Dublin GAA Discussion Thread - 2013

DazMarz · 10-09-2013 07:20PM

Great news about Daly. Delighted to see him staying on for another campaign anyway. Has done so much for Dublin hurling in the past few years. Dublin will be there or thereabouts next year again. This year will have been a tremendous boon to the whole team and will have been a great bit of experience for them.

Moneymaker · 11-09-2013 01:59PM

So how are we gonna line out lads? I think we'll be unchanged except for McMahon in for O'Brien. Not our best 15 imo but still a strong team and always have the lads off the bench to come in should they be required.

Stoner · 11-09-2013 02:26PM

I think it will be the same team as lined out against Kerry. Depending on who is having the most difficulty between Cooper and O Brien , McMahon will come in for.

Outside chance that Cullen will be in for Brennan.
Outside chance that A Brogan might come in for Kilkenny at some stage
same bench and subs to finish on the best team.

GK1001 · 11-09-2013 02:34PM

Moneymaker wrote: »

So how are we gonna line out lads? I think we'll be unchanged except for McMahon in for O'Brien. Not our best 15 imo but still a strong team and always have the lads off the bench to come in should they be required.

I reckon Gavin will go unchanged...Brennan probably should make way for COS and Bastick moving into the centre and you could make a case for Philly to come in (wouldn't do it myself - think he's a liability) and of course Rock...but I'd say Gavin's thinking now will be to address the tactical issues in the back line with the incumbents in the few weeks between games, safe in the knowledge that he has proven big impact changes he can make at anytime during the game that work...huge plus...lets say he makes the brennan change, would you be as confident if say Bastick or COS were getting cleaned out of seeing Ger come from the bench at half time or the other way round?...

I'd be happy to see an unchanged line-up next week:cool:

Stoner · 11-09-2013 02:39PM

GK1001 wrote: »

I reckon Gavin will go unchanged...Brennan probably should make way for COS and Bastick moving into the centre and you could make a case for Philly to come in (wouldn't do it myself - think he's a liability) and of course Rock...but I'd say Gavin's thinking now will be to address the tactical issues in the back line with the incumbents in the few weeks between games, safe in the knowledge that he has proven big impact changes he can make at anytime during the game that work...huge plus...lets say he makes the brennan change, would you be as confident if say Bastick or COS were getting cleaned out of seeing Ger come from the bench at half time or the other way round?...

I'd be happy to see an unchanged line-up next week:cool:

I think that's about right, so far its been about seeing whats wrong and having someone to come off the bench that will do a job. He might start Brennan and then change him if he is struggling. I'd rather see someone else come off the bench than Brennan.

bo-sco · 11-09-2013 03:11PM

So the logic is he's not good enough to come on so we'll start him instead.

Seems odd.

GK1001 · 11-09-2013 03:29PM

bo-sco wrote: »

So the logic is he's not good enough to come on so we'll start him instead.

Seems odd.

Nah, that's not what I'm trying to convey. Personally I think Brennan is better than COS would be at centre back on average. He can be excellent. But on form in the last two games, he's faded in the 2nd half in one and been taken to school in the other by the best Gaelic footballer to grace a field and who played to the height of his powers. It makes calls for his replacement viable and I'm sure they'll be put forward in the lead up.
What I am saying then, is that I think as an impact to a game that needs changing, a change such as Brennan off and Bastick on is better than Bastick/COS off and Brennan on. Reason being if the game is going south, and that is the area of the field we need to address then it's most likely that we are not winning primary ball or the breakdown and I think Bastick coming on is better in that situation. If Bastick and COS are having problems in the air and at the breakdown then seeing Brennan come on for either of them isn't an inspiring thought, to the point that if Brennan is dropped I think he'll only feature if we are ahead and need to see out the game.

I'll admit I can see reasons for both sides and it's not a disaster either way (we have an awesome team remember:D) but the more I think about it I'd lean towards going unchanged. It's a tough call to make, but that's what Gavin's there to do.

What are your thoughts anyway bo-sco? Who do you think should line up for us?

Dubliner28 · 11-09-2013 03:57PM

Cant see there being any changes to the previous starting line ups unless forced.
As with the semi final if players aren't pulling there weight he wont be afraid to change it.

Would love to see 3 changes but it wont happen. COS in for GB and Bastick in the middle(but he wouldn't last 55-60 mins) and Rock for Kilkenny.

copacetic · 11-09-2013 04:15PM

Brennan did a great job on O'Shea in the league when they put o'shea up on him as the big man to knock the smaller man around. Which was right up Gers alley and O'Shea hardly got in the game at all. Galvin will have a plan around the best setup to deal with Mayo rather than address issues from a game already gone. O'Brien took a knock to head early against Kerry and looked dizzy and unaware of what was going on until he came off. I would expect the same team that started against Kerry to start against Mayo. The only real debate would be whether to adjust up front for Paddy Andrews again, but they gelled well last time and the subs did there job so why mess with it? I wouldn't change midfield, Kerry's was supposed to be well on top but both MDMA and Cian should have got goals running away from them, they will look to do the same again.

GK1001 · 11-09-2013 04:26PM

copacetic wrote: »

Brennan did a great job on O'Shea in the league when they put o'shea up on him as the big man to knock the smaller man around. Which was right up Gers alley and O'Shea hardly got in the game at all. Galvin will have a plan around the best setup to deal with Mayo rather than address issues from a game already gone. O'Brien took a knock to head early against Kerry and looked dizzy and unaware of what was going on until he came off. I would expect the same team that started against Kerry to start against Mayo. The only real debate would be whether to adjust up front for Paddy Andrews again, but they gelled well last time and the subs did there job so why mess with it? I wouldn't change midfield, Kerry's was supposed to be well on top but both MDMA and Cian should have got goals running away from them, they will look to do the same again.

Cork even more so and that failed to transpire also, it's good that the O'Sheas will be seen as Mayo's big strength because I think that area is there for the taking and if we come out 50/50 or better we'll be well set up

bo-sco · 11-09-2013 05:47PM

GK1001 wrote: »

Nah, that's not what I'm trying to convey. Personally I think Brennan is better than COS would be at centre back on average. He can be excellent. But on form in the last two games, he's faded in the 2nd half in one and been taken to school in the other by the best Gaelic footballer to grace a field and who played to the height of his powers. It makes calls for his replacement viable and I'm sure they'll be put forward in the lead up.
What I am saying then, is that I think as an impact to a game that needs changing, a change such as Brennan off and Bastick on is better than Bastick/COS off and Brennan on. Reason being if the game is going south, and that is the area of the field we need to address then it's most likely that we are not winning primary ball or the breakdown and I think Bastick coming on is better in that situation. If Bastick and COS are having problems in the air and at the breakdown then seeing Brennan come on for either of them isn't an inspiring thought, to the point that if Brennan is dropped I think he'll only feature if we are ahead and need to see out the game.

I'll admit I can see reasons for both sides and it's not a disaster either way (we have an awesome team remember:D) but the more I think about it I'd lean towards going unchanged. It's a tough call to make, but that's what Gavin's there to do.

What are your thoughts anyway bo-sco? Who do you think should line up for us?

I wouldn't start Brennan but I've never liked him there so this is nothing new. As well as being too slow he's also a loose cannon and is liable to get himself sent off. In the absence of a better option I would start COS there and Bastick in the middle. Bastick won't last the 70 but the importance of bringing in a dedicated midfielder in his place with 20 minutes to go probably isn't as important at that stage when the game has become more open as it would be earlier in the game. Flynn could slot in there at that stage for example.

There might be better options but an All Ireland final is not the place to be trying them out.

Having said all that I would expect Ger to start.

copacetic · 11-09-2013 10:20PM

Delighted to see so much from Mayo 'fans' about the ref, little or no talk about the actual game or their team. illustrates a lack of belief and confidence looking for the excuses so early. Especially looking for them about a ref who helped them no end against us in the past.

Stoner · 12-09-2013 07:26AM

copacetic wrote: »

Delighted to see so much from Mayo 'fans' about the ref, little or no talk about the actual game or their team. illustrates a lack of belief and confidence looking for the excuses so early. Especially looking for them about a ref who helped them no end against us in the past.

It's not really the regular Mayo lads bringing it up, mainly the bandwagon elite. There was plenty of that from non regular Kerry posters before the last game too covering all possibilities beforehand.
If the official word is that the guy was never involved in AvB games for Dublin and people keep bringing it up then there's not much you can do about it I guess.

Stoner · 12-09-2013 07:37AM

copacetic wrote: »

Brennan did a great job on O'Shea in the league when they put o'shea up on him as the big man to knock the smaller man around. Which was right up Gers alley and O'Shea hardly got in the game at all. Galvin will have a plan around the best setup to deal with Mayo rather than address issues from a game already gone.

My memory of Brennan vs A O'Shea was different. I remember AOS breaking Brennans tackle and bursting through a good few times.
If COS and MDMA run at Mayo the way they did at kerry then the O'Sheas will have to track back with them, a o'shea looks dodgy tackling a runner from behind sometimes and he'll have to watch the yellow cards he could end up with one early in the game.
There is a good chance either Brennan or A o'shea will see red in this game IMO.

DARK-KNIGHT · 12-09-2013 07:43AM

copacetic wrote: »

Delighted to see so much from Mayo 'fans' about the ref, little or no talk about the actual game or their team. illustrates a lack of belief and confidence looking for the excuses so early. Especially looking for them about a ref who helped them no end against us in the past.

It doesn't illustrate anything you are presuming it does

Mcquillan is a Cavan man or a dub?

Is it actually true Mcquillans family were at AI final in 2011 in Dublin attire or is that just a lie?

The non regular mayo posters you will find drift in from after hours and comment away for something to do and to stir it here just ignore it lads I'm 100% sure regular mayo lads don't feel like that.

But if the story about Mcquillans family in Dublin attire is true it is one of the most stupid things mcquillan could allow wife and kids to do but also hilarious

DoctaDee · 12-09-2013 09:09AM

Any truth in the stated fact that McQuillan is married to a Mayo woman, and his mother also hails from Mayo ?? :rolleyes:

Paranoid Mandroid · 12-09-2013 11:09AM

Yeah he drives a blue ford fiesta and watches fair city. FFS lads.

On another note, I can't get through to the Dublin county board office. Does anyone know if all Parnell pass card holders need to be there to pick up their tickets next week (from tuesday I know) or can I give mine to someone to collect?

Gerlad · 12-09-2013 01:57PM

Paranoid Mandroid wrote: »

On another note, I can't get through to the Dublin county board office. Does anyone know if all Parnell pass card holders need to be there to pick up their tickets next week (from tuesday I know) or can I give mine to someone to collect?

Officially you're supposed to be there in person with ID but two years ago I was never asked for ID - just serial number and name on card. You do have up to Friday to collect your ticket but realise this may not be feasible for people not working/living in the area

El Horseboxo · 12-09-2013 06:49PM

Has anyone received their Parnell Park pass that ordered it after last Thursday (Sept 5th)? A friend ordered it the same night and he got his yesterday. Apparently nothing in the mail yet according to family. I'm in the US now.

copacetic · 12-09-2013 07:49PM

Stoner wrote: »

My memory of Brennan vs A O'Shea was different. I remember AOS breaking Brennans tackle and bursting through a good few times.
If COS and MDMA run at Mayo the way they did at kerry then the O'Sheas will have to track back with them, a o'shea looks dodgy tackling a runner from behind sometimes and he'll have to watch the yellow cards he could end up with one early in the game.
There is a good chance either Brennan or A o'shea will see red in this game IMO.

He got the upper hand a couple of times once on the ball, but he tried off the ball stuff on Brennan, lost out a couple of times, threw himself on the ground theatrically a few time and got on the wrong side of the ref totally. Was lucky to stay on that day, final ref would be even less likely to take action though.

Hank Schrader · 13-09-2013 09:23PM

El Horseboxo wrote: »

Has anyone received their Parnell Park pass that ordered it after last Thursday (Sept 5th)? A friend ordered it the same night and he got his yesterday. Apparently nothing in the mail yet according to family. I'm in the US now.

Went to the box office in Dorset st today and was reassured the last of the passes were posted 5.45 yesterday(12/09). So if you don't have one by Monday evening I would start to worry. If you have a receipt Ciaran at the BO will sort you out

P.S. You DO NOT have to collect ticket on Tuesday as posted all over the interweb. Tickets are available Tuesday through Friday

18-09-2013 03:54PM

DARK-KNIGHT wrote: »

It doesn't illustrate anything you are presuming it does

Mcquillan is a Cavan man or a dub?

Is it actually true Mcquillans family were at AI final in 2011 in Dublin attire or is that just a lie?

The non regular mayo posters you will find drift in from after hours and comment away for something to do and to stir it here just ignore it lads I'm 100% sure regular mayo lads don't feel like that.

But if the story about Mcquillans family in Dublin attire is true it is one of the most stupid things mcquillan could allow wife and kids to do but also hilarious

Please tell me you are joking..

McQuillan is a poor ref imo..

Sunnyisland · 18-09-2013 04:49PM

Wont be able to see or hear the match this sunday :-( But am hopefull/confident and praying that Dublin take home the Sam Maguire .Up the Dubs and good luck.

Dublinfan · 19-09-2013 04:17PM

Star seem to have the programme team will likely be changes but Sub Bench unlikely to change and Alan brogan on it..

Billy Mays · 19-09-2013 10:09PM

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Dublinfan wrote: »

Star seem to have the programme team will likely be changes but Sub Bench unlikely to change and Alan brogan on it..

That's just a made up "match programme" that was free with the Star today, nothing to do with the official match programme that will be on sale on Sunday. They've just put down the team they're speculating will start.

DazMarz · 20-09-2013 12:31AM

Have my ticket for the Hill for Sunday! Absolutely delighted... Was humming that "Golden Ticket" tune from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory all the way home!

And I think the nerves have finally hit me... at this moment of all time... Oh fúck... I don't think I'll be able to hold out until Sunday without exploding. Stomach is churning at the moment. Fúck sake. No sleep tonight, tomorrow or Saturday...

scatman carruthers · 20-09-2013 12:36AM

Im having a few stiff ones for the next two nights the butterfiles are flying out of my stomach im singing to myself 'get it up ye' , only 61 hours and 54mins to go

copacetic · 20-09-2013 08:55PM

So Philly comes in for O'Brien in only change, deserved for Philly but a bit unlucky for O'Brien. He got a heavy knock early against Kerry and wasn't right afterward. Philly has done well after some poor moments in first game as sub and like Ger he adds some serious physicality if it becomes required.

Otherwise I'm glad to see no changes, Ger performed well against Mayo twice already this year and they have a tendency to try and throw their weight around, which he will be able to nip it in the bud, allowing those around him to play.

Ace2007 · 20-09-2013 09:03PM

copacetic wrote: »

So Philly comes in for O'Brien in only change, deserved for Philly but a bit unlucky for O'Brien. He got a heavy knock early against Kerry and wasn't right afterward. Philly has done well after some poor moments in first game as sub and like Ger he adds some serious physicality if it becomes required.

Otherwise I'm glad to see no changes, Ger performed well against Mayo twice already this year and they have a tendency to try and throw their weight around, which he will be able to nip it in the bud, allowing those around him to play.

No word about the bench?

copacetic · 20-09-2013 09:04PM

Ace2007 wrote: »

No word about the bench?

Doesn't usually come out the same time as the team..

Dublin GAA Discussion Thread - 2013

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