Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14 Mod request post#5808

Morzadec wrote: »

Small sample so I expect this to come down a bit over time, but it just goes to show what a start he's made and how important he is. You could put your house on him being the Prem's top tackler again this year.

Here is his tackling Stats for the season he got injured .



This was after 33 games and Lucas only played 12 .

So I don't think those stats you have posted are far off the mark and it just goes to show how important he is to the team . He also came second in the tackling list for the 2012 - 13 season and he only came back in January Lucas Leiva Liverpool 123 .

Charlie19 wrote: »

Re Garcia

Didn't realize he scored so many crackers, remembered the one against Juve alright but i initially thought all his goals came about from being in the right place at right time, the one scored against Norwich was a peach.

Wouldn't have thought he frustrated so many of you on here.

The amount of time he easily gave the ball away was infuriating at times. I think maybe it was just a concentration thing. Somebody picked him in there team of the decade a year or two ago.

I am pie wrote: »

For me Garcia was one of our most frustrating performers, he scored some imoirtant goals but he was frequently anonymous. I have absolutely no doubt that on potential Coutinho is a better prospect. He has had better performances in a Liverpool shirt than Garcia ever did. Garcia drifted in and out of games, he was nowhere near "legendary" status..Coutinho will,I am certain, surpass him. Never a big Garcia fan.

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

Was going to reply, but you've pretty much hit the nail on the... errr head.

Have a lot of time for Luis for what he did in our run to winning the CL and how well he speaks about us still, but my god did he give me fits of rage with the most erratic (being kind) of moments of play I've seen from any single player to have played for the club. Certainly in the last decade or so.

Sooo....frustrating Garcia could be anonymous but scored vital goal after vital goal for a number of years.


Coutinho who can be anonymous, people have decided is on a different level to Garcia after 6 months.

Fair enough, I am a little more cautious than that though. I also tend to rate actual contributions over potential a bit more!

Its not about having some sort of dementia about Garcia's performances - its just about rating what is/was tangible over what could be.

Lazio president Claudio Lotito has confirmed he was interested in signing Fabio Borini and has explained why deals for Burak Yilmaz and Fabio Quagliarella failed to materialise.

Lotito was keen to add a striker to Lazio's squad before Monday's transfer deadline and considered a move for former Roma forward Borini.

However, Borini ended up joining Sunderland on a season-long loan after Lotito claimed Liverpool did not want to sell the 22-year-old.

"His name was under consideration, but Liverpool didn't want to sell him outright and they preferred to keep him in the Premiership," Lotito told Corriere dello Sport.

Grayditch wrote: »

We should have backup for Lucas. We really, really should.

Toure?

PRAF wrote: »

Agree with you, Hendo could end up being Mr Versatile for us. A modern day Ronnie Whelan perhaps. He's got the attributes to play in mulitple different positions including RB, RWB, CM, AM, etc. A great option to have in the squad.

Ronnie was some player for us

Got a laugh out of this.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130901104418AAl70vc

daithijjj wrote: »

unless he reaches that form and sustains it for longer periods that we saw when Kenny came in to the end of that season.

I think he can regain that form because the biggest thing after his injury is he willing to stick his foot in again . To me he is very willing and I believe he will get back to his best . I mean to be out for aslong as he was with such a serious injury he has shown to mental strenght needed to regain his form .

I really liked Garcia as I said, but I think comparing him to Coutinho is a bit silly imo. From what I've seen so far, Coutinho can be a world beater. He's still young and needs to add consistency to his game and if he can do that he'll be world class imo. Garcia had the odd flashes of brilliance and could score goals that I think Coutinho can't. However he'll only ever be a cult hero.

smileyj1987 wrote: »

I think he can regain that form because the biggest thing after his injury is he willing to stick his foot in again . To me he is very willing and I believe he will get back to his best . I mean to be out for aslong as he was with such a serious injury he has shown to mental strenght needed to regain his form .

Tackling isnt the issue really, he will give the effort no doubt but he was playing much better in possession of the ball than he is now.

daithijjj wrote: »

Tackling isnt the issue really, he will give the effort no doubt but he was playing much better in possession of the ball than he is now.

It was never his strongest point, but I recall listening to an ex player on about a serious injury, (can't remember who it was) saying how there's a moment in a game where the player goes in for a 50/50 tackle, aces it and no longer is nervy about straining the injury. It's a psychological thing.

The best example I can think of is Karl Lacey for Donegal during the Summer, came back, got another injury, wasn't the same both times. It needs to be managed by the player and medical team, I'd say the Summer break was a big benefit to Lucas. I've seen signs in the last couple of games that he is trying to be more creative, that was something he was doing before the injuries, developing his game into not just being a DM.