Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14 Mod request post#5808

gafferino · 03-09-2013 09:56PM

rarnes1 wrote: »

Lets not get carried away just yet!

Was thinking the exact same.......we have taken many baby steps in the last year or so and there is many many many more to go before we see our team where we want it to be.
Rodgers has to get us CL before my cap will be off ( although I think he is doing a pretty good job so far.....more of the same please).

osnola ibax · 03-09-2013 09:57PM

rarnes1 wrote: »

Lets not get carried away just yet!

He's a tough man aswell and he's clearly immediately ambitious. He's seems like a guy who's constantly learning from previous experiences / mistakes. I like him that's all, I like what he's doing and he also brings a stability that's Nen missing for a few years. I have a really good feeling about him.

Nuri Sahin · 03-09-2013 10:02PM

Rafa has proven himself at multiple clubs and at the highest level in club football.

Rodgers hasn't.

Rodgers has shown signs of being potentially being one of the better coaches/managers, but he still has a long way to go and I'm sure he'd be the first one to say similar.

mike65 · 03-09-2013 10:03PM

gafferino wrote: »

When was the last time Liverpool won 5 games in a row? I think it's very ambitious to say we should win all these and as someone (Rarnes?) said earlier we did this last year and just fell flat. Not too many teams win 5 matches in a row in this league.
If we got 10 points about of these and had 19 points out of 24 I would be delighted with that to be honest as I think most teams would be.

Just did it (okay its split over two season!), the last time within the season was 25/04/09-24/05/09

Nuri Sahin · 03-09-2013 10:05PM

aramush wrote: »

Funny how not so long ago people wanted Rodgers gone, now they want to give him a new contract!

And after we lose a game or two, they will want him gone again.

Who?

gafferino wrote: »

When was the last time Liverpool won 5 games in a row? I think it's very ambitious to say we should win all these and as someone (Rarnes?) said earlier we did this last year and just fell flat. Not too many teams win 5 matches in a row in this league.
If we got 10 points about of these and had 19 points out of 24 I would be delighted with that to be honest as I think most teams would be.

10 points should be the aim alright, anything beyond that is a bonus.

mav79 · 03-09-2013 10:05PM

Don't know if it was mentioned since the match on Sunday, but it was great to see Sturridge celebrate with Rogers. Shows a good bond between the players and management.

~Rebel~ · 03-09-2013 10:14PM

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

10 points should be the aim alright, anything beyond that is a bonus.

Agreed, any projection of more than 1 game, we should just be looking at double the points to the number of games played. Obviously that gives us 2 points per game, which is the standard we should be aspiring to, to be in a great position of landing 4th (76 points).

Currently 3 points ahead of the curve, which is nice

DrumSteve · 03-09-2013 10:17PM

Really looking forward to this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyK_yq0vkTE

~Rebel~ · 03-09-2013 10:19PM

Oh, also great to at no stage this window be worried about overpriced Brits. Not one Brit acquired (not really counting Ilori or Moses who consider themselves Portuguese and Nigerian), and only paid for one of the three recruits from other British clubs.

Fizman · 03-09-2013 10:21PM

Damien Camolli was just on SSN for all the fans out there interested!

redzerdrog · 03-09-2013 10:22PM

anything other than 16 points from those games is unacceptable

gafferino · 03-09-2013 10:25PM

DrumSteve wrote: »

Really looking forward to this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyK_yq0vkTE

Ha.....but WTF!

gafferino · 03-09-2013 10:30PM

mike65 wrote: »

Just did it (okay its split over two season!), the last time within the season was 25/04/09-24/05/09

Exactly. And that was with a quality, experienced team where the manager was in place 5 years and Liverpool were enroute to their best league finish in 20 years.
We should be realistic about our expectations.

Nuri Sahin · 03-09-2013 10:35PM

Not sure if it was mentioned, but Wisdom has been awarded the captaincy for the England U21 side.

Nuri Sahin · 03-09-2013 10:36PM

Also...

Brendan Rodgers plans to give Luis Suárez a wide berth at Liverpool

• Suárez will return on the wing after 10-match ban
• Sturridge will stay as main striker with Coutinho behind

Liverpool's manager, Brendan Rodgers, has decided Luis Suárez will operate out wide when he returns from a 10-match ban, with Daniel Sturridge immovable as Liverpool's front-line striker.

Suárez has two matches left to serve of his suspension for biting the Chelsea defender Branislav Ivanovic and will make his return in the Capital One Cup clash at Manchester United on 25 September. But he is expected to feature on the flanks for Liverpool, with Philippe Coutinho moving into the centre behind the lone striker, as Rodgers leaves Sturridge to continue his devastating early-season form for Liverpool.

The England international has scored five goals in four Liverpool victories so far this season, the latest coming in Sunday's 1-0 defeat of Manchester United. Combined with Suárez's protracted efforts to move from Anfield this summer, the Liverpool manager believes the Uruguay international must force his way back as the focal point of the team's attack and that Sturridge is established in his position. The new loan signing from Chelsea, Victor Moses, is expected to operate on the opposite wing to Suárez once the striker returns from his suspension.

Rodgers, meanwhile, has maintained that Fabio Borini has a future at Anfield despite allowing the Italian forward to join Sunderland on a season-long loan. Borini was Rodgers' first signing as Liverpool manager, in a £10.5m deal from Roma, but struggled for form and with injuries last season.

The Liverpool manager explained: "He had a stop-start season last year with his injuries and I just felt this year he needed to go and play football. With Daniel Sturridge, Luis Suárez, Iago Aspas and some of the other attacking players, that might have been limited.

"I have a real belief in Fabio – he is a talent and we've seen that on occasions, but he needs to be playing regularly to demonstrate that talent. We had a host of clubs wanting to take him, but with Sunderland having the Italian connection there and being a big club where he can go and play, I'm sure he'll get the chance to shine and we'll look closely at his development this year."

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/sep/03/brendan-rodgers-luis-suarez-liverpool

Hopefully it's..

Moses - Sturridge - Suarez

- - - - - Coutinho - - - - -

aramush · 03-09-2013 10:37PM

Oh, hello.

K-9 · 03-09-2013 10:39PM

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Agreed, any projection of more than 1 game, we should just be looking at double the points to the number of games played. Obviously that gives us 2 points per game, which is the standard we should be aspiring to, to be in a great position of landing 4th (76 points).

Currently 3 points ahead of the curve, which is nice

Is there a 15 point / 25% improvement in the team?

The most important thing is to cut out the times we conceded 3 goals, 4 times last season, a few less 0-0 and 1-1 draws and we'd be well on the way. With Toure and Sakho we should be more physical at the back and Sakho improves the aerial presence, we'd the second worse last season, only Wigan was worse IIRC.

When you look at the form in the last half of the season (yep, I know the drawbacks), the additions to the squad and the start to the season it really should be a matter of how much the improvement is, we'd a 1.89 ppg average then.

Courtesy Flush · 03-09-2013 10:39PM

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

Rafa has proven himself at multiple clubs and at the highest level in club football.

Rodgers hasn't.

Rodgers has shown signs of being potentially being one of the better coaches/managers, but he still has a long way to go and I'm sure he'd be the first one to say similar.

Rodgers is also only 40 years old. I think he can be potentially one of the great managers and I hope we can hold onto him

aramush · 03-09-2013 10:40PM

Surely Rodgers will get manager of the month and Sturridge player?

klose · 03-09-2013 10:43PM

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

Also...

Hopefully it's..

Moses - Sturridge - Suarez

- - - - - Coutinho - - - - -

This news pleases me

03-09-2013 10:44PM

redzerdrog wrote: »

anything other than 16 points from those games is unacceptable

From 6 games?

Do that and we're in a title challenge and that's happening!

On paper yes, they look nice enough.

In reality we'll lose our first, draw our 2nd. Meltdown will then ensue and there'll be rumblings about relegation.

mada999 · 03-09-2013 10:46PM

haha

03-09-2013 10:47PM

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

Also...

Hopefully it's..

Moses - Sturridge - Suarez

- - - - - Coutinho - - - - -

I'd give Coutinho a breather after Sunday. He was shocking. Leave Henderson in and play the same front 3 as you.

I think that as a front 4 offers no protection to our slow midfield and it's a disaster waiting to happen.

Saying that on a good day it could hammer teams.

spockety · 03-09-2013 10:49PM

rarnes1 wrote: »

From 6 games?

Do that and we're in a title challenge and that's happening!

On paper yes, they look nice enough.

In reality we'll lose our first, draw our 2nd. Meltdown will then ensue and there'll be rumblings about relegation.

Perhaps not relegation talk, but the thread is going to be an unreal sight when we drop our first points...

Grayditch · 03-09-2013 10:49PM

So many factors can come into it. Player form, good/bad decisions, injuries. Other teams in powerful form, bad defensive error resulting in a draw. I don't know how the last one hasn't happened yet (bar Notts County), but yeah, I'm a superstitious person, I can never count my chickens before they hatch.

Pilsbury Doughboy · 03-09-2013 10:51PM

redzerdrog wrote: »

anything other than 16 points from those games is unacceptable

I'm not looking to start a row, so can I politely ask what this post is all about?

What do you mean by unacceptable, are you just being overly dramatic or will there be consequences if we don't get 16 pts from those games?

You're expecting way too much too soon, like many others I think ye're are all getting carried away a tiny bit, relax, take one game at a time, we're not world beaters all of a sudden, we won't be steamrollering teams, 16 pts would be a brilliant return imo certainly not the bare minimum as you're alluding to.

Question Redzer, you must think we're nailed on for top 4? if you expect those streaks of results, that'd be us on for the title at that rate.

Chucky the tree · 03-09-2013 10:59PM

rarnes1 wrote: »

I'd give Coutinho a breather after Sunday. He was shocking. Leave Henderson in and play the same front 3 as you.

I think that as a front 4 offers no protection to our slow midfield and it's a disaster waiting to happen.

Saying that on a good day it could hammer teams.

Has he been picked for the Internationals? I would have thought not so should get a good rest because of that.

whatawaster · 03-09-2013 11:02PM

rarnes1 wrote: »

I'd give Coutinho a breather after Sunday. He was shocking. Leave Henderson in and play the same front 3 as you.

I think that as a front 4 offers no protection to our slow midfield and it's a disaster waiting to happen.

Saying that on a good day it could hammer teams.

Coutinho has two weeks off

In any case, Sunday was not the kind of game he was going to shine in. The front players were starved and isolated.

We have just made a great start to the season. It's not time to start resting our most creative player.

smileyj1987 · 03-09-2013 11:09PM

rarnes1 wrote: »

I'd give Coutinho a breather after Sunday. He was shocking. Leave Henderson in and play the same front 3 as you.

I think that as a front 4 offers no protection to our slow midfield and it's a disaster waiting to happen.

Saying that on a good day it could hammer teams.

I would honestly leave Coutinho in the team . This is his season as a marked man in terms of players will be chopping him down . So he will draw fouls and hopefully we can get some decent free kick opportunities . Our midfield might slow but it doesn't mean they aren't effective . Steven Gerrard has really began to shine in his new role and Lucas does what he does best by giving away silly fouls to break up danger .

messinkiapina · 03-09-2013 11:14PM

The Kolo worship is quite funny, in a good way. I don't think I've ever seen a footballer become such a fans favourite after just 3 games. I think it was the shower pic that endeared him to so many!

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