's a pity tht such a quality product is discounted to such an extent

delaval · 20-09-2013 12:26AM

whelan1 wrote: »

ye we had always said that, see how strathroy can process milk on skeleton staff , why cant glanbia do something similar?

Are you moving?

Farmer Pudsey · 20-09-2013 01:48AM

delaval wrote: »

Are you moving?

No Delaval neither would you and if I was in dairying neither would I. What Ms Whelan says is reality this is what the Irish Times lazy journalist fails to understand. Stratroy specialise in LM they have little or no other outlet( do not know anything about them but am surmising) so they are dumping. This happened last year with vegetables in this country, the UK supermarket over supplied and just dumped the surplass onto the Irish market

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