Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14 Mod request post#5808

dfx-

Well well well, top of the league..

old thread here

Washington Irving

I win.

McSasquatch

That wallpaper has to go for a start.

Chucky the tree

I'd rather excellent squad depth than one or two great 11 players and the rest ****. I'd much rather what we did this summer than sign Ozil and keep carragher. We lost the battle for 4th last season because our defense was gash, not because we couldn't score. Skrtel **** up vs city at home, Rein'as **** up away, Benteke bullying our defenders at home, Lukaku doing it home and Long doing it away, Jones and Walters bullying us a stoke on boxing day, falling to pieces at Southampton. There are certainly games we could/should have scored in but we were let down by are defence far more than our attack.

Grayditch

Can't believe we signed Suarez at 11 o clock. Savage.

K-9

Our year.

BMJD

#ouryear

Devilman40k

Shiny new thread.... !! and 7th just like the pool!!

livinginkorea

Lads seriously the 1970s decor???

livinginkorea

Grayditch wrote: »

Can't believe we signed Suarez at 11 o clock. Savage.

All the way from Uruguay too!

Devilman40k

livinginkorea wrote: »

All the way from Uruguay too!

2 marquee signings in one window...:pac:

MarkY91

very excited to see moses make his debut against swansea. agger and skrtel played well enough to start so i dont think we will see sakho then

K-9

livinginkorea wrote:

I agree mostly...I think we should never have a world class player for long because look at what is happening with Suarez...no CL and then someone will come knocking. I don't want that every time - thinking how can we replace him, he's cost us 20-30 goals a season.

I must rather a well-driven team of above average players who work well together so that we are never stuck for options if other clubs come calling. I think it makes good marketing sense too which is what the board are all about now.

We just aren't in a position, as much as we'd all love to be, to spend £35 Million on one player, unless Suarez goes. Our crap record at signings up till January should show that, some of us have some notion that we are still in Rafa days, we just need 1 big signing!

billymitchell wrote:

Still no idea what you are trying to say in this post

Yeah, was pretty cryptic!

livinginkorea

K-9 wrote: »

We just aren't in a position, as much as we'd all love to be, to spend £35 Million on one player, unless Suarez goes. Our crap record at signings up till January should show that, some of us have some notion that we are still in Rafa days, we just need 1 big signing!



Yeah, was pretty cryptic!

Right and the days of one perfect dream signing are long gone anyway...too much of a risk for us. I don't think BR is that stupid. Look at what happened to Kenny and Roy. BR may be many things but he's no fool.

Nuri Sahin

It's so shiny and bright the new thread. It burns my eyes!

livinginkorea

I have to admit that I do love the free signings and loans...makes it feel like we get something for nothing.

Super-Rush

Top of the feckin league.

Nuri Sahin

I'm at the imposter part of the United thread (8977) , jaysus lads, wow is all I can say lol.

smileyj1987

Net Spend , Net Spend , Net Spend .

Jason Todd

Everything's shiny capt'n

K-9

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

I'm at the imposter part of the United thread (8977) , jaysus lads, wow is all I can say lol.

Haven't gone near it in a few days, must be up there with Carroll and Torres day.

As good an addition Ozil will be the fact remains that Arsenal didn't get Suarez so now have a goal difference of -60.

wonderfullife

All in all a pretty tremendous few weeks for LFC.

Top of the league. 9 points. 3 clean sheets.

Ok that means fcuk all right now after 3 games but look at the next 6 league fixtures:

Swansea (A)
Southampton (H)
Sunderland (A)
Palace (H)
Newcastle (A)
West Brom (H)

I'm not trying to be overly optimistic or pessimistic but there is a very realistic chance Liverpool will still be top after that period. All of those games fall under the "winnable" column. And in the resilient mood the players/manager are in, i wouldn't bet against a seriously good run right now.

Then you throw in recent transfer dealings:

Suarez - stayed
Ilori - In
Sakho - In
Moses - In
Borini - Out
Assaidi - Out

That's a pretty stellar list - nobody can grumble with any of those decisions. All good, all positive.

In terms of other sides:

Man Utd: Butchered transfer window. Kept Rooney. Signed Fellaini. Lost SAF. Lost David Gill. Despite being champions, you'd have to argue they've effectively stood still whilst rivals strengthened.

Arsenal: Ozil. Who lets face it is basically sex on a football pitch. He's different gravy. The problems for them begin if Giroud gets injured. It'll be all peachy for a while though they will steamroller teams with that existing first XI + magic mesut.

Spurs: Bale out, plenty in. But they'll take time to gel too. Pretty rigid, unimaginative performances in all 3 games and couldnt breach the Gunners defence. Expect them to really come good later in season though.

City: New coach, some top signings, some dead wood cleared out. But again work in progress integrating and honestly not only did Cardiff beat them but Hull absolutely mullered them for an hour without scoring.

Chelsea: Spin it any which way, they made their key signing with Mourinho. Willian and the rest are bonuses. They'll be right up there.


In truth, the more you look at it, the more you see 5 sides who could contend for honours this year. Confidence is a huge thing in football and the fixture list has panned out in a way that Liverpool may well be top or in the top 2 after 9 games and that is infectious.

At the end of last season i would have argued Liverpool for 5th at best. But Rodgers is really starting to show his pedigree now i see no reason why this season can't be an insanely positive one for the club. That means going into Xmas and well into February still contending in the league.

smileyj1987

I hope to see plenty more of this over the next 35 premier league games .

Paulegend

Deleted User wrote: »

As good an addition Ozil will be the fact remains that Arsenal didn't get Suarez so now have a goal difference of -60.

Chucky the tree

I'll be very surprised if we beat Swansea away tbh. I also never enjoy playin Sunderland away.

Knex*

Probable starting XI when Rodgers got the job.

Reina

Johnson--Skrtel--Agger--Enrique

Lucas

Gerrard--Adam

Downing--Suarez--Maxi

Carroll

Now you can look at the transfers and sub in and out the players for the starting XI when window closes.

In: Allen, Assaidi, Borini and Sahin.

Out: Aurelio, Maxi, Kuyt, Bellamy, Aqualani, Carroll, Spearing.

By January:

In: Sturridge, Coutinho

Out: Cole

A lot of argument on here about whether or not the squad was strengthened or weakened last summer, but by the end of the year there was no doubt that we were much better off.

Got rid of much of the dead weight and had signed promising players in January and things starting to gel.

Personally, I think we've improved the squad and starting XI more in this window than we have done in a hell of a long time. Ground work was done in the last two, and we continued shifting out the bad value players such as Downing this summer and getting the right style of player in.

Starting XI has come on a fair bit since when Rodgers took over. Think its fair to say there was a lot of misconception with regards to players ability on paper and actual ability on the pitch. Thankfully, Rodgers seems to be adept at spotting this and is quick to replace the culprits. Skrtel, Reina, Downing and Carroll have all seen this to varying extents.
We've a better mentality too because of it. Bringing in the likes of Toure and Mignolet helps that, and we are seemingly a lot more consistent. Lets hope that upward trend continues.

Mignolet

Johnson--Toure--Sakho--Enrique

Lucas--Gerrard

Coutinho

Suarez--Sturridge--Moses

I know I didn't post any subs in the above formations, but goes without saying we have a far stronger bench now than what we have had in some time, maybe predating Rafa.

We also have a very, very young squad and have bought strongly with a view to the future in the vast majority of our players. Only Toure & Aspas have come in under Rodgers that will be over 30 in in 5 years.

FSG have, in fairness to them, helped steady the sinking ship that we were and build a solid platform to progress from.

What we need now is to see further investment in January (DM/CM please!), and to see a top WF to come in next summer.

I think we're not massively behind the likes of Spurs and Arsenal now after the last few windows, but we do have some way to go, being realistic. As I said in an earlier post, some hard work and a bit of luck and come January we will be still in with a shout of CL and can add a signing or two to push us on.

Post is long and a bit all over the place, so my apologies.

darced

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Paulegend

Chucky the tree wrote: »

I'll be very surprised if we beat Swansea away tbh. I also never enjoy playin Sunderland away.

suarez will be back for sunderland though:D

Charlie19

I love new threads me

wonderfullife

Chucky the tree wrote: »

I'll be very surprised if we beat Swansea away tbh. I also never enjoy playin Sunderland away.

swanseas home league form has been pretty poor, not only the spanking Man U dished out, wasn't fantastic at the end of last season either.

It also cant be overstated how bad sunderland have been lately under diCanio. Absolute manure.

I seriously see 6 points there.

More to the point this Liverpool side with the confidence they have right now, probably see 6 points there too.

Chucky the tree

We should now be in a position though to buy quality players next year because we won't need to add much to our squad.

Chucky the tree

wonderfullife wrote: »

swanseas home league form has been pretty poor, not only the spanking Man U dished out, wasn't fantastic at the end of last season either.

It also cant be overstated how bad sunderland have been lately under diCanio. Absolute manure.

I seriously see 6 points there.

More to the point this Liverpool side with the confidence they have right now, probably see 6 points there too.

Reading were pretty shocking last season as well, that didn't help us much when we played them though.

Knex*

Chucky the tree wrote: »

We should now be in a position though to buy quality players next year because we won't need to add much to our squad.

My thoughts too, and tbh, I think it should be demanded of FSG to do so.

No point putting in the work of the last two windows and not go out and capitalise on it in the next few.

SM01

Thought this was quite funny ( On phone so can't embed)

K-9

Chucky the tree wrote: »

We should now be in a position though to buy quality players next year because we won't need to add much to our squad.

Getting about a 60% success rate is doing very, very well. You'll get Borini's and Assaidi's.

Allen, Borini, Assaidi, Sturridge and Coutinho, not there yet at all. Summer signings are way too early to tell, but look pretty decent.

Charlie19

MarkY91 wrote: »

very excited to see moses make his debut against swansea. agger and skrtel played well enough to start so i dont think we will see sakho then

I do agree but I'd find it very hard to leave out a fit Toure. Big decisions ahead for Rodgers in the defense and where to play Suarez when eligible, I'd probably slot him in instead of Aspas.

I am pie

Mwwuaahahahhaaaha..no, no..hehe, hhaaaaahahaaaha, cant..stop...mwaahhahahaaaa...laughing.

Hello, we are Manchester United and we'd like to sign Herrera pls....mwuhahhssahaaa. Fcking imposters. Love it.

~Rebel~

You know it's a good free transfer when you find it hard to drop him, despite having a 23 year old "marquee" french international, and a chap Barca just tried to sign.

Nuri Sahin

K-9 wrote: »

Haven't gone near it in a few days, must be up there with Carroll and Torres day.

Well worth a read if you need a laugh.

Candidates for Dunce/Dumbass/Drooler of the Year award, well known trolls and legit psychopaths even away from boards calling others trolls amuses me the most let alone their transfer **** ups.

simongurnick

Toure and Moses could really end up being shrewd business from the bargain bin.

woodyg

not a bad window in the end
some good players in and some not so good out
no injuries over the next 2 weeks would be nice

any word on Glen?

Suarez coming back should be interesting.
It will be like a new signing as i can see him being hungry to make a statement.
He will have played a couple of games for the national side so won't be as rusty as if missed all preseason

i'd take 5 wins from the next 6 i know it's a little ambitious but it's gettable.
that would put us on 24 points a target we didn't hit till must have been the end of December last season!

Nuri Sahin

@ Paulegend, please stop posting drivel in the Arsenal thread especially regarding Ozil. Cringe worthy stuff.

osnola ibax

Last thread ended on page 666, always thought Rodgers had a bit of a "please to meet you won't you guess my name" kind of vibe about him

Top of the league (note winky smiley face)

Paulegend

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

@ Paulegend, please stop posting drivel in the Arsenal thread especially regarding Ozil. Cringe worthy stuff.

wtf you on about???

cringe worthy stuff??

you are either really young or just are blinded by your not wanting to agree with someone else's opinion that isnt of the norm


as i said a billion times. i think Ozil is a great signing and a great player. i think he will go on to be player of the year material. i do think he will be a success.

but i also said that better players have failed to live up to their name. Kaka Shevechenko Torres Ronaldinho and Etoo(their moves to italy. albeit etoo second season was impressive). you also had veron Wiltord Aquillini Cissee. all players who came with huge names to their clubs and failed to live up to the hype

i was told that a player that plays for the worlds biggest club(arguablly) and plays for teh german national team cant fail

i said Kaka played for one of the biggest teams in europe and the brazilian nationla team and he failed at madrid. to the degree he left on a free transfer yesterday.......................


how is what im saying in any way cringeworthy or stupid??? to disagree with me your doing it for the sake of it!!!! im merely pointing out the fact that big transfers dont always "HAVE to work out"

Dickerty

Paulegend wrote: »

but i also said that better players have failed to live up to their name. Kaka Shevechenko Torres Ronaldinho and Etoo(their moves to italy. albeit etoo second season was impressive). you also had veron Wiltord Aquillini Cissee. all players who came with huge names to their clubs and failed to live up to the hype

You know you spelt 3 of those 8 players wrong. This is not a good start when trying to get people on board with your arguments.

Also, if this is about Ozil, keep it in the Arsenal thread please.

wonderfullife

Paulegend wrote: »

wtf you on about???

cringe worthy stuff??

you are either really young or just are blinded by your not wanting to agree with someone else's opinion that isnt of the norm


as i said a billion times. i think Ozil is a great signing and a great player. i think he will go on to be player of the year material. i do think he will be a success.

but i also said that better players have failed to live up to their name. Kaka Shevechenko Torres Ronaldinho and Etoo(their moves to italy. albeit etoo second season was impressive). you also had veron Wiltord Aquillini Cissee. all players who came with huge names to their clubs and failed to live up to the hype

i was told that a player that plays for the worlds biggest club(arguablly) and plays for teh german national team cant fail

i said Kaka played for one of the biggest teams in england and the brazilian nationla team and he failed at madrid. to the degree he left on a free transfer yesterday.......................


how is what im saying in any way cringeworthy or stupid??? to disagree with me your doing it for the sake of it!!!! im merely pointing out the fact that big transfers dont always "HAVE to work out"

you speak the truth my friend. Big name transfers can fail. Veron didn't pull up too many trees at Utd. Crespo ditto chelsea. Kaka. etc etc

However.....lol.....Mesut Ozil being a MASSIVE success at Arsenal is the football equivalent of Ireland being shafted by the IMF. Certain to happen! He's too good, too suited to their style, to fail.

Also thought it was mildly LOL that Utd fans broke boards last night. In an accidental Denial of Service attack, posting so much. Had a little chuckle, sums up their lack of creative options in midfield!!

whatawaster

If Johnson is out for long I guess Toure will be our new right back

Paulegend

Dickerty wrote: »

You know you spelt 3 of those 8 players wrong. This is not a good start when trying to get people on board with your arguments.

Also, if this is about Ozil, keep it in the Arsenal thread please.

ok first of all who cares if i spelt 3 of them wrong??

nobody in the world can spell shevshenko without the power of google and since i couldnt be arsed as the spelling isnt related to the arguement(plus teh fact im on the phone so cant as easily jump back and forward from google):o...................... people mis-spell simpilar words on here and their point isnt regarded as drivel just because someone doesnt like what they say

people just attacked what i said and told me im talking sh#t. now i get that arsenal fans want to be happy about the signing and they should be im not taking away from that. i was in a conversation with one lad saying that yes he is a class player and i hope it works out.............. then it developed into a full blown warzone where people on here start calling me on it


also it is about zil but the reason im mentioning it on here is because

Nuri Sahin - @ Paulegend, please stop posting drivel in the Arsenal thread especially regarding Ozil. Cringe worthy stuff.

surely i have the right to retort to someone trying to talk down to me and look like the big man.

seems to be this on going group mentality on here these days

ThunbergsAreGo

whatawaster wrote: »

If Johnson is out for long I guess Toure will be our new right back

Was thinking about this on the way in and our now almost embarresment of riches at CB.

Wouldnt be unhappy with this (makes the 5m he cost me in FF look better as well!)

Jason Todd

whatawaster wrote: »

If Johnson is out for long I guess Toure will be our new right back

That'll do pig... that'll do.