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Over paid/Under paid professions and people

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭Specialun


    gowley wrote: »
    try working your full shift rather than half of it like you stated in previous posts. no wonder the health system is f@cked when there are people like you working in it boasting about only working 6 hours in a 12 hour shift along with two of your family in the same hospital you refuse to name.



    Whats it like up there on that high horse of yours..hope you feed him well


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,687 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    People in the parasitic financial 'services' doing everything in their power to avoid the free market.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,731 ✭✭✭✭entropi


    The people who say that professional sportspeople are overpaid, not all of them are. Getting to that level means you are on a very strict timetable, fitness and dietary routine, there's not much room for anything else since they won't be allowed to have much of a social life. They might as well earn what they can, while they can and spend it when retired/in further education at 35+.

    Very overpaid = TDs and ministers.

    Underpaid = emergency service personnel.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,478 ✭✭✭wexie


    Specialun wrote: »
    Well spotted sherlock but do u wish to elaborate.what poo (see what idid there) is cleaned up

    Lets just say that in my experience what gets sold doesn't necessarily always match up with the customers expectations, the customers requirements, support guidelines or indeed the laws of physics.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 629 ✭✭✭gowley


    darced wrote: »
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    by some and others do their jobs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭Specialun


    wexie wrote: »
    Lets just say that in my experience what gets sold doesn't necessarily always match up with the customers expectations, the customers requirements, support guidelines or indeed the laws of physics.


    I see.but surely if a DM signs off on the solution/product they should know what they are actually signing off on...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,428 ✭✭✭Talib Fiasco


    Teachers should be on everyone's underpaid list.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 629 ✭✭✭gowley


    darced wrote: »
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    you stated in a previous post you all worked in the same hospital. make up your mind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭NapoleonInRags


    Teachers should be on everyone's underpaid list.


    Whatever about teachers, school secretaries are criminally underpaid for what they do.

    Broadcasters are overpaid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭Specialun


    Teachers are underpaid????


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,478 ✭✭✭wexie


    Specialun wrote: »
    I see.but surely if a DM signs off on the solution/product they should know what they are actually signing off on...

    Not quite sure what you mean by DM as it's not an abbreviation I'm familiar with.

    But yes, in theory they 'should' be aware just as in theory the 'solution' should be fit for purpose.

    In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    Overpaid: Marketing executives.

    Underpaid: Scientists of most disciplines.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,598 ✭✭✭boomkatalog


    My friend is a psychiatric nurse and I work in childcare.

    We both work for fcuk all, and compare stories about the sh1t that's thrown at us at work. Literally...

    I earn so little taking care of other people's kids that It'll be a long time before I can afford to have any of my own. /remembers to go take pill


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,478 ✭✭✭wexie


    My friend is a psychiatric nurse and I work in childcare.

    We both work for fcuk all, and compare stories about the sh1t that's thrown at us at work. Literally...

    I earn so little taking care of other people's kids that It'll be a long time before I can afford to have any of my own. /remembers to go take pill

    I'd say between the 2 of your stories you may not want any kids anytime soon?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 175 ✭✭tosspot15


    I knew a nurse who worked in a large dublin emergency department. The things I have heard are just gobsmacking. Every single day she got abused, threatened, yelled at, the waiting room was constant chaos, fighting, gardai being called, she even got a gun pulled on her and got a wack of the gardai's pepper spray by mistake in a scuffle.
    I also know a pediatric nurse who gets abuse daily from scumbag children and parents, and when she corrects the 8 year old child telling her to "fúck off ya dumb bítch" the parents just laugh.

    Another story I heard was from somebody working in the ambulance service who got called to a regular abuser of the 999 system. Alcoholic, druggy type person. While they were bringing him to hospital, he assaulted and beat the living **** out of the female paramedic in the back. Gardai were called....sorry no unit available nearby. This was in the countryside and there was nothing they could do about it other than try their best to deal with the situation.

    Junior doctors are over worked, on 40 hour shifts, paid less than fast food workers, a huge amount of them are over stressed, suffering from depression and more. I hear the suicide rate and drug abuse rate amongst medical students is pretty damn high.

    Another person I know, a retained fire fighter (i.e he only gets payed per each call he gets). Called to a bad neighborhood to put out a bonfire. He gets tackled by a scumbag off his head and punched in the face several times putting him out of work. Every single week in Ireland, fire trucks get the **** stoned out of them, broken windows, and items stolen. Its not just halloween.

    All of the above dont spend several years in university learning the systems of the human body in great detail, all the drugs associated with their scope of practice, signs and symptoms of specific diseases, and things like advanced cardiac life support and how to read ECG's etc just to become "pillow puffers".

    Maybe a handfull of lazy nurses working in nursing homes for abled-elderly people sit around drinking tea all day, but I can assure you, the vast majority dont.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,598 ✭✭✭boomkatalog


    wexie wrote: »
    I'd say between the 2 of your stories you may not want any kids anytime soon?

    I wouldn't mind having them before I'm 30 but I'm not sure how much better my financial situation will be by then!

    My own kids will be angels anyway. Fcuking angels *taps wooden spoon*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 629 ✭✭✭gowley


    darced wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    I'd rather not say but I include the one I worked in and two others family members now work in,maybe its not the majority its just my experience that a 12 hour shift only includes about 6 hours actual work.

    Nurses do a good job by the way I'm not bashing them.


    oh i think you did


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,478 ✭✭✭wexie


    I wouldn't mind having them before I'm 30 but I'm not sure how much better my financial situation will be by then!

    My own kids will be angels anyway. Fcuking angels *taps wooden spoon*

    tis a sad state of affairs when the would be responsible parents aren't having kids because they don't think they can afford them and those that don't care....don't care :(

    But I guess that's a whole different thread


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,068 ✭✭✭Specialun


    wexie wrote: »
    Not quite sure what you mean by DM as it's not an abbreviation I'm familiar with.

    But yes, in theory they 'should' be aware just as in theory the 'solution' should be fit for purpose.

    In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is.


    Maybe for small IT products that might be so but for any product worth its salt or of value...yes at times a salesguy can oversell or upsell initially but to say if a decision maker is signing off on something he/she should know what is is..espcally as by law you do have x numbers of days grace


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    For all those on about HCAs and Nurses and the public sector.

    You do realise that HCAs and Nurses also work in the private sector and get paid alot less than their public sector colleagues, with the same work load and qualifications.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    Remember a guy on here called irishbob on here he loved nurses he did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,090 ✭✭✭questionmark?


    Underpaid: Runners/researchers on the Late Late Show
    Overpaid: The presenter

    Underpaid: Call centre staff for a bank
    Overpaid: The CEO of the bank

    The moral of the story is the higher you go in a business/profession the less work you do, the less abuse you take and the more you get paid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 613 ✭✭✭SeaDaily


    Underpaid: junior doctors


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 659 ✭✭✭Katunga


    underpaid: aircraft maintenance engineers.
    for a job that if you make a mistake it could result with hundreds of people death and life in prison. It's very underpaid given the risk and training involved.

    overpaid: soccer players


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,478 ✭✭✭wexie


    Specialun wrote: »
    Maybe for small IT products that might be so but for any product worth its salt or of value...yes at times a salesguy can oversell or upsell initially but to say if a decision maker is signing off on something he/she should know what is is..espcally as by law you do have x numbers of days grace

    I wouldn't know about small IT products, it's not really my area.

    It's not a problem of knowing what it is, it's a problem of not knowing what it does, what it can and can't do and how it's supposed to be doing it.

    All good and well knowing you're getting 8 of product X if you've no idea of whether or not that will fit your requirements, work with your existing environment, can be migrated onto etc. etc. etc.

    Anyways, I'd much rather not get into a long session on solution design here.
    Suffice it to say I've met a lot of IT sales people that were, are and continue to be grossly overpaid.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 26,424 Mod ✭✭✭✭Peregrine


    Both my mother and brother are nurses. And like 5 cousins..hundreds of other friends.

    After hearing the stories, watching them work and seeing them come home after a 13 hour shift dreading the next day for all of my life, I can honestly say I wouldn't do that job for love nor money.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


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