Rory McIlroy - 4 Time Major Winner

peepee · 13-09-2013 8:19am #1

So lads is it the Indian or the Arrow

Should he go back to Titleist?

ForeRight · 13-09-2013 8:55am

He had a 7 yesterday on the 1st hole par 4.
He had 120yds to the pin after his tee shot sitting in the fairway.

I don't think I've seen a 28 handicapper do that.
Disgraceful play

PARlance · 13-09-2013 9:43am

ForeRight wrote: »

He had a 7 yesterday on the 1st hole par 4.
He had 120yds to the pin after his tee shot sitting in the fairway.

I don't think I've seen a 28 handicapper do that.
Disgraceful play

We must get a round in..... I managed a 7 last weekend from a cracking drive that left me 100 yards to the pin....

OP, I don't think it's a case of just putting it down to the arrows.
The arrows themselves would have taken a while to get used to, and if that was all he had to deal with, then I think he would have gotten that well sorted by now.

ForeRight · 13-09-2013 9:59am

AJ no bother any time.

I heard an amazing stat last night about Rory by the lads on sky

In first round putting he is 150th

In second round putting he is 1st

Can anyone explain that to me??????

chuckyarelaw · 13-09-2013 10:03am

ForeRight wrote: »

AJ no bother any time.

I heard an amazing stat last night about Rory by the lads on sky

In first round putting he is 150th

In second round putting he is 1st

Can anyone explain that to me??????

150th - not as bad as 151st, but not as good as 149th.

1st - better than everyone else.

CAL

gramar · 13-09-2013 10:06am

Definitely the Indian. He's had a lot of off the course distractions. He was a superstar in the media before he was a superstar on the course and he was seriously affected by it. Huge deal with Nike and winning a few majors attracts serious pressure and expectation. Then there's the break up and a high profile girlfriend, new clubs, new agent, new house in the US, the Olympics tug of war. He's a young man and even though he mightn't admit it he's affected. It's not just brought him back to average golf but he in most rounds he's playing very badly. Take yesterday, he's 15 shots off the lead after just one day.

peepee · 13-09-2013 10:27am

I haven't seen much analysis/criticism of his swing (well compared to what they do constantly with Tiger, say Chamblee etc). Is there something there? Or is it everything? Meaning his head/nerves/focus/tempo.

Dbu · 13-09-2013 11:13am

I think its more to do with 'off field' activity than clubs
A year back playing full time on the Euro tour may help him, but alas that wont happen as not enough off field cash to be made over this side of the pond

gorfield · 13-09-2013 11:21am

His total driving in 2013 (42nd) has been better than it was in 2012 (54th). And his 2013 GIR and 2012 GIR are virtually identical, his scrambling went from 33rd in 2012 to 150 in 2013. Which seems like a better area of his game to put the blame rather than his driver.

Looks clear-cut to me, is it this obvious to him?
Rotella needed to imho.

GS11 · 13-09-2013 11:23am

Somehow he let the whole "new Clubs" thing get inside his head. Likewise when u look at the putting stat they had last night, its all in his head.

shamrock55 · 13-09-2013 11:41am

I think the new clubs thing was just a handy excuse for him tbh

Dbu · 13-09-2013 11:48am

shamrock55 wrote: »

I think the new clubs thing was just a handy excuse for him tbh

To be fair he does not make an issue out of the clubs,
I reckon he should never have left Chubby, his dad and all his buddies seems to have too much influence on the direction his career is taking.

peepee · 13-09-2013 11:52am

His total driving in 2013 (42nd) has been better than it was in 2012 (54th). And his 2013 GIR and 2012 GIR are virtually identical, his scrambling went from 33rd in 2012 to 150 in 2013. Which seems like a better area of his game to put the blame rather than his driver.

Looks clear-cut to me, is it this obvious to him?
Rotella needed to imho.

Thats seems clear cut! I remember watching the PGA last year and he needed to scramble very well at times on the last day. Obviously he pulled away well at the end but without his A short game it wouldn't have been so easy.

hades · 13-09-2013 12:05pm

gorfield wrote: »

his scrambling went from 33rd in 2012 to 150 in 2013. Which seems like a better area of his game to put the blame rather than his driver.

I bet he misses his home in NI now, with the fancy short game area.

ssbob · 13-09-2013 12:40pm

Its definitely a curious situation, there is a legal battle going on behind the scenes aswell over the split from the management company.

Maybe a 6/8 week period at the end of the season to sort everything out and begin next year raring to go might be the best for him.

His next goal really should be making sure he is ready both mentally and physically for next years Masters.

DuckHook · 13-09-2013 12:55pm

Dbu wrote: »

To be fair he does not make an issue out of the clubs,
I reckon he should never have left Chubby, his dad and all his buddies seems to have too much influence on the direction his career is taking.

His form was much better after leaving chandlers stable though so i dont see how that has hurt his career.

PRAF · 13-09-2013 1:04pm

I've heard alot of potential excuses for his poor form this year - new clubs, not enough practice, too much pressure, off course problems, loss of confidence, etc.. It's likely to be a combination of all of those factors. However, he is too good to be down for long and I'm looking forward to his return to form. Hopefully he gets on a hot streak before the year is out

2013 has been a bit of a difficult year for Irish touring pros. Not a single major between Rors, GMAC, PH, & Clarke. The natives are getting restless. Hopefully Lowry will be the next of them to win a big one.

realgolfgeek · 13-09-2013 1:18pm

I can see Rory slipping down the rankings and I personally don't think he's going to ever perform to the consistency and excellence we saw before.

Almaviva · 13-09-2013 1:19pm

PRAF wrote: »

2013 has been a bit of a difficult year for Irish touring pros. Not a single major between Rors, GMAC, PH, & Clarke.

Like it. Worth reading a second time to enjoy it (and I dont just mean the straight-faced slipping in of the PH !). Remember when any one island of Ireland golfer winning any golf tourny in a year was considered a good year?

newport2 · 13-09-2013 1:27pm

Definitely not the clubs. I'd say they're identical with a Nike stamp on them. Also, Jack Nichlaus made the point that in his day he had to play with several sets of clubs due to different sponsers in Europe/US etc, and regularly had to change clubs. Never altered his form. He said it was nothing to do with the clubs and that McIlroy could pretty much play to the same standard with any set fitted for him.

Heard rumours about off course stuff that sounds like an awful position for him to be in if it they're true. If they are, I'd say they're a large factor. So let's go with off-course events.

Almaviva · 13-09-2013 1:31pm

newport2 wrote: »

Heard rumours about off course stuff that sounds like an awful position for him to be in if it they're true.

?

Dolph Starbeam · 13-09-2013 1:55pm

Dbu wrote: »

I think its more to do with 'off field' activity than clubs
A year back playing full time on the Euro tour may help him, but alas that wont happen as not enough off field cash to be made over this side of the pond

Not really, its not that much easier on the European Tour, and sure Rory even missed the cut at the Irish Open.

I wouldn't be Rorys biggest fan, superb golfer but I don't like his attitude. He needs to forget this year and start fresh next year. He could learn a thing or 2 from Adam Scott. Scott was similar that he had the world at his feet at a young age but got distracted by stuff off the course, model girlfriends, cars, houses etc.

PRAF · 13-09-2013 3:27pm

YayaBanana wrote: »

Not really, its not that much easier on the European Tour, and sure Rory even missed the cut at the Irish Open.

I wouldn't be Rorys biggest fan, superb golfer but I don't like his attitude. He needs to forget this year and start fresh next year. He could learn a thing or 2 from Adam Scott. Scott was similar that he had the world at his feet at a young age but got distracted by stuff off the course, model girlfriends, cars, houses etc.

You know you have it good when money, model girlfriends, cars and houses are considered to be a problem

RonnieL · 13-09-2013 4:07pm

I'm going off Rory - I like to see him do well, but his attitude is definitely a little off, and the olympics saga is just annoying at this stage.

For me, one of the main problems with Rory seems to be his inability to minimise the damage when he's having an off day, and his disinterest when he's not in contention.

The wozilroy situation doesn't seem to be helping either, for either of them. Wasn't she world number 1 when they started going out? For me, it just seems like neither of them are that pushed about getting knocked out of tournaments earlier, because it just frees them up to jump on a flight and join the other one. I'm obviously basing that on very little, but it's what I think!

DellyBelly · 13-09-2013 4:10pm

Heard rumours about off course stuff that sounds like an awful position for him to be in if it they're true. If they are, I'd say they're a large factor. So let's go with off-course events.[/QUOTE]

I've heard about those rumours as well and if true I think it must be the reason his form is so poor...

GS11 · 13-09-2013 4:25pm

Dbu wrote: »

To be fair he does not make an issue out of the clubs,
I reckon he should never have left Chubby, his dad and all his buddies seems to have too much influence on the direction his career is taking.

He doesn't now but he did intially, he had all sorts of problems trying to get the driver right and the putter.

PRAF · 13-09-2013 4:43pm

While I don't think it is the biggest problem for Rory, I do think that changing all of his equipment at the same time was a mistake. Changing either your irons, woods, wedges, or ball shouldn't be a problem. Changing them all at the same time????

Rikand · 13-09-2013 4:46pm

Can we get full details of this "off-course" stuff that everyone is rumoured to have heard ?

Miley Byrne · 13-09-2013 5:15pm

Rickylovesuall wrote: »

Can we get full details of this "off-course" stuff that everyone is rumoured to have heard ?

Not in a public forum I'd say Ricky. Just to be on the safe side. But if it's the same rumour that I've heard then it's not actually about Rory. More someone close to him.

BraveDonut · 13-09-2013 5:16pm

ForeRight wrote: »

AJ no bother any time.

I heard an amazing stat last night about Rory by the lads on sky

In first round putting he is 150th

In second round putting he is 1st

Can anyone explain that to me??????

Maybe he sobers up on the 2nd day?

Rikand · 13-09-2013 5:27pm

denisoc16 wrote: »

Not in a public forum I'd say Ricky. Just to be on the safe side. But if it's the same rumour that I've heard then it's not actually about Rory. More someone close to him.

You're right. I just hqte not being in the know

Im in the know now though! Thanks private peoples xxxx

PARlance · 13-09-2013 6:06pm

Anyone else hear that Nike have cancelled his contract?

BIG EDIT: A mate was taking the p1ss with a text

Gin77 · 13-09-2013 6:47pm

I wonder is Paul Mcguinley worried about his fourm for the Ryder cup? He can't not pick him or can he?

Almaviva · 13-09-2013 7:41pm

Gin77 wrote: »

I wonder is Paul Mcguinley worried about his fourm for the Ryder cup? He can't not pick him or can he?

He can indeed not pick him. And shouldnt unless he improves dramatically. If it were on this year he would have been mad to pick him. But he would still make it on world ranking at the moment. That will disappear if the current form continues next year.

Eoinyh · 13-09-2013 8:28pm

I heard them rumours too, really really shocked, " Rory Mcilroy is getting lessons off Padraig Harrington

SnowDrifts · 13-09-2013 9:02pm

Such a shame to see him last at 13 over at the BMW right now. He won this this time last year and was at the top of his game.

tayto lover · 13-09-2013 9:29pm

I think his problem is this --

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QLSwGvotas

Creasy_bear · 13-09-2013 11:32pm

tayto lover wrote: »

I think his problem is this --

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QLSwGvotas

Yes, God forbid he might actually have a life away from golf.

charlieIRL · 13-09-2013 11:35pm

we're not going to spread rumours around here now are we?!

John Divney · 14-09-2013 1:43am

Thing called love alright $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Almaviva · 13-10-2013 9:21pm

Spilt #2 looks a done deal.

Clean start for Rory now and back to winning ways next year.

http://www.independent.ie/woman/celeb-news/rory-mcilroy-tells-devastated-caroline-the-relationship-is-over-29655621.html

PhlegmyMoses · 13-10-2013 10:18pm

Keeping a relationship going is probably tough as a professional sports star as you're away for work 80/90% of your time. Now make it two professional sports stars and it'll be almost impossible.

Hopefully he can get his head straight next year and win another major. I actually quite like him and there's also the fact that he's a wonderful golfer to watch when he's flying.

SnowDrifts · 13-10-2013 10:40pm

I tend not take with a pinch of salt articles written with only anonymous sources. Also... Rory is going to spend up to 2 months in Asia? Really? I doubt it.

Keano · 14-10-2013 1:39pm

SnowDrifts wrote: »

I tend not take with a pinch of salt articles written with only anonymous sources. Also... Rory is going to spend up to 2 months in Asia? Really? I doubt it.

They breakup has been talked about for ages but he is in China for nearly 2 months. Playing two events and then an exhibition with Tiger

Finlay Harp · 14-10-2013 1:55pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-24521543

More distractions!

realgolfgeek · 14-10-2013 2:02pm

Finlay Harp wrote: »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-24521543

More distractions!

It is believed the golfer views the fees charged by Horizon - said to be 7.5m euros (£6.4m) over an 18 month period - as excessive.

Surely he didn't sign up to Horizon NOT knowing what fees had to be paid !!
Alot more to this story which we don't know me thinks !

SnowDrifts · 14-10-2013 2:10pm

Keano A Legend wrote: »

They breakup has been talked about for ages but he is in China for nearly 2 months. Playing two events and then an exhibition with Tiger

Yeah i knew he was playing the exhibition and some events but presumed he would fly back to Europe/US in between. 2 months seems excessive.

Dbu · 14-10-2013 3:14pm

statement from Horizon, sounds like this could drag on for a while

"Horizon Sports Management (“Horizon”) notes with disappointment Rory McIlroy’s decision to initiate legal action seeking to terminate his representation contract," the statement read.

"Since October 2011, under Horizon’s management, Rory McIlroy has signed some of the most lucrative endorsement contracts in sports history, in addition to achieving significant success on the golf course. Today, he is one of the world’s most highly remunerated sports people.

"In March 2013, he signed an extension to his representation contract up to 2017. Rory McIlroy has now announced that his business interests will be managed by Rory McIlroy Incorporated. As a consequence, he is in breach of the representation contract, into which he willingly entered.

"This legal action seeks to void his representation contract from its original date, recover fees already paid and avoid paying any further fees as stipulated by the agreement.

"Regrettably, this legal action has been taken despite Horizon’s efforts to reach an orderly and fair resolution.

"The claim will be defended vigorously and comprehensively in legal process.

"Horizon has confidence in its position. This confidence is underpinned by a legally binding contract and the clear evidence of the exceptional job done for Rory McIlroy by Horizon.

"We will always be proud of what Rory McIlroy and Horizon achieved together and we wish him well in his future golf career."

FixdePitchmark · 14-10-2013 3:19pm

You hear cases like this with Boxers and Rock stars over many years . Getting done over (as claimed)
But it is a very short time to claim costs were excessive.
He only signed with them. Youd imagine he had somebody go over contracts.
Unusual this one.

Again . said it a while back. He just doesn't play enough golf for me. Way too young to be hanging around with Bono and Bill. Win everything for ten years then wind it back.
Ok he has stuff going on . Some out of his control. His life has turned upside down in 2 years. Not easy.
But thd difference with most lads his age in sport. (Top guys).
They are totally involved and in sport. Maybe Rory is a new refreshing type who like balance. That is interesting. But at what stage is the ballance wrong. When your in Dublin for Arthurs day arguing over a contract you signed and in the papers more in living than sport.

Nice lad but.

ssbob · 14-10-2013 3:31pm

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

You hear cases like this with Boxers and Rock stars over many years . Getting done over (as claimed)
But it is a very short time to claim costs were excessive.
He only signed with them. Youd imagine he had somebody go over contracts.
Unusual this one.

Who knows what went on but I guess the point of the management company is to manage your affairs so perhaps he didn't see the need to get someone to "Manage his management team", either way it seems this will all boil down to an out of court settlement!

Dbu · 14-10-2013 3:34pm

ssbob wrote: »

Who knows what went on but I guess the point of the management company is to manage your affairs so perhaps he didn't see the need to get someone to "Manage his management team", either way it seems this will all boil down to an out of court settlement!

'"Regrettably, this legal action has been taken despite Horizon’s efforts to reach an orderly and fair resolution."

think they tried that one ssbob, well horizon did anyway

Rory McIlroy - 4 Time Major Winner

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